Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Mother puss bucket]

I don't think most people would have an issue with transgenderism if it was just a change in self-identity and not a fundamental change in personality and values. Overnight people suddenly act as though they had an overpriced education on the West Coast or in New England.

They would because it's dishonest. People know what a man is and they know what a woman is. When you ask people to lie to you they get upset about it. People don't like having to lie about things when it's obvious it's not true and they don't believe what you're making them say.

I have a steam friend I suspect is either a hardcore Japanophile or he's planning to cut his dick off soon. He's distancing himself from his real life and moving to Japan to start a new one. We haven't spoke in a couple of months because of life style clashes and I can't help but think he's getting into the troon rabbit hole. He's part of the coding circles which are overrun by them now. Tempted to say hey, tempted to ditch him and move on.

 

[AMHOLIO]

I have a steam friend I suspect is either a hardcore Japanophile or he's planning to cut his dick off soon.

Oh god, hope it's not both. Imagine being a troon weeb in Japan, you'd get stares for the rest of your life. Hope he makes it out ok.

 

[Niggernerd]

Oh god, hope it's not both. Imagine being a troon weeb in Japan, you'd get stares for the rest of your life. Hope he makes it out ok.

B-but Japan is very accepting and culturally tolerant!!!!!
I genuinely hope most of them believe this and go to probably the most xenophobic place imaginable. Might make them wake up pretty damn fast.

 

[Mother puss bucket]

Oh god, hope it's not both. Imagine being a troon weeb in Japan, you'd get stares for the rest of your life. Hope he makes it out ok.

B-but Japan is very accepting and culturally tolerant!!!!!
I genuinely hope most of them believe this and go to probably the most xenophobic place imaginable. Might make them wake up pretty damn fast.

With so many weebs trooning out this can't be much rarer than the usual Loser at home types moving to Japan to begin with. Troons usually come from middle class families from what I've seen and those are the exact type of people who have the money to move to a new country to start fresh. Instead of moving to another state to start fresh they might move to Japan to start fresh. Name themselves after their waifu and end up 41ing out after 6 months of even deeper loneliness.

 

[Aqua Panda]

I know a girl who is marrying a big trans lolcow in the Magic TCG community soon. (All while claiming to be asexual and diving headfirst in the more extreme elements of the Trans community.)

It has been really sad watching her meltdown. She was the classic awkward anime nerd tomboy type who came from a big Catholic family. College had her go full atheist and have a big fallout with her religious mom. She fell for a guy and was pumped and dumped by him senior year. She never recovered and that's when she started a "I'm totally asexual" despite obviously lusting after men phase.

Over the last few years the LGBT stuff became her identity. Not in the equal rights and access under the law way but every piece of her personal identity must be about her queerness and the more cult aspects of it. To the point she's been dropping hints she might go FtM. All while ranting about major depression. Full on champagne socialist as well.

Honestly, it's sad. I do wish her well, but I've kinda accepted that there is a good chance she'll eventually join the 41%. She never handled puberty well and I honestly wonder if the depression and awkwardness made her desperate for any place to fit in.

 

[Mother puss bucket]

I know a girl who is marrying a big trans lolcow in the Magic TCG community soon. (All while claiming to be asexual and diving headfirst in the more extreme elements of the Trans community.)

It has been really sad watching her meltdown. She was the classic awkward anime nerd tomboy type who came from a big Catholic family. College had her go full atheist and have a big fallout with her religious mom. She fell for a guy and was pumped and dumped by him senior year. She never recovered and that's when she started a "I'm totally asexual" despite obviously lusting after men phase.

Over the last few years the LGBT stuff became her identity. Not in the equal rights and access under the law way but every piece of her personal identity must be about her queerness and the more cult aspects of it. To the point she's been dropping hints she might go FtM. All while ranting about major depression. Full on champagne socialist as well.

Honestly, it's sad. I do wish her well, but I've kinda accepted that there is a good chance she'll eventually join the 41%. She never handled puberty well and I honestly wonder if the depression and awkwardness made her desperate for any place to fit in.

