Melanie Herring / Purplekecleon / PK / PapayaKitty / GlitchedPuppet / Ash Hazel Woods / Floraverse - Abusive, manipulative SJW artist whose ex-husband fucked a dog and teenagers and whose current husband thinks he's trans because of a TF fetish, admitted to fucking two dogs and letting her cat eat her out

[TheInfamousJ]

For now, I've posted a pdf of what I have so far. The video's temp name will be "PK vs. The Truth". I've still got a lot of PK's bullshit that you guys have graciously posted on here to go through. But the objective is to fill it with mostly proof that can't possibly be refuted. Lemme know what you guys think!

I noticed you needed sources on Autism manifests differently in women then men so here they are:

Spoiler: Autism Sources

https://archive.is/D63Uc

Noticeable quote:
"The researchers report that autism characteristics in girls depend on their level of intelligence. “On the lower end, they tend to have more social communication impairment and lower cognitive ability” than boys who have the disorder, says study leader Thomas Frazier, director of the Center for Autism at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio. “On the higher end, they have fewer restricted interests.”

These differences may make it tricky for parents, teachers and doctors to recognize the signs of autism in girls."

CNN handled this kind of stupidly and sexistly (treating Autistics like they aren't even human), but they do have something on it, even if they are as capable of handling the subject as a bison is at arranging a china shop:
https://archive.is/zhOml

Notable Quote:
"An intriguing finding is that perhaps higher-functioning girls with ASD are missed by clinicians who are not experts in diagnosis. There is some evidence that among this subgroup, girls have better social skills than higher-functioning boys with ASD and so are not diagnosed as readily."

Side note:
"Often, the symptoms of ASD appear as extreme shyness or anxiety in girls, masking that they may not be responsive to the social cues of others. And while fixated interests are common in both sexes on the autism spectrum, girls tend to focus on topics such as on ponies, princesses, dolls or drawings -- common passions for non-autistic girls, too. Boys, on the other hand, may become stuck on less typical activities, such as lining up blocks or running sand through their fingers. As a result, doctors may miss that some of their female patients show signs of autism."

Oh for fuck's sake, CNN, you're a news organization. "They like ponies!" how about "they react more positively to societal subtle stimulation, and norms, picking it up better then their male counterparts". You're a shame to reporters and news everywhere, CNN, I just want you to know this.

By the way if you think this is nitpicking:
https://archive.is/UhEVq

"She added: "Girls can be more adaptive than boys and can develop strategies that often mask what we traditionally think of as the signs of autism.
"This "masking" can lead to a great deal of stress, and many girls go on to develop secondary problems such as anxiety, eating disorders or depression.
"It's important that we build on this study and more research is conducted into the way autism manifests in girls and women, so that we can ensure that gender does not remain a barrier to diagnosis and getting the right support.""

The Autism isn't the cause of the anxiety or extreme shyness (it's the catalyst, not the cause), may have wanted to point that out CNN. Nah, just say those two things are synonymous (seriously, there is so much wrong with the CNN source, take it with a grain of salt).

Hope that helps.

...And yet that current porn comic with Orobas and Beleth is chock-full of fail innuendos and gross sexual jokes. God PK, do you ever actually practice what you preach?

I can not recall a single moment where they ever have, not one. Maybe there is one, but I can't recall it.

 

[Malady Twigs]

I'm sorry for the double post, guys. But it seemed kind of important for it.
Another anon came forward with this

I just... PK acted awfully in every single one of those conversations. No one really said anything wrong to her, and yet, she spilled bile everywhere, acted like an obnoxious brat and pretty much threatened people for absolutely no reason.

She is driven by nothing but raw emotion. There is no rationality and logic inside her brain. Won't her asskissers ever grow tired of her antics? I mean, surely everyone has their limits for taking in so much undeserved bullshit.

Also, she's admiting Eevee and Marl are worthless pieces of shit, how is she capable of being such a hypocrite by telling she's been in a HAPPY relationship for how-many years? Come on!

Also, a suggestion for a floraverse parody: Faunaverse. If floraverse has stuff all made from plants, the Faunaverse has stuff made from animals. Like, crazy Lovecraftian horror shit with eyes and tentacles everywhere. Give PK's demon characters a real home amongst proper monsters, man.
(I would sketch examples if I could draw, but the only artsy thing I am good at is writing.)

I'm all up for it. If people start drawing these monstrosities, I'll gladly join in.

