Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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I know this is standard with Lilly's writing, but remove the names from this story and honestly tell me you can understand which character is who. This is like if someone unironically wrote Darth Vader saying the "Yo dudes, the Empire is cool!" outside of Detours.
This kind of schmaltz really exemplifies what Lily wants. She doesn't want to write World of Warcraft fanfiction, she writes about how she and her waifu are in lesbians with each other.

AU fanfic where you re-interpret characters as being in 'real life' is hardly a new concept, but generally speaking the authors have some fun with reinterpreting everybody's crazy fantasy backstory into something sensible, and then still adhering (best they can, I know I'm talking about fanfiction) to the original characters. It says a lot that Lily is using her own OC as one of these 'real life' characters. She should've just written a vignette about herself and her hot girlfriend Syv...ia. Nas.

The part where the two are indistinguishable is, of course, the icing-- she doesn't even want to fuck Sylvanas, she wants to fuck a costume of Sylvanas that's being worn by a clone of herself. It's been brought up before but it bears repeating; Lily just wants to date somebody who is her but subservient.

Regarding the Anuin-as-Rapist thing... ugh.

I don't know Warcraft outside of what's been said in this thread. I'm not going to weigh in on characterization. The problem is that she's using rape as a dramatic point and it's disgusting.

Rape can be used effectively as a plot point (the movie Super features a distressing but thematically powerful rape scene near its climax) or as a way of informing a character (Lisbeth from The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was raped when she was younger, but this doesn't define her identity) or even as a tragedy in a character's life (Alina -- not to be confused with Aliana -- from Pillars of the Earth is raped in the first third of the book, and it's terrible, but the book takes place over decades and her life goes on and it's never used to try and force sympathy again). It can be.

But 99 times out of 100 it's a cheap way of adding drama and making sure the audience knows how evil the villain is. Recursively, I've seen it used in fanfiction to say 'well, this character is evil, therefore he MUST also be a rapist'.

Alternatively, to impart artificial sympathy for the survivor. It's used so often as a dark twist in female character backstories because it's cheap and easy and horrific and makes you feel sad. In this case it looks like it's being set up to both make sure Andiun is definitely evil you guys, make Anevay vulnerable and sympathetic, and make Sylvanas a badass who will get revenge and then turn into a hurt-comfort moment between her and Anevay. And it's so... insulting to people who have actually been assaulted, to just turn this horrific experience into fodder for your shitty World of Warcraft fanfic.

And like I said, actual, legitimate, good authors can rarely get away with it, because it's always treated as just a plot device for those above reasons. Even people with the best of intentions basically turn it into a revenge fanasy where the romantic interests reaction is more important than what actually happened to the survivor. And sometimes it's even worse (Margaret Atwood wrote a gang rape as part of the opener for MaddAddam and managed to turn it into a positive experience because the girls had cute babies. What the actual fuck, Atwood).

It's not that people hate you specifically, Lily. Almost anybody who just throws in rape for shock value is called out on it. Fanfiction writers, novelists, screenwriters-- it's a subject that very few people ever get right. You aren't being singled out, Lily. You're being warned.
 
After reading all this deranged shit, I want to believe he said this in earnest.
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This is just her typical ‘I’m so self-loathing’ garbage. It makes her come across as desperate for attention and annoying rather than genuinely sincere.
This kind of schmaltz really exemplifies what Lily wants. She doesn't want to write World of Warcraft fanfiction, she writes about how she and her waifu are in lesbians with each other.

AU fanfic where you re-interpret characters as being in 'real life' is hardly a new concept, but generally speaking the authors have some fun with reinterpreting everybody's crazy fantasy backstory into something sensible, and then still adhering (best they can, I know I'm talking about fanfiction) to the original characters. It says a lot that Lily is using her own OC as one of these 'real life' characters. She should've just written a vignette about herself and her hot girlfriend Syv...ia. Nas.

