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Next time something like this happens, we should just wait for the body cam footage, coroner reports, and brief history of persons involved. It'll take time but at least the story won't be twisted again.
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You’re optimistic. BLM is too entrenched. The desire to reach their utopia is too great. The progressives have too strong a hold.Next time something like this happens, we should just wait for the body cam footage, coroner reports, and brief history of persons involved. It'll take time but at least the story won't be twisted again.
Was it really a smart idea to put his knee on Floyd's neck? Was is a necessity? From all the footage shown, the cops did do everything possible to help the guy and laid him on the concrete since he asked them too. And then he put his knee on his neck and destroyed everything.
Not to stan the cops, but why is it everybody has to always adapt around our lowest denominator but they never have to raise themselves up? You will never climb a mountain peak when some of your belay partners are apparently in a race to the bottom.Police reform in general. Not being as aggressive or power hungry, community engagement, more funding, vetting. I don't mean defund the police; I mean have some reform so that police officers are rightfully held accountable. AND have protections so when shit DOES hit the fan, there's a chance you won't just get punished. See Atlanta with Brooks.
Police cameras is a great start. Some unions are incompetent or corrupt, see Chicago or Balitmore.
What would you prefer Chauvin have done to become a "good guy"? He was following proper procedures to restrain a tripping felon on a literal cocktail of drugs. No way in hell you can expect an officer who just arrives at a scene to be able to predict how someone on fentanyl, meth, and morphine will behave. You mention Floyd acting erratic in your comment; at what point should the restraint be removed from the erratic druggie felon? How can you be sure he won't attack somebody as soon as you do? Failing to preform a miracle of saving someone who took over twice the lethal dosage for just ONE of the myriad drugs he was on is not a moral failing. Only thing Officer Chauvin did wrong was arrive on time. He should have stopped for donuts, and let George Floyd gracelessly expire from his overdose 15 minutes later anyways.If the coroner report say that Floyd died of a drug overdose, then that's that. I still think the knee was that amount of time was excessive. Although Floyd brought it on himself by acting erratic. Being under the influence can turn anybody into Superman.
There are NO good guys in this whole situation.
Honestly, Chauvin should have pulled off Floyd's pants, asked another dude to knee neck him while he went down and gave Floyd a blow job.What would you prefer Chauvin have done to become a "good guy"?
There's Chauvin's argument in court.Yes. No. Maybe so.
But, it is what he was trained to do:
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Following the training manual is white supremacy.
More to come from the defense: “There comes a point where everyone is telling him, ‘Look, he’s not responding anymore.’ … I want our viewers to get familiar with a very important word here, it’s called “excited delirium.” … That’s what he’s going to use to explain why when [Floyd] was no longer responsive, he continued with the knee on the neck because that, when you talk about excited delirium, it’s about people who use drugs, which they’re going to claim they saw him using, that’s why they’re talking about the tablet on the tongue, bizarre behavior. We saw that, but eventually, it gets to something that’s called superhuman strength. Oftentimes people in that position, they show superhuman strength and that picture shows how you are supposed to restrain people when you are afraid for excited delirium,” Attorney Michael Ayala added. “This is a game-changer…it’s going to be tough to overcome this training instruction picture that shows exactly how [Chauvin] was doing it by the book.”
Sad to say, that would've helped a lot. At least until the next police confrontation.Only thing Officer Chauvin did wrong was arrive on time. He should have stopped for donuts, and let George Floyd gracelessly expire from his overdose 15 minutes later anyways.
Not to stan BLM or Floyd, but the idea of being suffocated while being arrested or detained is disturbing.Not to stan the cops, but why is it everybody has to always adapt around our lowest denominator but they never have to raise themselves up? You will never climb a mountain peak when some of your belay partners are apparently in a race to the bottom.
"Good guy," meaning nobody was in the right.What would you prefer Chauvin have done to become a "good guy"? He was following proper procedures to restrain a tripping felon on a literal cocktail of drugs. No way in hell you can expect an officer who just arrives at a scene to be able to predict how someone on fentanyl, meth, and morphine will behave.
That’s pretty close to stabbing. What you’re saying is true. But the only thing keeping this from being like anything else is that BLM and the prosecution is going all in on painting it as a racially motivated move.Not to stan BLM or Floyd, but the idea of being suffocated while being arrested or detained is disturbing.
Floyd's death had nothing to do with Chauvin though, he could have been literally anywhere doing anything and it still would of killed him. He was suffering from Wooden Chest syndrome, where the muscles and diaphragm start seizing up. Here's the wikipedia page; alot goes over my head, but it matches closely to everything we know.Not to stan BLM or Floyd, but the idea of being suffocated while being arrested or detained is disturbing.
Wooden chest syndrome is a rigidity of the chest following the administration of high doses of opioids during anaesthesia.[1]
Wooden chest syndrome describes marked muscle rigidity — especially involving the thoracic and abdominal muscles — that is an occasional adverse effect associated with the intravenous administration of lipophilic synthetic opioids such as fentanyl. It can make ventilation difficult, and seems to be reversed by naloxone.[2] Hypoxemia, hypertension, pulmonary hypertension, respiratory acidosis and increased intracranial pressure may supervene.[3]
One recent study hypothesized that chest wall rigidity might be at least partially responsible for some deaths related to intravenous injection of fentanyl, which increasingly is appearing in samples of heroin.[2]
Was it really a smart idea to put his knee on Floyd's neck? Was is a necessity? From all the footage shown, the cops did do everything possible to help the guy and laid him on the concrete since he asked them too. And then he put his knee on his neck and destroyed everything.
