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Spoken like someone that has never had sex
The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.
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FEETLOAF
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Johan Schmidt
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> Sees post that says women are behaving stupidly and irrationally.
> Immediately begins reee'ing and making gendered insults.
Kek.
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Johan Schmidt
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> So what you're saying is.
> *Pops birth control despite being single.*
> You saying.
> *Buys cats*
> You're saying women have to take responsibility for their actions?
> *Is alone at 45*
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This thread is an excellent honeypot for incels
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> This thread is an excellent honeypot for incels.
This thread is an excellent example of why women ruin societies when they're in charge. Kek.
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Johan Schmidt
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I will have sex with my bf as much as I want to and then use birth control to avoid taking responsibility for my actions.
NOBODY CAN STOP ME!
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Johan Schmidt
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Tch.
That's what you think kiddo.
I think it's time someone aborted your slutty ways, you can't even conceive of the myriad methods maligned men like me can use to destroy bitches like you. I'll cut your tubes so fine that the wound will be the width of a single hair follicle. I can land over a hundred clitical hits in a single trimestical second! You won't even see me coming (since it'll be through a hole in a bedsheet like mormon god intended) for you and your equally slutty boyfriend.
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Giving birth is actually way more dangerous than an abortion carried out by supervised medical professionals. In fact in the US it's 11 times safer to have an abortion than give birth. Giving birth can absolutely damage you physically and psychologically, that's a big factor in why many women choose abortion.
Also fun fact, married women get abortions. Marital status is irrelevant to the need for abortion
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IIRC the mortality rate for UK abortions is like 0.7; whereas the mortality rate for pregnancy in the UK is like 13.5? It's been a while since I did a module that actually featured abortion.
Objectively more births are done than abortions (something like 24% of pregnancies overall and 40% of unplanned pregnancies end with the baby getting assasinated Hitman style by the doctor); so there likely is a skew from that in terms of effects on data. Home births, unplanned labours, too young, etc, etc, etc. But abortion is pretty safe for the mother in the moment of it occurring. It's not pleasant, but no medical procedure is ever really pleasant. (Unless you're a massive gay slut and are into the proctological exam, or you have a really hunky and really innaproptiate gyno. I guess).
There's probably an effect of the actual procedure being easily plannable, routine, and done by doctors with all their equipment there 99% of the time; whereas births can't be accurately tied down to a single preplanned moment, which can skew the data.
13.5 is pretty low compared to the other big killers of women, like cars, heart disease, stroke, motorbikes...their partners...their ex partners...
ahem.
I can't be arsed to google long term affects of abortive treatments, but realistically anything that causes the body to have a reaction that it wouldn't normally be having (and sometimes would normally be having) probably isn't great for you. But neither is taking birth control for too long, neither is not taking birth control for too long, or not having kids, or having kids. Long term implications of treatments only readily available for less than a hundred years are pretty fucky to look into ngl. Safe bet is 'not good' but we haven't had any evidence that it's actively bad taught to us so far. Which we'd need to be clinicians as you have to let patients know risks of shit.
Obviously the death rate rises and falls depending on circumstance for pregnancy. Sarah, age 13, victim of systemic family rape by her five uncles is going to have a much harder time giving birth safely in her trailer than Rachel age 29 in a hospital the moment her contractions hit, with a highly trained, well paid medical team to watch over her. Rachel would have to actively try to end up dead, whereas Sarah could sneeze wrong and tear her insides apart.
But yeah. Pregnancy isn't a picnic. Humans are shittlily put together animals that evolution selected to live to about 40, then die when our sons murdered us to take over the tribe, or die at 30 after pushing out the eighth child in the mud.
Not an excuse to kill babies in my mind; but it is objectively safer on AVERAGE to get an abortion than it is to carry to term. Circumstances will change that average. I'm fine with just letting the upper middle classes breed though if that's what everyone is getting at? I hate niggers, pakis, coons, wogs, jigaboos, abos, etc, etc. I have no issue with sterilising them early on. Same for the welfare leeches. SHit, i'd do it myself if they wouldn't revoke my - yet to be obtained - credentials for biomedical sciences. Hell, kight drag the deaht rate down if you do that as well. Sheboons have a hard time squirting our their pavement ape babies without it turning them inside out. Save a life, sterilise a baboon. ha.