The part where the two are indistinguishable is, of course, the icing-- she doesn't even want to fuck Sylvanas, she wants to fuck a costume of Sylvanas that's being worn by a clone of herself. It's been brought up before but it bears repeating; Lily just wants to date somebody who is her but subservient.

Regarding the Anuin-as-Rapist thing... ugh.

I don't know Warcraft outside of what's been said in this thread. I'm not going to weigh in on characterization. The problem is that she's using rape as a dramatic point and it's disgusting.

Rape can be used effectively as a plot point (the movie Super features a distressing but thematically powerful rape scene near its climax) or as a way of informing a character (Lisbeth from The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was raped when she was younger, but this doesn't define her identity) or even as a tragedy in a character's life (Alina -- not to be confused with Aliana -- from Pillars of the Earth is raped in the first third of the book, and it's terrible, but the book takes place over decades and her life goes on and it's never used to try and force sympathy again). It can be.

But 99 times out of 100 it's a cheap way of adding drama and making sure the audience knows how evil the villain is. Recursively, I've seen it used in fanfiction to say 'well, this character is evil, therefore he MUST also be a rapist'.

Alternatively, to impart artificial sympathy for the survivor. It's used so often as a dark twist in female character backstories because it's cheap and easy and horrific and makes you feel sad. In this case it looks like it's being set up to both make sure Andiun is definitely evil you guys, make Anevay vulnerable and sympathetic, and make Sylvanas a badass who will get revenge and then turn into a hurt-comfort moment between her and Anevay. And it's so... insulting to people who have actually been assaulted, to just turn this horrific experience into fodder for your shitty World of Warcraft fanfic.

And like I said, actual, legitimate, good authors can rarely get away with it, because it's always treated as just a plot device for those above reasons. Even people with the best of intentions basically turn it into a revenge fanasy where the romantic interests reaction is more important than what actually happened to the survivor. And sometimes it's even worse (Margaret Atwood wrote a gang rape as part of the opener for MaddAddam and managed to turn it into a positive experience because the girls had cute babies. What the actual fuck, Atwood).

It's not that people hate you specifically, Lily. Almost anybody who just throws in rape for shock value is called out on it. Fanfiction writers, novelists, screenwriters-- it's a subject that very few people ever get right. You aren't being singled out, Lily. You're being warned.
Exactly. Lily is only writing rape as a plot point in her fanfiction for two reasons: A) In order to demonize Anduin, who she dislikes purely for being a member of the alliance + being treated better by the writers than her undead waifu and B) To validate her own experiences and hatred of her ‘abusers’ by writing a ridiculous revenge fantasy.

Lily does not have the writing skills or emotional depth to explore actually serious topics, we’ve seen this constantly with Stockholm. She should stick to writing fluff or, preferably, just never write again but that’s too much to hope for.

At least this trainwreck will be fun to mock.
 
This kind of schmaltz really exemplifies what Lily wants. She doesn't want to write World of Warcraft fanfiction, she writes about how she and her waifu are in lesbians with each other.

AU fanfic where you re-interpret characters as being in 'real life' is hardly a new concept, but generally speaking the authors have some fun with reinterpreting everybody's crazy fantasy backstory into something sensible, and then still adhering (best they can, I know I'm talking about fanfiction) to the original characters. It says a lot that Lily is using her own OC as one of these 'real life' characters. She should've just written a vignette about herself and her hot girlfriend Syv...ia. Nas.

The part where the two are indistinguishable is, of course, the icing-- she doesn't even want to fuck Sylvanas, she wants to fuck a costume of Sylvanas that's being worn by a clone of herself. It's been brought up before but it bears repeating; Lily just wants to date somebody who is her but subservient.

Regarding the Anuin-as-Rapist thing... ugh.

I don't know Warcraft outside of what's been said in this thread. I'm not going to weigh in on characterization. The problem is that she's using rape as a dramatic point and it's disgusting.