I'm gonna get a lot of hate for being that guy, but I think her designs are kinda alright. I sorta like them . Partly due to me enjoying the surreal monsters in Yume Nikki and .flow. But then again, they aren't that much as clusterfuck to the eye as PK's are. (PK is still human trash, though)

She is not incapable of coming up with interesting character designs. If you like colorful 'elemental' monsters Pokemon-style, then there's a chance you will like PK's stuff. The problem with PK's is that she tries to blend in cartoonish mechanics to her kemono things and sometimes the combination just comes off wrong.

 

[Remilia]

She is not incapable of coming up with interesting character designs. If you like colorful 'elemental' monsters Pokemon-style, then there's a chance you will like PK's stuff. The problem with PK's is that she tries to blend in cartoonish mechanics to her kemono things and sometimes the combination just comes off wrong.

Yeah, I didn't like that bug-rabbit thing.

 

[OldInternetMeme]

I'm gonna get a lot of hate for being that guy, but I think her designs are kinda alright. I sorta like them . Partly due to me enjoying the surreal monsters in Yume Nikki and .flow. But then again, they aren't that much as clusterfuck to the eye as PK's are. (PK is still human trash, though)

I like the designs of some of her characters, too. I like her Alice and Jackie characters. They're simple, yet are unique enough to tell them apart from other characters. However, the majority of her shit is just clumsy and overdesigned. A good example would be what @Galaxy Harasser said, the manticores. Here is what the mythical creature is supposed to look like, and here is PK's abomination.

 

[SlurpleSpeckleon]

In regards to the innuendos in her porn comics, I went back to the forbiddenflora site to see if I could find any.
I couldn't find the Beleth and Orobas comic, but the first page I saw ended with "That's good. Cum for mama!" NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE SO MUCH NOPE.

 

[Galaxy Harasser]

Huh. That's odd. It's Friday and PK hasn't posted today's update.

Do you guys want to see PK's self-insert Alice forcibly using a transformation potion on Eevee's self-insert?
Well now you can with these four easy links! The links are mostly SFW except for the last page (not linked).

 

[Remilia]

I like the designs of some of her characters, too. I like her Alice and Jackie characters. They're simple, yet are unique enough to tell them apart from other characters. However, the majority of her shit is just clumsy and overdesigned. A good example would be what @Galaxy Harasser said, the manticores. Here is what the mythical creature is supposed to look like, and here is PK's abomination.

Agreed. There's a fine line between " Our Monsters Are Different" and " Our Monsters Are A Completely Different Species But They Have The Same Name, So Who Cares?"

 

[PL 879]

In regards to the innuendos in her porn comics, I went back to the forbiddenflora site to see if I could find any.
I couldn't find the Beleth and Orobas comic, but the first page I saw ended with "That's good. Cum for mama!" NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE SO MUCH NOPE.

The comic I had mentioned is on her NSFW tumblr: http://forbiddenflora.tumblr.com/ It's the same comic your icon is from. Prepare your brain for a whole lot of nope and bean mouths galore!

I like the designs of some of her characters, too. I like her Alice and Jackie characters.

Admittedly I liked the look of these two as well at first, but then I saw them in NSFW stuff. "Mismatch" was super-rapey and gross, I will never see that little witch cat the same ever again. I'll give PK credit, she sure is talented- at ruining her own cutesy characters with unneeded fetishy sex stuff, I mean.

 

[Gentleburd]

I like the designs of some of her characters, too. I like her Alice and Jackie characters. They're simple, yet are unique enough to tell them apart from other characters. However, the majority of her shit is just clumsy and overdesigned. A good example would be what @Galaxy Harasser said, the manticores. Here is what the mythical creature is supposed to look like, and here is PK's abomination.

I clicked around and looked at a few of the other ridiculous designs she came up with and found something that just blew my mind.

http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Species-Beholders-443329310

Look! Look what she has done to Beholders! She turned them into fuckin' PONIES! One of the most feared monsters in all of D&D, and she makes them sparkleponies.
There are zero elements of real Beholders in her rip-offs. No eye stalks or nothin. God, I hate people who mess with established canon like this.

For the sake of not looking like some jerk on a hate-filled rampage, I will add one thing I am okay with that she has designed. That horse-thing with the yaoi hands is okay. The long neck with multiple bow ties is cute. (From the waist up it's okay, anyway. I don't think I have ever seen the rest of its body.)

 

[PL 879]

For the sake of not looking like some jerk on a hate-filled rampage, I will add one thing I am okay with that she has designed. That horse-thing with the yaoi hands is okay. The long neck with multiple bow ties is cute. (From the waist up it's okay, anyway. I don't think I have ever seen the rest of its body.)