WOTC and the MTG community are pushing this stuff really hard at the moment and it's influencing a lot of weirdo awkward people to follow that path. Is she following it because she's lonely and thinks this is her only path to being accepted?

 

[Aqua Panda]

WOTC and the MTG community are pushing this stuff really hard at the moment and it's influencing a lot of weirdo awkward people to follow that path. Is she following it because she's lonely and thinks this is her only path to being accepted?

IMO it's mainly so she can fit in somewhere. I also think her disastrous first sexual experience reverted her to the middle school "sex is gross" mentality. (Or subconsciously to save face.)

Obviously, that's her decision, but the sheer amount of what looks like grooming to me really makes me wonder.

 

[Banditotron]

That's so shit. You'd think that for all the discrimination they cry about, they wouldn't do it to another person. I'm really sorry that he was so rude to you.

It might seem shitty of me to say, but I think that people who have experienced abuse or discrimination are the most likely to turn around and do it to someone else. It's the cycle of abuse. Abusers make abusers of the abused, bigots make bigots of the discriminated.
I think that insightful people, smart people, can break out of this cycle. It takes a smart person to see how they were hurt and understand how to make sure they don't pass that pain on.

 

[Henry Wyatt]

I have a cousin who trooned out (FtM), I bickered with other family members about it and the troon's mum hardly spoke to the rest of the family since.
It's like the troon out affected other people rather than my cousin. It's strange.
Not saying that my argument is the sole cause, something else must have happened too but I don't know. I did apologise for my words.

"wow I started an argument, therefore its the trannys fault"

 

[turdburger]

All the ones I've known are natal females. First one was someone I knew online, probably 15 years ago or more when it was still called transsexualism. She'd been unhappy with life for a while. I don't know what the ultimate outcome was because I lost contact with him.
The other two are both recent. One is a 20-something kid of a family I'm a friend to. In some ways he's mature, in others not so much. He's a good person with loving parents and I really hope he doesn't end up regretting it.
The other one is the teen kid of a relative. The kid's mother is a stupid, awful, intolerant 'identity politics' woman who saw the kid's autism diagnosis and later transgenderism as a bragging right and a victim privilege. The kid is obsessed with communism and anti-capitalism and BLM and trans rights and other dumb shit. I'm pretty sure this is doomed because this kid who wants to live as a gay man is about 5'4" with an overbite and no chin and pear-shaped build with no upper body strength and a massive fat butt, and is never going to be satisfied with the outcome.

 

[Had]

In highschool was probably the first time I really started to question any of it
not because of "red pills or anything" just from watching the people around me.

One girl I knew in highschool was a total trender
In middle school she started telling everyone she was a lesbian, then she was trans, then she was no gender
she even when on to pretend to be disable causing her mother to have to take her to school herself everyday.

I knew this other girl who went though a similar deal
but rather than being disable she became Muslim and when no one cared she offed herself halfway though senior year

It's always seemed to me women younger liberal ones even more so tend to go though this cycle not of self discovery per say
but of trying to make themselves more and more of a victim like an adrenaline seeker seeking a high. I've yet to ever meet a trans
man who didn't go on to become some other self identity within a year.

What worries me more than anything is transgenderisms effect on kids, someone can try being gay get grossed out and
happily have a wife and kids, but with HRT the effects aren't reversible. Make no mistake trans advocates want HRT
to be as easy to buy as pain pills.

I think one of the main issues we face and one of the biggest ways to stop this is to help people understand why being a man is good.
If we continue to vilify men I fear this issue will never end.