Rape can be used effectively as a plot point (the movie Super features a distressing but thematically powerful rape scene near its climax) or as a way of informing a character (Lisbeth from The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was raped when she was younger, but this doesn't define her identity) or even as a tragedy in a character's life (Alina -- not to be confused with Aliana -- from Pillars of the Earth is raped in the first third of the book, and it's terrible, but the book takes place over decades and her life goes on and it's never used to try and force sympathy again). It can be.

But 99 times out of 100 it's a cheap way of adding drama and making sure the audience knows how evil the villain is. Recursively, I've seen it used in fanfiction to say 'well, this character is evil, therefore he MUST also be a rapist'.

Alternatively, to impart artificial sympathy for the survivor. It's used so often as a dark twist in female character backstories because it's cheap and easy and horrific and makes you feel sad. In this case it looks like it's being set up to both make sure Andiun is definitely evil you guys, make Anevay vulnerable and sympathetic, and make Sylvanas a badass who will get revenge and then turn into a hurt-comfort moment between her and Anevay. And it's so... insulting to people who have actually been assaulted, to just turn this horrific experience into fodder for your shitty World of Warcraft fanfic.

And like I said, actual, legitimate, good authors can rarely get away with it, because it's always treated as just a plot device for those above reasons. Even people with the best of intentions basically turn it into a revenge fanasy where the romantic interests reaction is more important than what actually happened to the survivor. And sometimes it's even worse (Margaret Atwood wrote a gang rape as part of the opener for MaddAddam and managed to turn it into a positive experience because the girls had cute babies. What the actual fuck, Atwood).

It's not that people hate you specifically, Lily. Almost anybody who just throws in rape for shock value is called out on it. Fanfiction writers, novelists, screenwriters-- it's a subject that very few people ever get right. You aren't being singled out, Lily. You're being warned.
You're clearly know about how Rape in writing is tedious and complex.
The most near thing i wrote was a intent of raping a main character viewed by the protagonist only seconds before the violation. I planned writing something better in detail earlier but i can't. Like your example with Pillars of the Earths, is a actual reason of the meeting and a more "pillar" of all the tragedy she had (is the most complex character in all the novel, more than the protagonist itself but only because of the circunstancies i wrote); getting blind in a explosion, her father dissapeared in the attack, all her family is dead and so.
Later in the novel i planned a final fate between her and her father, but again; more tragedy happens and that part is one of the reasons of a real broken personality she gonna have, since earlier in the novel, she had the typical cheerful personality, despite all her problems.
With Lily... simply no. She; using rape as a excuse is a problem.
PD: IF this comment doesn't make sense, tell me. I'm gonna edit this soon as posible.
 
Best case scenario is Lily goes through with the rape plot, gets too much shit for it, and tries to ret-con/downplay it like she did with the Violate arc.

difference is at least the Gardevoir rape was mostly metaphorical, but if she actually has Anevay raped by Anduin’s actual penis, it’s going to be a lot harder to backpedal on, sans pretending it doesn’t exist.
It really is a warning, Lily. People will NOT take kindly to it. So just don’t. It’s really easy to NOT make Anduin rape your OC
 
Best case scenario is Lily goes through with the rape plot, gets too much shit for it, and tries to ret-con/downplay it like she did with the Violate arc.

difference is at least the Gardevoir rape was mostly metaphorical, but if she actually has Anevay raped by Anduin’s actual penis, it’s going to be a lot harder to backpedal on, sans pretending it doesn’t exist.
It really is a warning, Lily. People will NOT take kindly to it. So just don’t. It’s really easy to NOT make Anduin rape your OC
Note : At this point, Anduin has shown exactly one line of romantic inclinations in The game or books, and that was something of a throwaway line that was never really explored so at most the sexuality that Anduin has shown is

"I might have possibly had a crush on a Dwarf Gal..4 years ago."

The fact that Lily is jumping directly to Anduin raping her OC is fucking vile.
 
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Alright, so a few days ago I exposed in greater extent of Jerry/Lily’s samefagging which seemed to have slightly, focus on slightly, calmed down over the years since the Tara Callie incident of 2013.

