Do you think bullying is a necessary evil? - What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

[Cabelaz]

>be overweight soyboy in middle school
>get called an overweight soyboy
>man up and join football because I want change
>earn the respect of my bullies and most of the dudes at my school and make great memories
>still friends with them today
Yeah, bullying is pretty based.

 

[Whatevermancer]

The only reason for bullying is that it's fun, it's not about the victim being a nerd/weirdo/assburger, the bully is just an asshole. And I'm saying this as someone who used to bully people. I didn't realize how much of a douchebag I was until I got bullied myself, so I guess, bullying taught me compassion?
And calling someone a fatso for being a fatso is not bullying.

 

[Lina Colorado]

Bullying has made me stronger but at the same time more afraid to make a deeper human connection. I'm somewhat more bitter too.
I was never allowed to retaliate. When I did I got punished.

 

[Niggernerd]

Bullying in school should be around. Zoomers coming out like complete fragile faggots who want to off themselves because of meanie words they see on a computer screen.

 

[Bussyking7]

I will say that bullying can’t be tolerated if retaliation is not allowed. If the one being bullied has to “put up with it”, then you have a broken system. The bully needs to learn that people will draw the line and when you cross it you will get punched in the face. Since schools actually see retaliation as a bigger evil, we cannot have bullies in schools due to the fact that bullies get a free lunch.

Retaliation should never be allowed. Punching someone in the face because you don't like what they said is ridiculous. Granted, fighting back never works. Back when I was a bully, whenever kids decided to fight back, I always just upped the amount of bullying. Having someone hate you so much they want to fight you is hilarious.

 

[Wormy]

Retaliation should never be allowed. Punching someone in the face because you don't like what they said is ridiculous. Granted, fighting back never works. Back when I was a bully, whenever kids decided to fight back, I always just upped the amount of bullying. Having someone hate you so much they want to fight you is hilarious.

Talk shit, get hit.

That was the rule when I grew up, and I approve of it. My bullying stopped when I finally had enough and wailed on one with my bookbag until I was pulled off of him. Got suspended, but best suspension ever since my parents backed me.

You saying you'd up the ante if a kid you harassed suddenly busted you in the head and was clearly willing to do it again if you kept it up? That's speaks volumes about you, mate.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Bullying is utter shit, but the "anti bullying" measures taken by the school systems have had the complete opposite effect since day 1. Shitbag kids would game the system and get the kids they were bullying fucking demolished by gaming the system to look the victim. The spoiled ass kids that were bullies over a decade ago or so ago grew up to be soy chugging twitter commies and you cannot fucking convince me otherwise. After seeing what's claimed as "postitive changes" to the american school system these past 5 or 6 years, The situation is now 100X more fucked than it used to be for the kids getting screwed over than it was before. Fuck the system, I don't know how to fix this shit but seriously fuck this god damned system.

 

[Bussyking7]

Talk shit, get hit.

That was the rule when I grew up, and I approve of it. My bullying stopped when I finally had enough and wailed on one with my bookbag until I was pulled off of him. Got suspended, but best suspension ever since my parents backed me.

You saying you'd up the ante if a kid you harassed suddenly busted you in the head and was clearly willing to do it again if you kept it up? That's speaks volumes about you, mate.

Ever heard of sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me? If you resort to reverting back to apehood and attacking people cause your feelings got hurt, your bullies shouldn't have stopped. Thank God might makes right was long phased out of polite society.

When I bullied kids, I stayed clear of the psychopaths that would actually mess me up if they decided to snap. I could handle myself in a fight, so when losers like you started up with something like a book bag, we'd just laugh at you and get more ammunition for future taunting. The real way to get bullies like me to stop is to acknowledge how pathetic you are. If you agree with all our insults and put downs you've sapped the fun out of it. The whole goal is to elicit a reaction.

 

[Wormy]

Ever heard of sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me?

Yea. It's horseshit. Polite society, by the way, does not look kindly on harassing people verbally.

If you resort to reverting back to apehood and attacking people cause your feelings got hurt, your bullies shouldn't have stopped.

How many times does someone have to say your mother was a whore, your father took pozzed loads up the ass and how they want to rape you before one is allowed to respond?

And guess what. That was the only thing that got them to shut their mouths. Knowing someone will smack you one if you harass them is a GOOD THING.

When I bullied kids, I stayed clear of the psychopaths that would actually mess me up if they decided to snap. I could handle myself in a fight, so when losers like you started up with something like a book bag, we'd just laugh at you and get more ammunition for future taunting.