Objectively more births are done than abortions (something like 24% of pregnancies overall and 40% of unplanned pregnancies end with the baby getting assasinated Hitman style by the doctor); so there likely is a skew from that in terms of effects on data. Home births, unplanned labours, too young, etc, etc, etc. But abortion is pretty safe for the mother in the moment of it occurring. It's not pleasant, but no medical procedure is ever really pleasant. (Unless you're a massive gay slut and are into the proctological exam, or you have a really hunky and really innaproptiate gyno. I guess).
There's probably an effect of the actual procedure being easily plannable, routine, and done by doctors with all their equipment there 99% of the time; whereas births can't be accurately tied down to a single preplanned moment, which can skew the data.
13.5 is pretty low compared to the other big killers of women, like cars, heart disease, stroke, motorbikes...their partners...their ex partners...
ahem.
I can't be arsed to google long term affects of abortive treatments, but realistically anything that causes the body to have a reaction that it wouldn't normally be having (and sometimes would normally be having) probably isn't great for you. But neither is taking birth control for too long, neither is not taking birth control for too long, or not having kids, or having kids. Long term implications of treatments only readily available for less than a hundred years are pretty fucky to look into ngl. Safe bet is 'not good' but we haven't had any evidence that it's actively bad taught to us so far. Which we'd need to be clinicians as you have to let patients know risks of shit.
Obviously the death rate rises and falls depending on circumstance for pregnancy. Sarah, age 13, victim of systemic family rape by her five uncles is going to have a much harder time giving birth safely in her trailer than Rachel age 29 in a hospital the moment her contractions hit, with a highly trained, well paid medical team to watch over her. Rachel would have to actively try to end up dead, whereas Sarah could sneeze wrong and tear her insides apart.
But yeah. Pregnancy isn't a picnic. Humans are shittlily put together animals that evolution selected to live to about 40, then die when our sons murdered us to take over the tribe, or die at 30 after pushing out the eighth child in the mud.
Not an excuse to kill babies in my mind; but it is objectively safer on AVERAGE to get an abortion than it is to carry to term. Circumstances will change that average. I'm fine with just letting the upper middle classes breed though if that's what everyone is getting at? I hate niggers, pakis, coons, wogs, jigaboos, abos, etc, etc. I have no issue with sterilising them early on. Same for the welfare leeches. SHit, i'd do it myself if they wouldn't revoke my - yet to be obtained - credentials for biomedical sciences. Hell, kight drag the deaht rate down if you do that as well. Sheboons have a hard time squirting our their pavement ape babies without it turning them inside out. Save a life, sterilise a baboon. ha.
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POlus all the up stuff I already wrote, of the deaths that a study we looked at; 5.3% of women dying in the first 9-12 months post birth was due to suicide, likely caused by post and perinatal depression. Your hormonal system can get you doing some weird shit. When my mates girlfriend was up the duff she ate nothing but like ice for the last four months of it, always crying and being all upset, and then being super happy seconds later. Eve after the kid was born she was super bouncy in terms of moodp either she was sunshine, or she was eyeing up the shotgun.
Crazy stuff.
EDIT Also you think if yhey're married and have already got the kids they want, the man would have the decency to at least get the snip, or cheat on his wife if she's a cold fuish.
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me me me me me me me.
It's pretty funny that you couldn't even explain what you think I got wrong. Pretty obvious I had it exactly accurate.
You rather have these childish back and forths than just explaining what I got wrong.
How can I walk away with any other conclusion than I got things 100% accurate? It literally wouldn't have taken more time either than posting these messages, so the "I don't care" attitude doesn't work either, because it's not believable when you keep posting.
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H aha what the fuck. Libya and the UK have the same pregnancy mortality rate, what the fuck cUKistan.
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No.
I already discussed it seriously but you were only interested in distorting my words for a cheap gotcha. So you were rightfully mocked. Just like the rest of your kind in this thread are for doing the same shit.
Fuck off.
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Pretty sure the US is even higher, I know the US has the highest rate of maternal mortality of any developed country.
Johan Schmidt
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Yeah, US is higher than the UK. US is roughly 13, UK is roughly 9.