So, I’ve decided to experiment with this.
I’m going to submit a few questions to Jerry’s beloved Q&A page, just to see what he actually responds to, mind you, this is not a trolling attempt, I am simply testing if my accusations are correct.

Stay Tuned, Lurkers.
 
A lot of depictions of rape in fiction can be distasteful, but I still wouldn’t say “never show rape, ever.” It’d be more productive to suggest authors and creators be mindful in when and how rape is portrayed.


I don’t believe Lily Orchard to be capable of such mindfulness. She just wanted an easy way to villainize this male character further. It’s lazy.
 
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This kind of schmaltz really exemplifies what Lily wants. She doesn't want to write World of Warcraft fanfiction, she writes about how she and her waifu are in lesbians with each other.

AU fanfic where you re-interpret characters as being in 'real life' is hardly a new concept, but generally speaking the authors have some fun with reinterpreting everybody's crazy fantasy backstory into something sensible, and then still adhering (best they can, I know I'm talking about fanfiction) to the original characters. It says a lot that Lily is using her own OC as one of these 'real life' characters. She should've just written a vignette about herself and her hot girlfriend Syv...ia. Nas.

The part where the two are indistinguishable is, of course, the icing-- she doesn't even want to fuck Sylvanas, she wants to fuck a costume of Sylvanas that's being worn by a clone of herself. It's been brought up before but it bears repeating; Lily just wants to date somebody who is her but subservient.

Regarding the Anuin-as-Rapist thing... ugh.

I don't know Warcraft outside of what's been said in this thread. I'm not going to weigh in on characterization. The problem is that she's using rape as a dramatic point and it's disgusting.

Rape can be used effectively as a plot point (the movie Super features a distressing but thematically powerful rape scene near its climax) or as a way of informing a character (Lisbeth from The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was raped when she was younger, but this doesn't define her identity) or even as a tragedy in a character's life (Alina -- not to be confused with Aliana -- from Pillars of the Earth is raped in the first third of the book, and it's terrible, but the book takes place over decades and her life goes on and it's never used to try and force sympathy again). It can be.

But 99 times out of 100 it's a cheap way of adding drama and making sure the audience knows how evil the villain is. Recursively, I've seen it used in fanfiction to say 'well, this character is evil, therefore he MUST also be a rapist'.

Alternatively, to impart artificial sympathy for the survivor. It's used so often as a dark twist in female character backstories because it's cheap and easy and horrific and makes you feel sad. In this case it looks like it's being set up to both make sure Andiun is definitely evil you guys, make Anevay vulnerable and sympathetic, and make Sylvanas a badass who will get revenge and then turn into a hurt-comfort moment between her and Anevay. And it's so... insulting to people who have actually been assaulted, to just turn this horrific experience into fodder for your shitty World of Warcraft fanfic.

And like I said, actual, legitimate, good authors can rarely get away with it, because it's always treated as just a plot device for those above reasons. Even people with the best of intentions basically turn it into a revenge fanasy where the romantic interests reaction is more important than what actually happened to the survivor. And sometimes it's even worse (Margaret Atwood wrote a gang rape as part of the opener for MaddAddam and managed to turn it into a positive experience because the girls had cute babies. What the actual fuck, Atwood).

It's not that people hate you specifically, Lily. Almost anybody who just throws in rape for shock value is called out on it. Fanfiction writers, novelists, screenwriters-- it's a subject that very few people ever get right. You aren't being singled out, Lily. You're being warned.
Yeah Lily does not know how to write rape. Look at this from earlier, her fans are wringing their hands over how bad this will look for Anduin and how traumatic it will be.
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Lily if rape is so bad why are you excited to write it? Why do you always write it? There are other ways to validate and comfort a character.
 