Yeah, I probably like her the best out of the current cast myself. I like to imagine her attitude is because she is somehow self-aware of how ridiculous the fictional world and it's "colorful" cast around her is, Ahaha. However, I'm sure PK will turn her into a raging lunatic like the character's girlfriend has been shown to have become. (Seriously, what happened? It's like she became a totally different character...)

Turning your own character into a joke isn't a good thing, especially if you want them taken seriously in the story down the line... Just saying.

 

[OldInternetMeme]

I clicked around and looked at a few of the other ridiculous designs she came up with and found something that just blew my mind.

http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Species-Beholders-443329310

Look! Look what she has done to Beholders! She turned them into fuckin' PONIES! One of the most feared monsters in all of D&D, and she makes them sparkleponies.
There are zero elements of real Beholders in her rip-offs. No eye stalks or nothin. God, I hate people who mess with established canon like this.

That makes me wonder how many of her other creations are just bastardizations of preexisting creatures from lore and other works of fiction.

Also, looking through her species lists, I came across this. It's a parody species making fun of the often over-designed sparkledogs that DA kiddies are obsessed with making. It may be just me, but some of these silly dogs are better designed than her serious canonical species.

 

[TheInfamousJ]

(Seriously, what happened? It's like she became a totally different character...)

PK has a long string of being incapable at consistency. Almost all their characters go through this. I was going through some old PMD-E works with others and noticed this.

It's a parody species making fun of the often over-designed sparkledogs that DA kiddies are obsessed with making. It may be just me, but some of these silly dogs are better designed than her serious canonical species.

It's ironic because of how so many of their species are basically sparkle ponies as mentioned earlier, and rip offs of MLP, (the other big thing with terrible OCs), and neon colored Pokemon with new additions. All things they claim to hate. Not to mention, they like to make sparklecats a lot.

It may be just me, but some of these silly dogs are better designed than her serious canonical species.

Inuhairime and inutori are cute, but I'm pretty sure they're all based off anime characters, at least I recognize a few.

Byakuya Togami, Killua, Mayoi Hachikuji.

Also, the funny thing is they're mocking how they talk, but PK used to talk like that back in the day.

Also, they're showing off their crush on an underaged character again (Chillua (he is 11 and the start and 14 now)).

 

[Gentleburd]

That makes me wonder how many of her other creations are just bastardizations of preexisting creatures from lore and other works of fiction.

Also, looking through her species lists, I came across this. It's a parody species making fun of the often over-designed sparkledogs that DA kiddies are obsessed with making. It may be just me, but some of these silly dogs are better designed than her serious canonical species.

I did a bit more in-depth reading of her 'species' and may I just say that her worldbuilding SUCKS BALLS. Like, come on! I add more detail to throwaway characters I kill off within a single fight scene! Even her main characters don't have obvious backstories. Or at least ones that are easy to find anyway.

Though, the worst part of her worldbuilding is that she makes her lack of creativity so obvious. Sure, all her little islands have clever themes and shit, but their cultures are so similar they might as well all be the same. The only things that make them stand out from each other are their basic theme (music, food, flowers) and their color scheme.
Those are cop-outs man. The signs of a weak creative mind. Look at human cultures. I'll use Indian and Japanese as an example due to their similar use of colors. They have a lot of similarities, yet they are distinctly different! And their culture is VERY different! Culture is the biggest deal when making a new world, and PK failed miserably in that area. The demons in her world use the basic American military ranking system, for starters. That should have been a simple change to make. At least change the names of the ranks or something. And their very human-like clothing styles are pretty disappointing as well. (In one of my worlds one of my OCs wears a traditional human business suit. But he has a reason. He has seen humans. And he liked the look of that outfit, so he had one made for him. What is PK's excuse for her characters?)

Ugh. It is just so frusterating. I spend ages working out every detail to make sure my worlds work smoothly, and I still feel they are too unfinished to see the light of day. Meanwhile, this bitch is shitting on paper, showing it to the world, and getting called a god for it.

 

[MayMay]

Looking at character profiles seems to be just as fruitless. Looking up Min's has some things like "first encounter with cress" and a couple of bits of trivia but...
http://floraverse.com/filestore/c04...71d48eb0e0e5a66e0f3e95079f67a35308953b6cc.png

What else is there? What does she like doing? Any hobbies? I mean there's some hints to being vain and impulsive in there but does she ever actually display these traits? Essentially what's meant to be a profile looks more like a page of either concept art or cliffnotes. And I'd say "isn't this one of the main characters?" but then again, PK's never been good at settling with a protagonist (i.e. having a bunch of important characters eventually narrowed down to 'PK and the others')

I guess it's a bit of a bother because while @Gentleburd seems to love worldbuilding, I seriously love character creation/development. Heck for a throwaway picture of one thing I'm probably not going to draw again I ended up practically doing a bio for it. I can't show anything till I've got a fairly solid framework for how they are or what they're like even if in note form..

