- Joined
- Aug 2, 2020
My attitude regarding trans people in the mid 2010s before I peaked in 2020 was one of "live and let live". I believed that the majority of them were just trying to live their life comfortably without hassle to themselves or anyone else and any of the obnoxious ones were a teeny minority who did not represent every trans-identifying person. I never really thought much of it until 2020, when I went down the rabbit hole of peak trans.
However, I always thought that the vocal trans activists like Riley J Dennis were rapey, odious creeps and the fact that they pressured gay people into having sex with trans people really irritated me. There were tons of articles telling gay men and lesbians that not wanting to have sex with trans people made them "transphobic" and how "TERFS" who disagreed with trans talking points were the spawn of evil. While I agreed with "TERFS" that sex was immutable, I thought they were unfairly prejudiced and unsympathetic towards trans people, who I believed were misunderstood and harshly judged. I even bought into a lot of truscum junk science like the girl/boy brain myth and how trans women were just as valid as "cis" women. It didn't matter if trans people were "gay" or "straight", in my eyes they were still valid and if you had told me about autogynephilia five years ago, I would've called you a transphobe and defended trannies to the bitter end. But nevertheless, I didn't really concern myself with the whole trans vs TERF debate until a few years later. Mind you, I never actually knew any trans people in real life then.
I've never bought into the idea of more than two genders from the very beginning either, even when I was a teen when this genderspecial bullshit started back in 2014-2016. I remember first hearing about the term "nonbinary" on an online forum, with an obviously female user using nonbinary pronouns (they/them). I felt extremely confused and did not understand. To make matters worse, the woke admins would not bother to explain and instead were harassing users who questioned gender ideology and why she used "they/them" pronouns.
This "nonbinary" user was a real piece of work. She demanded "You HAVE to respect me and use my pronouns." and while I tried my best to comply, it really bugged the hell out of me. You aren't entitled to force people to use your made up pronouns and if you want to be treated that way, don't make it your entire identity. I told a forum admin that I felt like it was just another fad and didn't make sense. They responded with, "Well, back then they thought being gay was a mental disorder/attention seeking too!" and although I didn't have a good response, I would've responded with, "But being homosexual is proven and biological, thus homo"sex"ual, not homo"gender"al. There's proof that homosexual male and female brains are wired differently to their heterosexual counterparts." It was so disrespectful to the lesbians and gays who worked for equality as it minimizes their decades-long struggle only to be compared to attention seekers who think they're another special gender because they don't fit in a box.
2020 was the turning point for me. In said year, when I asked my university's LGBTQ+ society what were "TERFS" and why they were so "bad". The responses I received were poor, with explanations that they were "harming" transwomen by "reducing" women to their biology (I guess they never heard of the terms "womb-haver" or "bleeder") and that JK Rowling "could eat a sack of shit". Disatifisfied with the responses and lack of discourse, I decided to explore further by watching gender critical/trans sceptic videos until I came across the Kiwifarms. Thus, I fell down the rabbit hole on my journey to peaking trans.
I scrolled through videos on Youtube about the whole trans debate regarding sports and single sex spaces. I dedicated much of my time to heavy research about the trans subject on the internet as I couldn't really do anything else during the lockdown and everything was suspended. After extensive research, a realisation of how dangerous and unhinged trans ideology truly was hit me hard. During this time, I also learnt about one of my favourite teachers who was married and had grown children trooned out. This made me uncomfortable. To top it off, a creepy misogynist incel that I knew who everybody detested was now a tranny that was worshipped at the alter. I came to the realisation that a close one transitioning doesn't seem off putting until it happens to you.
Lurking on this site and finally joining only to be exposed to how so many of these deviants use the trans identity to be disgusting, pervy scumbags was what finally peaked me. Stories that I've never heard of before 2020 like the nonce Johnathan Yaniv sexually harassing women and children and using his trans identity to deflect from his behaviour, endless receipts of troons haranguing gay people for not being attracted to them, the trans movement hijacking and kicking out the OG gays and lesbians from gay rights organisations, what autogynephilia was, that autogynephiles made up the vast majority of trans women, and troon athletes such as Rhys McKinnon who were cheating in womens' sports were what lead me to peak trans on the Kiwifarms. While I should've lurked more before Kiwifarms, my views of trannies went from neutral to lukewarm, and finally downright abysmal in the span of two months. All I can say is is that I'm grateful I discovered the website that showed me how gross troons truly are. I would've been in the dark about the whole trans issue if it wasn't for this place.
