General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Biobreak]

Kiara's roommate wants to stream Genshin. This can only end well. Granted, she may need to talk to Coco about doing things to prevent crossing the streams like setting up a nightbot or something to block words related to hololive.

Really wondering if this is somehow connected to her frustrations about being shadowbanned. Her view monetization has likely dropped significantly.

I can see the implication from being distinguished between idol group and content creators. So if any of you are hoping to see tako, gremlin, shork, chicken or death(or any future EN girls) in 3D, chances are that it will never happen or it's at the bottom tier of priority as 3D model development will be entirely focused on JP branch(and the boys, unsure about ID).

I've always had that uncomfortable feeling every time Gura, Ina or Ame would be shooting the breeze with chat and the topic of the 3D models and "getting onstage with their senpais" get brought up. They've all had their versions of the "maybe someday" spiel on it.

ID and EN are investments that have yielded more than expected but I feel like a lot of the profits that Cover got from these are being re-invested instead into their core position - JP. Calli and Kiara got a lot of creative ventures/opportunities by virtue of being in Japan where most of the action is. The NA EN girls along with EnMa on the other hand are left to fend for themselves. The best they can hope for is home 3D models, but I don't think they ever get onstage unless all 3 make the decision to move to Japan.

 

[Namesarehardtocomeupwith]

So does that makes Shishiron Raoh?

 

[jankhater]

izvorna muzika 24h marathon karaoke when

Spoiler: sure hit

Jesus, horni, is crna one syllable?
Finished out the work day listening to this group. Thank you for making me insane now.

ENma is probably female, wouldnt surprise me after the Banpire shitstorm from last year.

also, Sora's new 3D model pisses me off more than it should.
WHAT HAPPENED TO HER BLUE EYES
WHY BROWN
#NOTMYSORA

Mein schwarzer, Sora originally had browneyes:

 

[Abarefiller]

I wonder about that. . . how much of a coloring factor he is. Does anyone remember that moth VTuber mentioned ages ago? She was recommended to me via a YT commentator two days ago. Looked at her (on Twitch) and she is a pretty impressive in that she is a working para-legal that rigged her own models (yes, models. . . watch the clips and you'll see what I mean). Let me find her real quick. I'm not schilling by any means. . . but. . . some of that has to be noteworthy at least? More than Bootleg shark.

Edit:

Finally started watching some vtubers that weren't from Hololive. The moth lady has some really comfy streams, and I especially love the gimmick of alternating between Baby Mode, Milf Mode and Full Moon mode. She seems pretty chill too, highly reccomend it.

 

[Cubanodun]

NOT
MY
SORA

Time to vandalize some cutouts

 

[ZMOT]

ID and EN are investments that have yielded more than expected but I feel like a lot of the profits that Cover got from these are being re-invested instead into their core position - JP. Calli and Kiara got a lot of creative ventures/opportunities by virtue of being in Japan where most of the action is. The NA EN girls along with EnMa on the other hand are left to fend for themselves. The best they can hope for is home 3D models, but I don't think they ever get onstage unless all 3 make the decision to move to Japan.

once if that corona shit ends, it shouldn't be that difficult to pick a date and have them visit japan for 1-2 weeks to get the 3d and some collab stuff done. heck just rent a house for a month and put them together with ID and make it a big thing. then repeat that after a few months. would also give them the opportunity to spend some time with their JP senpais to break some ice etc.

Jesus, horni, is crna one syllable?
Finished out the work day listening to this group. Thank you for making me insane now.

missed the video, that golf GTI, I don't even...

 

[reinigen]

Finally started watching some vtubers that weren't from Hololive. The moth lady has some really comfy streams, and I especially love the gimmick of alternating between Baby Mode, Milf Mode and Full Moon mode. She seems pretty chill too, highly reccomend it.

Oh, nice catch. She's actually rigging her own model in Live2D right now on stream. It's interesting seeing this in action.

 

[ElUltimoMohicano]

Time to vandalize some cutouts

 

[horni]

Jesus, horni, is crna one syllable?

It's pronounced more like "tsy-rna". The song is (obviously) about "Black Two" i.e. black Volkswagen Golf Mk2, an undeniable status of wealth and dominance.

And now I want to watch a stream where vtubers are trying to pronounce tongue twisters from different languages.

Also you mentioning Balkans reminded me that I used to travel there every couple of years, but it's not happening again very soon.

 

[Friend computer]

It's pronounced more like "tsy-rna". The song is (obviously) about "Black Two" i.e. black Volkswagen Golf Mk2, an undeniable status of wealth and dominance.

