Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Saw this on r/transgender_surgeries this morning and thought "...well, I can't even begin to tell what's supposed to be what, but at least it doesn't look necrotic".



I dove down the rabbit hole to see if this user has posted anything else related to their neo-vagina, and of course they have.


I also caught this:

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Reddit Troon #1: "I have a vagina that farts and poops!"

Reddit Troon #2: Don't worry too much. Maybe it's a small fistula that can be fixed!
Is that Troon #2 a troll? Who the hell would even consider dilation for someone with a fistula?
 
Oh no, a tranny feels like 41% themselves:

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Just realised I recognised his user name and have shared some of his posts before:

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Looks like rotting beef. 🤮

His post history is fucking hilarious: https://www.reddit.com/user/Lettucelat/
I’ve archived it: https://archive.md/99OYx


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I don’t feel sorry for him at all. He chose to mutilate his genitals and now he has to deal with that choice.
 
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You guys have way, way, way, way

WAY too much tolerance for this stuff. I can't even look at these pictures anymore and the text posts themselves are almost too much. I'm no nubbin, back in the 1.0 days I looked at all that ogrish and rotten shit, I even looked at dead body pics for an hour at the end of a heavy shroom trip. But this genital mutilation Dr. Mengele shit is just too much. It's worse than the most brutal horror movie or gore video. It's worse than looking at a dead body or trauma case in real life. It's almost alien it's so unnerving.
 
It would make more sense to take out and use a floating rib. Wait. I take it back, none of it makes sense.

"And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept; and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And woman pulled the rib out and stuckith it in her groin with mud and sap and said she was man. And the Lord God said she was not valid."

Funny enough, I've read are stretched, goofy theory that the original translation of that may have been bone and not rib, and that it could be referencing humans not having the penis bone that most other mammals have.
 
@Prolego posted this video in the Sideshows thread, and I thought it deserved to be cross-posted here. :)
I knew phalloplasty just creates a floppy roll of skin as a sad mockery of a penis, but I didn't expect it to be like... this. :cringe:
I dunno, I guess I just thought it would be more solid, not so weird and stretchy. LOL

While we're on this topic, here's some info on the erectile devices FTMs sometimes get installed in their sausage rolls:
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From: https://www.reddit.com/r/phallo/wiki/index

Here's an example of a "rod":

And here are a couple examples of "pumps":

I find this stuff morbidly fascinating for some reason. :lol:
Fancy paying thousands of dollars for something that looks like plasticine stuck onto your pelvis.

I'd love to see the university marks of these "surgeons".
Was this one's (bottom one with blue shirt) surgeon drunk when they did it?

And they posted it on the internet too, gosh maybe they really are all incels that have never had any sort of sex!
 
Fancy paying thousands of dollars for something that looks like plasticine stuck onto your pelvis.

I'd love to see the university marks of these "surgeons".
Was this one's (bottom one with blue shirt) surgeon drunk when they did it?

And they posted it on the internet too, gosh maybe they really are all incels that have never had any sort of sex!
I'd drink on the job too if this was what I had to deal with every day.
 
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If you have to go to Reddit instead of your surgeon to ask these extremely basic and vague questions, why would you trust the surgeon to cut you open in the first place? Fucking loons
Though of course you know all they want to hear is "you'll be fine!" so why bother providing details.

LOL:
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It's not what they think it is:
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Retards :story:

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For a group of people whose mantra is "educate yourself!!!" this entire sub doesn't know how to use fucking Google.
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@Prolego posted this video in the Sideshows thread, and I thought it deserved to be cross-posted here. :)
I knew phalloplasty just creates a floppy roll of skin as a sad mockery of a penis, but I didn't expect it to be like... this. :cringe:
I dunno, I guess I just thought it would be more solid, not so weird and stretchy. LOL

While we're on this topic, here's some info on the erectile devices FTMs sometimes get installed in their sausage rolls:
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From: https://www.reddit.com/r/phallo/wiki/index

Here's an example of a "rod":

And here are a couple examples of "pumps":

I find this stuff morbidly fascinating for some reason. :lol:
The clip of the dangly flesh sock has been haunting me. Theres something deep in my animal brain that says "that shouldn't be there" and wants to chop it off the person suffering from it. My first reaction is like seeing an over sized skin tag or a tumor or something, it clearly shouldn't exist. The way that the base gets thin because its just hanging skin and has no erectile tissue is horrific. Its an insulting facsimile of a penis.
It looks like pus is coming out of the urethra, he may have recurrent UTIs. Some people have them without a lot of pain, but if they don't get it treated it can turn into a kidney infection and cause permanent damage. Test strips for detecting white blood cells can be used to regularly monitor for problems. That's just a consequence of shortening the urethra to a mere inch or two, and a whole lot of these troons end up with a huge urethral opening for some reason. bacteria marches right in.