Yeah Lily does not know how to write rape. Look at this from earlier, her fans are wringing their hands over how bad this will look for Anduin and how traumatic it will be.
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Lily if rape is so bad why are you excited to write it? Why do you always write it? There are other ways to validate and comfort a character.
I feel like lily's own writing tips need to be reiterated back to her:
http://archive.md/bnIEb
(83) Rape is an unforgivable crime, more so than killing. Killing can potentially be justified in a story without becoming a villain. Rape cannot.
(84) Sex scenes are never necessary. You want to include one because you're horny, then more power to you. But any attempt to justify it as "important to the story" will only get you laughed at.
Now I know she would argue 'but I didn't say never use rape in a story' but ultimately her fans need to look at the fact most of her stories contain aspects of rape, or at least sexual assault, and they need to really think about writing tip number 84.
Lily it's ok if you have a rape fetish, stop pushing it onto your fans and loudly declaring you don't though.
 
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Because nothing says "lesbian" quite like also totally being into guys, amirite?
my understanding of bi/pan lesbians are people who are female bi/pan but have a heavy lean towards daing other females.

its weird because surely thats just erasing yout bisexual/pansexual identity by claiming 'no no, really, i'm a lezbiun guyzz even tho i still date those horrible men you all hate so much'

its just weird but eeeehhh its mainly used for bi/pan females who heavily lean towards women.
 
This is horrendously disgusting but I don't feel like I have to say why.

Heres the chapter for anyone who was wondering/wanted to read it:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/29982102/chapters/74605158
https://archive.md/WSkdC
The first part is a short snippet of Anevay one-shotting a bunch of the ebon blade knights such as Sally Whitemane, Nazgrim, and Darion Mograine. She can't even write a full sentence of any of them fighting back. Anevay just shows up, kills a bunch of them, talks shit for a couple minutes, then keeps killing. This part I thought was especially bad:
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Directly after she one shots the four horsemen there's a few lines about how much Anevay and Sylvanas are in love and how good of a lap dog Anevay is for Sylvanas, doing all of her dirty work for her.

About halfway through the chapter it jumps to Anduin, Silysa Bladewing (alliance champion), and Jaina. They all talk about how strong and scary Anevay is for a bit and then there's a few lines of just pure fluff between Silysa and Jaina (who I believe are dating?) despite them being in the middle of a war council meeting. Anduin dismisses Silysa and Jaina out of jealousy.

Here's the one thing that I think is interesting about this fic:
It describes Anduins jealousy of Jaina and Silysa and how he envies the bond they are able to share with one another. I like the concept they were going for. Anduin grew up very sheltered and was kept away from growing up with other children around his age. He doesn't even really have friends, the most he has is mentors and political allies, especially after the death of Varian. I love this concept; Making a fic out of Anduin trying to come to terms with the fact that he doesn't really know what a healthy friendship is like, let alone a healthy romantic partner. Learning how to find and protect those things would probably make for a very good story. I think this is why so many people like to pair Anduin with Wrathion. They're two very different characters but they have good chemistry, both of them are young, and both have the burden of trying to carry on their fathers legacies. All in all having Anduin being jealous of a good and healthy relationship is a good concept and if given to the right person I believe it could be carried out quite well.

But of course Lily and Mik didn't go down that path as we all know. No, instead what they opted for was to have the ghost of Onyxia, or at least her voice, corrupt Anduin through sheer loneliness.
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Apparently this is why Anduin is going to rape and abuse Anevay, because he's an incel haunted and degraded by a dragon lady, I guess.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised since Lily and Mik probably do believe that all men deep down are irredeemable if just pushed a little too far in one direction but it still genuinely upsets me that they can read this and think that this is an ok way to bastardize a character and more or less a whole host of men with intimacy issues. I get why she's doing it, I know its because she believes this is what happened to Sylvanas (and to a lesser extent abuse/rape survivors) but Anduin and Sylvanas are in no way comparable when it comes to being deserving of certain fates.

Anyway heres a couple of posts from Mik to add to the discourse:
https://archive.md/3GpE3
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https://archive.md/8TIIw
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This is horrendously disgusting but I don't feel like I have to say why.