 

[Hazazel]

For someone who loves both worldbuilding and character development, I find Flora overall quite painful. But if I were to throw my own personal two pence on what I dislike a lot about the world must be the fact that the species have little to no biology. Lemme explain: we get to know things like, "they all like to do art" or "they are all religious" or "they live in a society where most of them identify as female" or "they like to sing" which bothers me because I dislike it when a species can be generalized based on a single behaviour. It's extremely oversimplified. But then, with some sheets, we never get to know what the animal is actually SUPPOSED to be. It took me a week to realize that the Rabbats were meant to be a mix of rabbit and bat.

The earliest sheets were better at this because it was clearly stated. As an example, compare the original sheet for Vanguards and the current one. First sheet: Vanguards are a mix of shark-y and weasel-y features. For a fictional species, this is credible enough. Then in the second sheet, a mess happens. Now they can be ANY SEA CREATURE mixed with ANY MAMMAL and it's just... it don't work like this. I'm aware this may seem like a nitpick to many but... biology is very important to me ok

@Gentleburd thank you, as a fellow demonology lover, I hate hate the fact that she uses names from the Ars Goetia for her cheesecake furry things. Earlier on I posted a screencap from one of her blogs where she claims her demons are more interesting than the ones in the traditional texts because the traditional ones are all male while hers are many different genders. And okay, having different genders is fun, but the presence of different genders alone is not enough to make characters more interesting.
However if that makes you feel better, the Beholders were not based on D&D's Beholders. Marl supposedly came up with the name. In fact, I think they had to change the name because they feared Hasbro may threaten them again.

 

[MayMay]

For someone who loves both worldbuilding and character development, I find Flora overall quite painful. But if I were to throw my own personal two pence on what I dislike a lot about the world must be the fact that the species have little to no biology. Lemme explain: we get to know things like, "they all like to do art" or "they are all religious" or "they live in a society where most of them identify as female" or "they like to sing" which bothers me because I dislike it when a species can be generalized based on a single behaviour. It's extremely oversimplified. But then, with some sheets, we never get to know what the animal is actually SUPPOSED to be. It took me a week to realize that the Rabbats were meant to be a mix of rabbit and bat.

The earliest sheets were better at this because it was clearly stated. As an example, compare the original sheet for Vanguards and the current one. First sheet: Vanguards are a mix of shark-y and weasel-y features. For a fictional species, this is credible enough. Then in the second sheet, a mess happens. Now they can be ANY SEA CREATURE mixed with ANY MAMMAL and it's just... it don't work like this. I'm aware this may seem like a nitpick to many but... biology is very important to me ok

@Gentleburd thank you, as a fellow demonology lover, I hate hate the fact that she uses names from the Ars Goetia for her cheesecake furry things. Earlier on I posted a screencap from one of her blogs where she claims her demons are more interesting than the ones in the traditional texts because the traditional ones are all male while hers are many different genders. And okay, having different genders is fun, but the presence of different genders alone is not enough to make characters more interesting.
However if that makes you feel better, the Beholders were not based on D&D's Beholders. Marl supposedly came up with the name. In fact, I think they had to change the name because they feared Hasbro may threaten them again.

On closer inspection, yeah I see that. I mean with those Beholders it's apparently just "they're all invariably evil and vain because I said so"

Except that seems to be without purpose. If there's anything that should be common behaviour in a species, it should be stuff that has a good reason behind it. Is a species particularly aggressive?

Why? Did they have an evolutionary history of being preyed on by nearly everything so they still instinctively get into "fight or flight" mode really easy?

Are they typically vain? Why? Is it like how many bird species employ flamboyant displays and colorful patterns for attracting a mate except it's not just a male-only thing so they tend to get caught up in their own displays?

Are they just plain hostile to most other species? Why? Where they known for a long history of being hunted/enslaved/abused and there's a big cultural resentment towards former oppressors?



Nah they're just all evil jerks with a massive ego. Kinda like PK.

Writing protip: A well-written "mean" or "bad" character isn't just those things without some reason behind it. It always bothers me in other media when a whole species is just determined to be invariably evil.

 

[SlurpleSpeckleon]

I think it might be worth compiling a list of all of her self-inserts and all the characteristics they have in common.
So first there's Purple Kecleon, of course.
But after that I get confused cause she constantly switches herself in her new comic.
So is she Min or Cress?? Or both??
Beleth is another. Can't tell if Orobas.