If he doesn't like being fucked in the neovaginal opening and hates the smell he should let it close up or ask for zero depth vaginoplasty. That should reduce the smell significantly. The loss of ability to orgasm is a shame though.

I can't help but think this kind of guy would be unhappy even if there were a way to give him a real female reproductive system. Things like periods, changes in discharge during the month, variation in appearance vs pornography, and the relative difficulty of orgasm (generally speaking) would drive him crazy. He does not have the worst looking result either and he is obsessing over it.
Holy crap, this one is pretty fucked:
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That gaping, yawning hole is so aesthetically pleasing. Looks really authentic, just like a real cis woman.

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“Is this a two step?” :story:
Looks like fgm victim, between a 2 and a 3 in severity

It's not what they think it is:
I have seen exactly one troon get their clavicle bones shortened to try and make their shoulders less pronounced. It was incredibly fucked up and didn't do nearly enough for the amount of money and risk involved with taking a bone saw to a perfectly functional skeleton. I actually think it ended up being remilia but I could definitely be mistaken about that. It was in the tranny sideshows thread somewhere, complete with pics of the bone that got taken out and thrown away.
 
Holy crap, this one is pretty fucked:
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That gaping, yawning hole is so aesthetically pleasing. Looks really authentic, just like a real cis woman.

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“Is this a two step?” :story:
What disturbs me about this one isn’t even the fetid hole, but rather the lil nibs at the end of the skin seam. I do a bit of sewing on the side so I know what it feels like to see that with fabric - seeing It on skin is a level of disturbing that somehow hits different from the mutilation itself.
 

Psychology/ Medical Research Information on Issues of Studying Troon SRS for anyone who is interested


General Look At Ethics of Regrets for medical procedures:
I need to re-look at the medical literature and psychological literature but I saw between a 20-30% regret rate. If you count this as a PURELY cosmetic procedure that's damn high and would really concern me if I was a (good) cosmetic surgeon. For a "life-saving essential"? fucking abysmal. If you saw these rates for something like dental work that is truly essential procedure... like permanent dentures, it would call for new technology and re-training and fixing infection rates etc. etc. and procedures would phase out like the moon because of the level of inhumane and shit results.

Challenges in Studying Troons

I also need to add now to get an independent clinical or even social psychologists out there to study this because basically there's a lot of ethical red tape and debriefing that needs to happen for a study and things are ranged on how much psychological harm it can cause a patient/participant. So no harm is basically like going to court documents to study crimes of troons which are free to the public and 0 interaction so zero harm. Discussing things that are adjacent to troonery like PTSD, CSA, Personality disorders, and GRS? Pretty fucking Haram. (Also, this is how non-tenured careers die lol.)Even if you don't like troonery and think it's nonce as a professional in your field you have to take into account patient welfare and treat them with humanistic dignity and respect. Thus, you have to set up an experiment that's ethical and also kill your personal biases (there is one paper I read that was a research team who redid a Blanchard one to academically PK him and he ended up right so the seethe levels in the paper were immensely high and it was top kek, by the way in academia you publish ones where you were wrong as well because it's equally important).

There's a lot of issues in the academic community of getting troons to participate in studies regarding their surgeries mostly due to the small sample size of troons. Also, any study has what is called a mortality rate (lol not 41% I mean people who inevitably drop out of the study). I'm not saying this can't be valid but what I am saying is you have to look at the study reliability on a larger scale and is it applicable to ALL troons? For example, if one surgeon is really good at it and doesn't Dr.Rumer there might be a higher rate of success and happiness. However, this wouldn't be true of ALL GRS surgeries. It would simply be the accord of the doctor. Also as we have seen from these pics what troons take as a "good result" is often a nightmare as the levels of genital reconstruction vary from "normal person whose received trauma to the area" to "devils maw" and the copium is high as Blanchard has previously talked about with lying and overlap of personality disorders in troons. Then you have to look at long term, are they happy 10 years late? did they dilate (lol the answer is no) Did they an hero or attempt a 41%?

Challenges in Relaying Info

Finally, the issue is spreading this information in a way that people will receive and be able to digest. For example, the 41% joke is not a number of an heroes, it's the number of people who ATTEMPT it over a lifetime, and the suicide attempt to regret ratio is never 1:1. This is something easily misinterpreted so ensuring you clearly state your results and what it means is really important because people will fuck up your words as it is never as simple as explaining a result in one sentence as it often misconstrues the idea or makes it clickbaity. This goes for every study ever done in the history of ever.

Closing/Takeaways

This is basically why troon sciences fucking suck other than the usual things we already know of like internet hugboxing and inability to process that they're being unethical and insane with gender affirmation.