And now I want to watch a stream where vtubers are trying to pronounce tongue twisters from different languages.

Also you mentioning Balkans reminded me that I used to travel there every couple of years, but it's not happening again very soon.

 

[augment]

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Shai hulud... the spice must flow!

 

[Narrative_A-packs]

ENma is probably female, wouldnt surprise me after the Banpire shitstorm from last year.

also, Sora's new 3D model pisses me off more than it should.
WHAT HAPPENED TO HER BLUE EYES
WHY BROWN
#NOTMYSORA

Takodachi showing how uncultured they are in Sora lore.

 

[LOWERCASE LETTERS]

Noel has been over the moon ever since her and Flare finally got their rings.

 

[Deluxe]

Gibara said that she will be graduating from Nijisanji after her 2nd anniversary in a member stream. Archives will be deleted

clip on niconico

https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm38363932

 

[Grass4Cats]

 

[darkestraven]

Ya'll talking about tongue twisters while Luna is suffering with Google.

 

[Takodachi]

Gibara said that she will be graduating from Nijisanji after her 2nd anniversary in a member stream. Archives will be deleted

clip on niconico

https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm38363932

goddamnit

 

[Grass4Cats]

And she finally just got a new outfit too.

 

[kadmckool]

I hate to tell you this, but we're in an echo chamber.

Most people are uninformed, dumb, and complete normalfags. They'll sit and watch reruns on television, dumb shit on Netflix or Disney+, and just veg out. None of what you said here really gives Hololive a snowball's chance in Hell at being anything more than a fun niche for (mostly) people under 30 who aren't regularly employed (even if it is from home) or already a member of some sort of niche interest demographic. The average person is boring, uninformed, and will still watch whatever Marvel movie is being rerun or whatever dumb TV drama is playing. You'd be surprised how many people turn off their brains and try to ignore woke stuff. Granted, that number is rapidly dwindling but the fact is, Hololive and Vtubers are really not much of a threat to any industry... YET.

You might have to wait a while before it can put a dent in anything. And God's honest truth, I hope it never gets that popular. The Millennials damn near mainstreamed various subcultures and counter-cultures with the whole "Geek Chic" and Big Bang Theory garbage 15 or 20 years ago, and in the process, laid the groundwork for SJW infiltration, going woke, and the absolute trashing of brands, hobbies, and communities. If you want Vtubers to still be cool in 5 years, you'd pray like hell it continues to remain a niche thing in the West.

You are gate keeping because you are a good business owner who has a success business?

in the end it’s a high risk high reward either they lose all after 5 years if they let lefties like Zen or the troon shark in or they can ascend to the new level if they get gems like Calli

 

[Jaeger]

Ya'll talking about tongue twisters while Luna is suffering with Google.

Don't post this. It's weaponized Diabetes. Banned by the Geneva Convention. The cuteness overload is terminal.

Also...

You are gate keeping because you are a good business owner who has a success business?

in the end it’s a high risk high reward either they lose all after 5 years if they let lefties like Zen or the troon shark in or they can ascend to the new level if they get gems like Calli

I am gatekeeping? Yeah, dude, sure, I am. And quit with the logical fallacies. I've lived in Japan, have a rudimentary understanding of Japanese business practices, have dealt with Japanese businesses and know people personally who are... guess what?... involved in Japanese businesses on a regular basis.

Japanese business almost always chooses to work with foreign markets through various sorts of proxies--either proxies they own as subsidiaries (like the car companies) or through licensing corporations and/or other forms of distribution middle-men. The latter is precisely why the Western markets for Japanese otaku-centric goods have been poisoned by political activists mistranslating things and claiming it is "localization." The political infection of everything is why there's this push to troon Vtubing out. I wouldn't put it past Google, for example, to eventually ban Japanese Vtubers for whatever made-up reason to force Western audiences to watch the politically correct troon Vtubers. If you can't control the supply at the source, then control all the means of getting that supply to the Western market. Simple yet effective strategy and so far it has been working. Notice how complacent anime and manga consumers have become? Notice how nobody fansubs anymore?

As for high reward, only for the corporations, not for the actual fans. Mainstream success demands the sell-out. This has been discussed elsewhere by, I believe, Gravemind and Mister O. So, if you want a degraded version that is watered-down, bargain-basement, accessible-to-the-masses Hololive, yeah, mainstreaming and zero gatekeeping is for you. I think I speak for a lot of people here, though, when I say that most people would rather this stay niche.