The city will never recover. Urban decay exists for a reason. If it breaks, especially in these black-centric progressive communities, it stays broken. Those buildings that are destroyed will not be rebuilt. The rubble will probably still be there considering how much it costs just to remove it.
Ultimately while I think Chauvin's actions were partly because of an ego trip he was just absolutely the wrong man (a white cop) in the wrong place (on the neck of a dead man walking who happens to be black in front of a dozen cameras) at absolutely the wrong time (coming right off of the first covid lockdowns in an election year with the media already desperately trying to whip up simmering tensions into racial division). Sure, the media would have kept trying anyway but nothing else had the raw potential to make things erupt like this did.Yes. No. Maybe so.
But, it is what he was trained to do:
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Following the training manual is white supremacy.
At the end of the day, they can get fucked too though imo. Chances are, 99% of them were voting Biden because Trump's extremely lax immigration policies were already too much for them. They're still flooding into a white country and demanding that benefits, which are mostly paid for by whites, should be going to them instead of poor whites. The fact that 42% of them recognize that another parasitic group is not beneficial to them as it is a competitor doesn't really mean much.depends on the latino, if its born here then its most likely gonna side with floyd but if its an older and or foreign born then its more likely that type of latino hates nigs and sides with chauvin
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Use your numbers.At the end of the day, they can get fucked too though imo. Chances are, 99% of them were voting Biden because Trump's extremely lax immigration policies were already too much for them. They're still flooding into a white country and demanding that benefits, which are mostly paid for by whites, should be going to them instead of poor whites. The fact that 42% of them recognize that another parasitic group is not beneficial to them as it is a competitor doesn't really mean much.
Biden did win the Latino vote in those states. But in Texas, 41 percent to 47 percent of Hispanic voters backed Trump in several heavily Latino border counties in the Rio Grande Valley region, a Democratic stronghold. In Florida, Trump won 45 percent of the Latino vote, an 11-point improvement from his 2016 performance.
>Chances are, 99% of them
The day america falls into a continent of neo tribes is when the rest of the world will fall too. When that happens china won't collect shitWith rich fleeing to private islands or east to china or european nation .
maybe a retake over by great britian but most likely china callimg up debt being slave to china.
Ultimately while I think Chauvin's actions were partly because of an ego trip he was just absolutely the wrong man (a white cop) in the wrong place (on the neck of a dead man walking who happens to be black in front of a dozen cameras) at absolutely the wrong time (coming right off of the first covid lockdowns in an election year with the media already desperately trying to whip up simmering tensions into racial division). Sure, the media would have kept trying anyway but nothing else had the raw potential to make things erupt like this did.
That's where Chauvin fucked up, the knee restraint itself may have been within policy but that doesn't mean he did nothing wrong in my opinion. He probably kept the knee on Floyd longer than he should have out of a sense of 'fuck you, I'm in charge here' to the gathering crowd and felt it wasn't dangerous since he'd done it a bunch of times before. Then when Floyd starts to go unresponsive and the crowd gets angrier thinking he's just choked the life out of him he freezes up as an inkling of the shitstorm that he's unwittingly unleashed begins to dawn on him. Anything he should've done at that point would be pure optics in hindsight, but at least looking like he was trying to render aid might've made him look better.Yeah, it was just a huge optical failure that the Democrats exploited to get Trump out.
What Chauvin could have done is sat Floyd up when the crowd gathered around and not just freeze and be uncommunicative. His demeanor plus Floyd's theatrics really tricked people into thinking Floyd was being choked instead of suffering from a fentanyl overdose. Chauvin shouldn't go to jail just for looking the wrong way tho.
I'd say it depends where they live.depends on the latino, if its born here then its most likely gonna side with floyd
lol this shit has been on the agenda since May, 8, 1945I've said a couple of times in this thread if the Floyd incident didn't happen, the media would have selected another sainted victim to kick off the riots. They've been wanting this shit for years now.
We all should feel betrayed.
What Chauvin could have done is sat Floyd up when the crowd gathered around and not just freeze and be uncommunicative. His demeanor plus Floyd's theatrics really tricked people into thinking Floyd was being choked instead of suffering from a fentanyl overdose. Chauvin shouldn't go to jail just for looking the wrong way tho.
Part of an Officer's job is to also protect anyone they have in their custody, they started to get a hostile crowd gathering around them (it wasn't just people passively watching), which could have distracted the officers to either 1) attempt to help Floyd flee or 2) attack Floyd, both of which the officer would be responsible for if it happened. The crowd distracted Chauvin from Floyd's state. If you give in to the crowd you only encourage them, and risk making it worse.That's where Chauvin fucked up, the knee restraint itself may have been within policy but that doesn't mean he did nothing wrong in my opinion. He probably kept the knee on Floyd longer than he should have out of a sense of 'fuck you, I'm in charge here' to the gathering crowd and felt it wasn't dangerous since he'd done it a bunch of times before. Then when Floyd starts to go unresponsive and the crowd gets angrier thinking he's just choked the life out of him he freezes up as an inkling of the shitstorm that he's unwittingly unleashed begins to dawn on him. Anything he should've done at that point would be pure optics in hindsight, but at least looking like he was trying to render aid might've made him look better.