Heres the chapter for anyone who was wondering/wanted to read it:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/29982102/chapters/74605158
https://archive.md/WSkdC
The first part is a short snippet of Anevay one-shotting a bunch of the ebon blade knights such as Sally Whitemane, Nazgrim, and Darion Mograine. She can't even write a full sentence of any of them fighting back. Anevay just shows up, kills a bunch of them, talks shit for a couple minutes, then keeps killing. This part I thought was especially bad:
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Directly after she one shots the four horsemen there's a few lines about how much Anevay and Sylvanas are in love and how good of a lap dog Anevay is for Sylvanas, doing all of her dirty work for her.

About halfway through the chapter it jumps to Anduin, Silysa Bladewing (alliance champion), and Jaina. They all talk about how strong and scary Anevay is for a bit and then there's a few lines of just pure fluff between Silysa and Jaina (who I believe are dating?) despite them being in the middle of a war council meeting. Anduin dismisses Silysa and Jaina out of jealousy.

Here's the one thing that I think is interesting about this fic:
It describes Anduins jealousy of Jaina and Silysa and how he envies the bond they are able to share with one another. I like the concept they were going for. Anduin grew up very sheltered and was kept away from growing up with other children around his age. He doesn't even really have friends, the most he has is mentors and political allies, especially after the death of Varian. I love this concept; Making a fic out of Anduin trying to come to terms with the fact that he doesn't really know what a healthy friendship is like, let alone a healthy romantic partner. Learning how to find and protect those things would probably make for a very good story. I think this is why so many people like to pair Anduin with Wrathion. They're two very different characters but they have good chemistry, both of them are young, and both have the burden of trying to carry on their fathers legacies. All in all having Anduin being jealous of a good and healthy relationship is a good concept and if given to the right person I believe it could be carried out quite well.

But of course Lily and Mik didn't go down that path as we all know. No, instead what they opted for was to have the ghost of Onyxia, or at least her voice, corrupt Anduin through sheer loneliness.
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Apparently this is why Anduin is going to rape and abuse Anevay, because he's an incel haunted and degraded by a dragon lady, I guess.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised since Lily and Mik probably do believe that all men deep down are irredeemable if just pushed a little too far in one direction but it still genuinely upsets me that they can read this and think that this is an ok way to bastardize a character and more or less a whole host of men with intimacy issues. I get why she's doing it, I know its because she believes this is what happened to Sylvanas (and to a lesser extent abuse/rape survivors) but Anduin and Sylvanas are in no way comparable when it comes to being deserving of certain fates.

Anyway heres a couple of posts from Mik to add to the discourse:
https://archive.md/3GpE3
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https://archive.md/8TIIw
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so they know that this is out of character for Anduin, but they just don’t care and admit they’re doing out of spite

contrary to the previous narrative that this was the "real" Anduin that everyone was too misogynist to admit

this is not going from point A to B, this is going from point ∀ to R ***
 
contrary to the previous narrative that this was the "real" Anduin that everyone was too misogynist to admit
Reminder that the "real" Anduin sees forsaken as people and actively reached out to Sylvanas to try and reunite families that were broken by the scourge so that at minimum some of the forsaken know their families are okay, and he was brought to the realization that forsaken might be actual people by seeing one get exploded by a bomb planted in a Tavern by one of Garrosh's Gestapo.

So to recap "THE REAL" Anduin sees sentient undead as real people but hates women for no reason.

Sorry for shitting up the thread with WoW stuff, but to know how stupid all this shit is requires context that I imagine many of ya'll don't have.
 
TOTV, Horde Champion, and Pokemadhouse, can't forget bout Violate ;)

Also Stockholm, even though that's statutory rape lmao

But Christ dude, what's your obsession with rape? For someone who was so incredibly traumatized by their numerous totally real instances of rape and abuse, he sure loves to portray it in his stories so very much, and it's all the more sus that it's a character he doesn't like lmfao
 
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