Even when you got wailed on by several pounds of science and history books? Is harassing someone worth getting smashed up like that? You a masochist?

The real way to get bullies like me to stop is to acknowledge how pathetic you are. If you agree with all our insults and put downs you've sapped the fun out of it. The whole goal is to elicit a reaction.

Yea, so why are you shocked when that reaction is for someone to fight back?

 

[StraightShooter2]

I think that some of it probably happens inevitably to everyone to some extent.

And that some people managed to deal with it well (while other people, like cows such as MovieBlob live the rest of their lives in self-pity and self-humiliation over it).

 

[Bussyking7]

Yea. It's horseshit. Polite society, by the way, does not look kindly on harassing people verbally.

Depends on the social circles you run in.

How many times does someone have to say your mother was a whore, your father took pozzed loads up the ass and how they want to rape you before one is allowed to respond?

Uh never?

And guess what. That was the only thing that got them to shut their mouths. Knowing someone will smack you one if you harass them is a GOOD THING.

Ah yes, becoming an enraged monkey over someone's speech is a great thing that society should strive for. Handle your problems like a man.

Even when you got wailed on by several pounds of science and history books? Is harassing someone worth getting smashed up like that? You a masochist?

Or I don't get smashed up. If, for whatever reason, I wouldn't be able to handle your pathetic attempts to hit me with a backpack, my friends would just jump in and help. Then we'd all have a big laugh at your expense.

Yea, so why are you shocked when that reaction is for someone to fight back?

I'm not shocked. I've had plenty of people fight back physically. I just find it ridiculous that people think that's morally acceptable.

 

[Wormy]

Depends on the social circles you run in.

I haven't found a one that encourages people to yell at strangers about how their mothers are whores. Did you?

Uh never?

How privleged of you. You get to act like an ape towards people, but they're not allowed to respond? You really think people are going to stay to a lopsided paradigm like that? Get real.

\Ah yes, becoming an enraged monkey over someone's speech is a great thing that society should strive for. Handle your problems like a man.

I did just that. Also, you act like I resorted to violence as the first step. No. This was only after all other routes were exhausted.

And do tell, why did it work?

Or I don't get smashed up. If, for whatever reason, I wouldn't be able to handle your pathetic attempts to hit me with a backpack, my friends would just jump in and help. Then we'd all have a big laugh at your expense.

True, I'd likely take a beating myself, but you know what? At least you know that doing it again will get you hurt regardless of the outcome. I don't mind having matching black eyes. Now I ask again, is it worth getting hurt to just keep acting like a jackass to someone?

I'm not shocked. I've had plenty of people fight back physically. I just find it ridiculous that people think that's morally acceptable.

But you find it morally acceptable to harass them? Is your self entitlement so grand that you think you're untouchable because you say so?

 

[Bussyking7]

I haven't found a one that encourages people to yell at strangers about how their mothers are whores. Did you?

You really should get out more.

How privleged of you. You get to act like an ape towards people, but they're not allowed to respond? You really think people are going to stay to a lopsided paradigm like that? Get real.

I stopped bullying people when they actually improved themselves to the point I had nothing left to bully them for or they learned to accept their garbage characteristics and stop giving me reactions. In either case they bettered themselves. Bullying really is a symbiotic relationship. I got to have lots of fun, and in some cases people actually improved (not that I cared though). The paradigm isn't lopsided at all.

And do tell, why did it work?

You clearly had garbage bullies.

True, I'd likely take a beating myself, but you know what? At least you know that doing it again will get you hurt regardless of the outcome. I don't mind having matching black eyes. Now I ask again, is it worth getting hurt to just keep acting like a jackass to someone?

In every instance that I was attacked by someone that I bullied, I continued bullying them, and in every instance they never attacked me again. Working up the courage to attack someone only for the attack to be laughed off and for the bullying to increase is very demoralizing.

But you find it morally acceptable to harass them? Is your self entitlement so grand that you think you're untouchable because you say so?

I honestly see nothing wrong with pillorying people that deserve it. Especially people that think it's ok to attack someone over what they said. Physical violence causes real harm, words are nothing.

 

[Wormy]

You really should get out more.

Better question; WHY would I want to get involved with people who think it's good fun to harass strangers?

I stopped bullying people when they actually improved themselves to the point I had nothing left to bully them for or they learned to accept their garbage characteristics and stop giving me reactions. In either case they bettered themselves. Bullying really is a symbiotic relationship. I got to have lots of fun, and in some cases people actually improved (not that I cared though). The paradigm isn't lopsided at all.