However, I always thought that the vocal trans activists like Riley J Dennis were rapey, odious creeps and the fact that they pressured gay people into having sex with trans people really irritated me. There were tons of articles telling gay men and lesbians that not wanting to have sex with trans people made them "transphobic" and how "TERFS" who disagreed with trans talking points were the spawn of evil. While I agreed with "TERFS" that sex was immutable, I thought they were unfairly prejudiced and unsympathetic towards trans people, who I believed were misunderstood and harshly judged. I even bought into a lot of truscum junk science like the girl/boy brain myth and how trans women were just as valid as "cis" women. It didn't matter if trans people were "gay" or "straight", in my eyes they were still valid and if you had told me about autogynephilia five years ago, I would've called you a transphobe and defended trannies to the bitter end. But nevertheless, I didn't really concern myself with the whole trans vs TERF debate until a few years later. Mind you, I never actually knew any trans people in real life then.
I've never bought into the idea of more than two genders from the very beginning either, even when I was a teen when this genderspecial bullshit started back in 2014-2016. I remember first hearing about the term "nonbinary" on an online forum, with an obviously female user using nonbinary pronouns (they/them). I felt extremely confused and did not understand. To make matters worse, the woke admins would not bother to explain and instead were harassing users who questioned gender ideology and why she used "they/them" pronouns.
This "nonbinary" user was a real piece of work. She demanded "You HAVE to respect me and use my pronouns." and while I tried my best to comply, it really bugged the hell out of me. You aren't entitled to force people to use your made up pronouns and if you want to be treated that way, don't make it your entire identity. I told a forum admin that I felt like it was just another fad and didn't make sense. They responded with, "Well, back then they thought being gay was a mental disorder/attention seeking too!" and although I didn't have a good response, I would've responded with, "But being homosexual is proven and biological, thus homo"sex"ual, not homo"gender"al. There's proof that homosexual male and female brains are wired differently to their heterosexual counterparts." It was so disrespectful to the lesbians and gays who worked for equality as it minimizes their decades-long struggle only to be compared to attention seekers who think they're another special gender because they don't fit in a box.
2020 was the turning point for me. In said year, when I asked my university's LGBTQ+ society what were "TERFS" and why they were so "bad". The responses I received were poor, with explanations that they were "harming" transwomen by "reducing" women to their biology (I guess they never heard of the terms "womb-haver" or "bleeder") and that JK Rowling "could eat a sack of shit". Disatifisfied with the responses and lack of discourse, I decided to explore further by watching gender critical/trans sceptic videos until I came across the Kiwifarms. Thus, I fell down the rabbit hole on my journey to peaking trans.
I scrolled through videos on Youtube about the whole trans debate regarding sports and single sex spaces. I dedicated much of my time to heavy research about the trans subject on the internet as I couldn't really do anything else during the lockdown and everything was suspended. After extensive research, a realisation of how dangerous and unhinged trans ideology truly was hit me hard. During this time, I also learnt about one of my favourite teachers who was married and had grown children trooned out. This made me uncomfortable. To top it off, a creepy misogynist incel that I knew who everybody detested was now a tranny that was worshipped at the alter. I came to the realisation that a close one transitioning doesn't seem off putting until it happens to you.
Lurking on this site and finally joining only to be exposed to how so many of these deviants use the trans identity to be disgusting, pervy scumbags was what finally peaked me. Stories that I've never heard of before 2020 like the nonce Johnathan Yaniv sexually harassing women and children and using his trans identity to deflect from his behaviour, endless receipts of troons haranguing gay people for not being attracted to them, the trans movement hijacking and kicking out the OG gays and lesbians from gay rights organisations, what autogynephilia was, that autogynephiles made up the vast majority of trans women, and troon athletes such as Rhys McKinnon who were cheating in womens' sports were what lead me to peak trans on the Kiwifarms. While I should've lurked more before Kiwifarms, my views of trannies went from neutral to lukewarm, and finally downright abysmal in the span of two months. All I can say is is that I'm grateful I discovered the website that showed me how gross troons truly are. I would've been in the dark about the whole trans issue if it wasn't for this place.
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