Kiwis are really good at reading between the lines and want "truth" usually over ideology or what they think is true when assessing cows or phenomenons (at least on the parts I frequent). The autism brings intellectual curiosity as well as keks. As internet sleuths, it's important for us to look really critically at these things as we are one of the last bastions on the net that let you say and do as you please with minimal retardation.
 
Holy crap, this one is pretty fucked:
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“Is this a two step?” :story:
"Y'all aren't experts"
Neither are you if you thought this was a good idea
Neither are the "doctors" that did this to you.
But yeah it totally passes if you're going for "sex-ed textbook chic" or the height of vaginal fashion "Cameroonian FGM victim"
 
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Related/tangential to this, it reminds me of the complete shitshow surrounding the Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) Controversy.
I'm sure you already know about it, but I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts or the thoughts of any other medical Kiwis. Topical especially since Detrans Awareness Day was yesterday, but the hashtag was apparently suppressed on Twitter and other social media platforms.

Anyway, the linked wiki article is a good overview, but basically a researcher and professor at Brown University - Dr. Lisa Littman - published a 2018 paper about how "gender dysphoria" is spreading via social contagion, especially among peer groups of school-age girls. Littman coined the "ROGD" term to describe this.
Anyone who knows anything about FTMs can probably recognize this as an obvious truth, but oh no... the backlash against this paper was HUGE. And not just from crazy troons on social media, but also from shit tons of academics, activists, medical professionals, and all kinds of trans/health/civil rights organizations.

The criticism was all very disingenuous, too. Dr. Littman was accused of being an evil TERF using flawed methodologies to get the transphobic findings she desired.
Brown University quickly backtracked on promoting the paper. PLOS One (the scientific journal that published it) bowed to pressure and did a post-publication review to nitpick these so-called flawed methodologies. Littman was harassed like crazy and has been blacklisted by many of her peers and the associations/organizations in her field.

The funny thing is that review of her paper, despite being meritless and extremely nitpicky, ended up finding no significant problems. Nevertheless, PLOS One still had Littman "correct" the paper, and all the critics and TRAs ran with that headline. They ignored that nothing had really changed... only that the evil TERF's original paper was Flawed™, and therefore worthless.

Original Paper: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330
"Corrected" Paper: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0214157

Here's an interview Dr. Littman did about the controversy (long but very interesting): https://quillette.com/2019/03/19/an...coined-the-term-rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria/

Arjee Restar, an MTF academic also at Brown University, published a hitpiece on Littman's "flawed" methodologies: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-019-1453-2
Littman fired back with a response showing that her methodologies are perfectly fine and - in fact - very standard: https://t.co/A2pZo8nYMB?amp=1

Perhaps because of this backstabbing and other drama within Brown University, Littman left or was forced out of the university in 2020. She and a few of her colleagues now study gender dysphoria independently and seem very interested in desisters/detransitioners. See: her website and her twitter.
 
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If you have to go to Reddit instead of your surgeon to ask these extremely basic and vague questions, why would you trust the surgeon to cut you open in the first place? Fucking loons
Though of course you know all they want to hear is "you'll be fine!" so why bother providing details.

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Retards :story:

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For a group of people whose mantra is "educate yourself!!!" this entire sub doesn't know how to use fucking Google.


"Yeah just get them reduced"
It's not like your shoulder joints are important or anything, but we are talking about a faction of humanity that believes filleting genitals can turn them into totally functional genitals of the opposite sex.
If you're this retarded, you need a wrangler.
 
Funny side-note:

I thought Arjee Restar was a real woman at first. There are plenty of handmaidens among academics, after all. Plus, Restar doesn't look like an obvious man at first glance (probably because he's Filipino - and asian troons tend to pass better).

But then I happened to look at his published work, and several of his papers are about HIV and men who have sex with transwomen.
"What a strange topic of interest for a woman, hmm..." :thinking:
Took a closer look at some of his pictures, and only then realized this might be a troon.
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Checked his twitter, and sure enough: https://twitter.com/Dr_ArjeeRestar
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Confirmation.
He's insufferable, too. Constantly posts about troon stuff, particularly in regards to STEM/academia. Says "Filipinx" instead of Filipino... :cringe:
He also used to use the twitter handle @arjeerestar, as seen when you do a search. But he apparently deleted that account at some point and started using @Dr_ArjeeRestar instead, so he's probably one of those people who are stuck up about having a PhD and demands everyone address them as Doctor, lol.

An interesting thought: Restar was just a doctoral student at Brown University when Dr. Littman published her paper on ROGD. Maybe Restar published that hitpiece I mentioned in the previous post as a deliberate backstab. He might have seen it as a way to take down and drive out an evil TERF that outranked him within the university.

 
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