Yes, it is. They didn't ask for you giving them shit. You have no authority to give them shit. They didn't pay for it. You decided to just give them shit.

You clearly had garbage bullies.

Unlike you, they were smart enough to realize that screaming insults at someone isn't worth getting your head busted.

Working up the courage to attack someone only for the attack to be laughed off and for the bullying to increase is very demoralizing.

That's why when you attack, you don't hold back. This isn't a boxing match, after all. Use a weapon. Go for the nuts. Make it HURT. I wasn't wanting to beat them in a contest, I was trying to hurt them.

I honestly see nothing wrong with pillorying people that deserve it. Especially people that think it's ok to attack someone over what they said. Physical violence causes real harm, words are nothing.

So someone deserves it for wearing glasses or being the wrong race? They deserve it for being related to someone you don't like? They deserve it because they engage in hobbies you don't like? You are not in the moral authority to harass people and not expect retaliation. Go up to strangers on the street and call their mothers whores. You'll not have people say "thank you sir, I will work on myself to improve that fact." You'll get ignored at best, and your ass kicked at worst. Both are richly deserved for harassing.

THAT is society. Not people screaming at each other and demanding no retaliation.

 

[Bussyking7]

Better question; WHY would I want to get involved with people who think it's good fun to harass strangers?

Yes, it is. They didn't ask for you giving them shit. You have no authority to give them shit. They didn't pay for it. You decided to just give them shit.

Unlike you, they were smart enough to realize that screaming insults at someone isn't worth getting your head busted.

That's why when you attack, you don't hold back. This isn't a boxing match, after all. Use a weapon. Go for the nuts. Make it HURT. I wasn't wanting to beat them in a contest, I was trying to hurt them.

So someone deserves it for wearing glasses or being the wrong race? They deserve it for being related to someone you don't like? They deserve it because they engage in hobbies you don't like? You are not in the moral authority to harass people and not expect retaliation. Go up to strangers on the street and call their mothers whores. You'll not have people say "thank you sir, I will work on myself to improve that fact." You'll get ignored at best, and your ass kicked at worst. Both are richly deserved for harassing.

THAT is society. Not people screaming at each other and demanding no retaliation.

Words don't hurt people. If some random stranger called my mother a whore, why would I care? It's not true. If it were true, what's the big deal if it's the truth.

The fact is that there are a lot of morally deficient people such as yourself out there that have garbage character traits and can't handle being called out on it. Words are meaningless drivel. You should never harm anyone over something that doesn't negatively hurt anyone. It's not ok to go around punching people that pose no threat to you. This is basic stuff.

 

[ArnoldPalmer]

If I wasn't bullied, I'd probably be on the other side of the looking glass. So, fuck yes. The people who don't learn from bullying just aren't being bullied enough, Teach your kids to pay attention to what they do and how to read a room, and they won't wind up naruto running to class.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

I've found that the worst bullies were those in the middle of the pecking order. The most popular kids never had to bully because they had no reason to punch down, while the kids just below the popular kids were always trying to push themselves up by kicking down on those below them. There's also an element of social cohesion to bullying - just like chimps who hunt helpless colobus monkeys as a show of solidarity with each other, bullies will attack the weakest and most vulnerable tards as a way to bond with each other.

 

[L50LasPak]

I'd like to think there's a less destructive way of teaching people some humility, but at the rate things are going even if I had a foolproof example it would presumably never be adopted because the system is in shambles.

 

[Noir drag freak]

Looking back I can honestly say that maybe around 75% of the bullying that happened to me was deserved due to my own self-loathing,insecurity, and lack of self-awareness. Like I would say inflammatory things to get a rise out of people. I was somewhat effeminate and gender non-conforming . I also was very defensive around other guys my age and rebuff their attempt at building a friendship. To make matters even worse, I wouldn't join class and group bonding activities. That made me an easy target. To be fair, I should have had the self-awareness to be more friendly and watch how I was coming off. But I was more warped up in my own insecurities and ignorance to come to those insights.


ETA: I think that maybe I would have been bully less if I had a mentor or ideal to strive towards. Most of school years were spent in "flight vs fight" that I didn't take the time to look at my environment.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

All the anti-bully shit may be well-intentioned by at least some of the people pushing it. But I've concluded that it's yet another utopian effort to rewrite human nature, particularly male nature. It only results in male bullies turning to feminine passive aggression and ostracism. Or at least waiting until there's no authorities around.