"As sad as the story of many of the modern gays is, the story of the modern transsexual is the same in all ways, but worse... The story of the modern transsexual is the story of our collective future. " - Bap

 

[Kornula]

I'm gay... I *used* to be part of the gay "community" here in Alaska until election night 2016. That is when 85% of my friends at the gay bar instantly disowned me for not crying because Shillary lost. At the time, I was not on the Trump Train...but I was (and still am) very glad that evil cunt did not get in the white house again. That being said... when I was the only person not crying (and I literally was the only person not crying over a fucking election) I knew right then and there I would have to defend myself. And I was right. Most of my fellow gays nearly spat in my face that night. Some kept talking to me.. at least only on Facebook, but it was something Trump commented honeslty that Dr. Christine (super victim) Blasey-Ford could not remember when or where she was "sexually assaulted" ..but she was 100% sure it was Kavanaugh... the local "gay Moses" of Anchorage; an obnoxious troon at this point calls itself "Goldie Banks" posted the viceo clip of Trump being honest. Goldie said no one should recieve that much shame no matter what.

Naturally, my instant reply was "good, the lying sult deserves all the insults she gets.. even if its from the President"

Now, I am not even welcome in both the gay bars in the whole state.. The feeling is mutual.

 

[AMHOLIO]

It's always seemed to me women younger liberal ones even more so tend to go though this cycle not of self discovery per say
but of trying to make themselves more and more of a victim like an adrenaline seeker seeking a high. I've yet to ever meet a trans
man who didn't go on to become some other self identity within a year.

What worries me more than anything is transgenderisms effect on kids, someone can try being gay get grossed out and
happily have a wife and kids, but with HRT the effects aren't reversible. Make no mistake trans advocates want HRT
to be as easy to buy as pain pills.

I think one of the main issues we face and one of the biggest ways to stop this is to help people understand why being a man is good.
If we continue to vilify men I fear this issue will never end.

I feel like those women are the same kind that would be like "I'm not like other girls" years earlier. They're trying to find not themselves, but support and love by grabbing onto popular movements of oppression. "This is why people don't like me, pity me" and "I'm always bullied and never fit it, it's because I'm actually trans, it all makes sense" sort of deals. It's very sad.

I really hope as we get towards the decade long marker of this madness that most who detransitioned don't kill themselves. I want to see more people who go on with their lives in spite of their mistakes, and hopefully have voices to speak up when other people start detransing. It blows man.
Trans people wanting OTC hormones make me laugh. There's a reason you go to the doctor and have doctors visits, it's not to be told "oh you're looking so much more like a man/lady/nonbinary", it's so they can monitor whether you're going to get a bloodclot or other affliction as a side effect of the fucking hormones. A lot of these people are going to be fucking shocked when it turns out hormones have side effects other than making you look more like the other geneder, and half of that will be on the troon lobby trying to get informed consent into everyone's hands like the tards they are.

I think the same on the male troon end of the scale. I think another is better understanding of oneself & others if say they have autism.

I'm gay... I *used* to be part of the gay "community" here in Alaska until election night 2016. That is when 85% of my friends at the gay bar instantly disowned me for not crying because Shillary lost. At the time, I was not on the Trump Train...but I was (and still am) very glad that evil cunt did not get in the white house again. That being said... when I was the only person not crying (and I literally was the only person not crying over a fucking election) I knew right then and there I would have to defend myself. And I was right. Most of my fellow gays nearly spat in my face that night. Some kept talking to me.. at least only on Facebook, but it was something Trump commented honeslty that Dr. Christine (super victim) Blasey-Ford could not remember when or where she was "sexually assaulted" ..but she was 100% sure it was Kavanaugh... the local "gay Moses" of Anchorage; an obnoxious troon at this point calls itself "Goldie Banks" posted the viceo clip of Trump being honest. Goldie said no one should recieve that much shame no matter what.

Naturally, my instant reply was "good, the lying sult deserves all the insults she gets.. even if its from the President"

Now, I am not even welcome in both the gay bars in the whole state.. The feeling is mutual.

You live on spite and I kinda admire that. A hard ass bitch in a hard ass state.

You'd also think that considering your fucking state you'd have more gays who were republican or not die-hard blue. I guess those aren't the type to join up at the gay bars I suppose.