And after looking up the counterparts to her designs, it sickens me how much she bastardized them. Beholders look SO COOL and actually terrifying. Then again, it might be appropriate that she uses names of demons cause her comic is hellish to read.

 

[MayMay]

I think Min and Cress might have been non-self inserts... which is why they've fallen out of relevancy compared to the more obvious inserts.

 

[Gentleburd]

@Gentleburd thank you, as a fellow demonology lover, I hate hate the fact that she uses names from the Ars Goetia for her cheesecake furry things. Earlier on I posted a screencap from one of her blogs where she claims her demons are more interesting than the ones in the traditional texts because the traditional ones are all male while hers are many different genders. And okay, having different genders is fun, but the presence of different genders alone is not enough to make characters more interesting.
However if that makes you feel better, the Beholders were not based on D&D's Beholders. Marl supposedly came up with the name. In fact, I think they had to change the name because they feared Hasbro may threaten them again.

Oh man, I love all the myths about demons and hell and stuff like that! (I really just love mythology in general. It's so much fun to read the stories that people all throughout history have come up with.)

And PK needs to share what she's been smoking. She thinks her characters are better than the originals? Is she serious?! I won't rage too hard about that, since she hasn't gotten her nasty-ass claws in my favorite demon yet. (Asmoday is my fave of the Ars demons. Any guy who can crochet and still lead legions of demons is a cool dude in my book.) But if/when she does that comment is going to annoy me greatly.

I hope you are right about the Beholders. The thought of PK digging into D&D for 'inspiration' makes me feel ill. There are so many amazing creatures in that game. Creatures that the creators have spent a lot of time and effort on, making sure they are believable and that they fit well with the world they are in. (Hint, hint PK.)

 

[Malady Twigs]

I looked through some of Flora's character reference sheets and thought of a few things. PK's trying to make the sheets "alive" and "witty". She's using an informal narrator to describe the character's traits, and, more often than not, the referred character's personality bleeds into the text, making it partial and emotional. She's also making use of "Show, Don't Tell", which I personally don't think works very well with material that is supposed to be descriptive rather than narrative, BUT, it's a tool she uses to give her work her own personal "flavor", and I'm not going to hold that against her. She also uses the sheets to relay information on the world, rather than solely restricting the data to the character presented, which I think only partially works.

I can't quite say it's a stupid method of presenting information, but, the problem is, since there's the need of holding back information until the appropriate moment during the story to avoid spoilers, the reference sheets end up revealing either nothing truly important or partially showing stuff that will leave people wondering what the hell it's been talked about. Like they're supposed to know something, but they can't, because they haven't gotten to that part yet.

Here's a few examples.

Link here. Min's sheet is a little story told by Min herself, indirectly, through the narrator. The narrator also frequently gives his/her own opinion on data exposed. "She has many nightmares [...] crossing a river or ocean... how sad". "What do her eyes [...] probably scream 'I'm really cute [...] How could I possibly ruin everything... again?'". It's narrative attempting to be descriptive by use of meta-dialogue; the character gives out its own traits in a funny way, as if it were accidentaly describing itself.

Link here. Amdusias' profile is heavy with information that, so far, has been completely irrelevant for me to understand the character, and has not happened yet (and probably will not) in the story. Why is it important for me to know that she performs concerts on Trebol? Is that really relevant? Is it helpful in keeping consistency? Why are you telling me about the weird screams coming from her mansion and not explaining anything about them? The profile was useful until "Most"; from them on, it exposed information virtually needless.

Link here. Onza's sheet manages to be even worse than Amdusias'. It's a blend of Amdusias' exposure of story/world information (without explaining anything) and Min's character interference. The amount of useful information on the character itself is very poor.

Having said that, I don't think the reference sheets on the characters are really supposed to be very informative in the first place. I get that, because we're supposed to get to know the characters ourselves through exposition by the narrative, but if you're going to do that, I wouldn't personally include stuff in the sheets that hasn't shown up yet. It's like the sheet is supposed to be a (broken/teaser) part of the storyline (because it exposes new material without giving any information on it), rather than supplement content. Flora's sheets are pretty much collectives of random tidbits and trivia.

I'm not going to criticize PK on that because I think it's a personal choice of communication method, and I guess it's effective in some ways and defective in others. It's really not your standard character profile page/reference sheet, but I keep getting the feeling they were merely supposed to be fillers.

Also, the new species has been revealed. Revealeons. I'm not really enthusiastic about those. And their traits kind of reminded me of Masked Owls.

I also want to talk a bit about her worldbuilding and stuff, but I don't want this post to be huge so I'll leave it for some other time.