 

[Flavius Claudius Julianus]

Over half of voters know someone who has trooned out. Where do you people live, and what the hell is going on with your friend group?

Perhaps it's because I don't frequent or take part in any of the hotspot hobbies/circles where this happens - gaming, anime, being a stupid nigger et al; but I legitimately cannot think of a single person, no matter how far related, who has trooned out.

I'm sure it's just a matter of time though.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Over half of voters know someone who has trooned out. Where do you people live, and what the hell is going on with your friend group?

Perhaps it's because I don't frequent or take part in any of the hotspot hobbies/circles where this happens - gaming, anime, being a stupid nigger et al; but I legitimately cannot think of a single person, no matter how far related, who has trooned out.

I'm sure it's just a matter of time though.

A lot of people commenting here are under 30 and or LBG themselves. Under 30 means you're more likely to find people who troon out either in person or online since its how a small subset of our generation are coping, and LBG people gravitate to other gays, some who troon out. Kiwifarms users also are nerds who hang out with other socially awkward people IRL and in online communities, which is another troon factor.

I live in a big city and am surprised I don't see more troons, the only two I know IRL are a friend of a friend who I lost contact with a while ago and my friend in the OP who went to an art school college (so a heavy LBGT prescene already). Then again I tend to steer away from people who set off my crazy radar.

 

[glass_houses]

I don't know any troons personally but I'm spotting them out in the wild (Brisbane Australia) semi regularly. At least one a month, sometimes every week or two. Usually MTF, but I see FTM on occasion. What I find interesting about the MTFs is that apparently, bras aren't required garments for them. I'm short so usually the first thing I see is eye level tube tits, and then I look up to see a man face.

It's definitely a worldwide phenomena.

 

[RembrandtCourage]

A thought struck me recently. Does anyone have any old records of suicide rates among transgendered people before the 2010s when it seemed to really become a fad or an ultra low effort at changing themselves? I can't help but think that the 41% thing only recently came to be as more and more people came into this sort of thing in the 2010s

 

[Flavius Claudius Julianus]

A lot of people commenting here are under 30 and or LBG themselves. Under 30 means you're more likely to find people who troon out either in person or online since its how a small subset of our generation are coping, and LBG people gravitate to other gays, some who troon out. Kiwifarms users also are nerds who hang out with other socially awkward people IRL and in online communities, which is another troon factor.

I live in a big city and am surprised I don't see more troons, the only two I know IRL are a friend of a friend who I lost contact with a while ago and my friend in the OP who went to an art school college (so a heavy LBGT prescene already). Then again I tend to steer away from people who set off my crazy radar.

I'm just past 30, so maybe slightly out of the generation which this stuff is really hitting. But I live in the centre of a big city, and I do occasionally see troons 'in the wild,' especially as this is a trendy part of the city where leftie views and the LGBT scene are practically hand in hand. They're always invariably MtF, never anything else.

The fact that nerd culture predominates amongst these people does reinforce the idea that it's a byproduct of internet addiction and social isolation. It's always spergs and weaboos, gaming neckbeards and sundry losers who go in for this shit. Contrary to popular belief, you absolutely can be addicted to the internet/the online world.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

A lot of these retard troons could have been saved by some well timed bullying/parental beatings.

Sad! Many such cases.

 

[AMHOLIO]

A lot of these retard troons could have been saved by some well timed bullying/parental beatings.

Sad! Many such cases.

I know you're half joking, but I think that bullying has fucked up people towards trooning out. Someone who's seel confidience and people skills are shit are more likely to be at risk than any other group aside from sissy hypno porn enthusiasts. Tranistioning by Internet Trolling syndrome is one of our pseudoscientific terms for a reason.

Truthfully, a well timed bullying would push some people to anhero, which is all fine for pedo sex pest troons but for young guys and gals who can turn their life around it would be a shame.

Good parenting though is fucking crucial, even if everyone tries to shame you into fucking your kid's life over.