The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
  • Poll closed .
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they're gonna throw the book at him just to prevent the city from burning even though he's innocent.
.....And it won't work.

Even if they find him guilty of every count and order him to be immediately executed, it will not placate the mob, and will not satiate their bloodthirst.

It will never be sufficient. It never fucking is. Minneapolis was destroyed from within ages ago; the fires that will consume it in the aftermath of this merely a formality.
 
I only know of one actual medical doctor who did an actual autopsy, and that guy concluded: "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." Since I'm not a medical doctor, I have no basis to challenge that. I think a good legal team could create some reasonable doubt about that but we also have a jury that has more or less openly stated that they already hate Derek Chauvin.
A really interesting point. I believe the coroner is basically saying that it was a heart attack which made subdual and restraint more difficult; it’s also interesting that they mention ‘neck compression’ in an autopsy report that admits finding zero evidence to support the neck compression theory of death.
Progressives also crow about the finding of homicide by the coroner. All findings of cause of death must be either suicide, homicide, natural causes or misadventure. In this case, suicide and natural causes are clearly not it; because law enforcement was involved it cannot be misadventure, ergo it‘s homicide.
It’s worth noting that ‘homicide‘ in a medico-legal sense is not synonymous with ‘murder’. But had Floyd not been intercepted by police and simply passed out in his car and OD’ed there it would be misadventure. It’s similar to ‘suicide by cop’; if someone tries to stab a cop while waving a knife and screaming ‘shoot me nigga, shoot me’ and they get shot, it’s still a homicide.
There are a lot of delusional tards in this thread it seems.
There'd be one less if you fucked off back to R*ddit.
 
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.....And it won't work.

Even if they find him guilty of every count and order him to be immediately executed, it will not placate the mob, and will not satiate their bloodthirst.

It will never be sufficient. It never fucking is. Minneapolis was destroyed from within ages ago; the fires that will consume it in the aftermath of this merely a formality.
Him being guilty will provoke “celebratory” looting, arsons, beatings, and general mayhem.

I hate to be a doomer but I think we all know where this is going to go.
 
sorry if I'm late/retarded, but I see a lot of people saying "Floyd should have done/reacted x" and it's a little stupid. If you had taken a cocktail of drugs, regardless of whether it was accidental or not, and had someone kneel on your back for several minutes, I'd sure you'd be freaking out too. If you're high off your ass and a cop starts yelling at you, you're obviously going to not react perfectly calmly in that situation.
 
I’m going to powerlevel a smidge, but as someone who was on the receiving end of an assault, even with air in your lungs, if your windpipe is pressed down on you can’t breathe, scream, talk, or do much of anything except suffocate and drown on your own spit. Even if you manage to push air out to scream, at most you’re getting a ragged cough that tears your throat up.
Anecdotal at best, and you're trying to make it all about you.
Here's another consideration; every movement the body makes has directional bias, including the diaphragm. You have more strength to close your jaw than open it, et cetera. It just so happens that the diaphragm has more power on the exhale.
 
Him being guilty will provoke “celebratory” looting, arsons, beatings, and general mayhem.

I hate to be a doomer but I think we all know where this is going to go.
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It just so happens that the diaphragm has more power on the exhale.
AKA extensor vs flexor.
 
>court declares it negligence instead of homicide
>niggas are trying to riot
>the second one single stone hits a window, the fully-armed national guard is there, packing everyone at their sight with the obligatory knee to the neck
>news stations mention that as "local clashes with social undesirables, nothing to see here"
>everyone who were defending riots year ago are silent
>who aren't, are getting banned on every platform they open their mouths at
>no one is even trying to blame Biden or dems directly for that
>my face when
 
sorry if I'm late/retarded, but I see a lot of people saying "Floyd should have done/reacted x" and it's a little stupid. If you had taken a cocktail of drugs, regardless of whether it was accidental or not, and had someone kneel on your back for several minutes, I'd sure you'd be freaking out too. If you're high off your ass and a cop starts yelling at you, you're obviously going to not react perfectly calmly in that situation.
Then maybe don't get high and commit crimes? At what point do you hold someone responsible for their own shitty behavior?
 
>court declares it negligence instead of homicide
>niggas are trying to riot
>the second one single stone hits a window, the fully-armed national guard is there, packing everyone at their sight with the obligatory knee to the neck
>news stations mention that as "local clashes with social undesirables, nothing to see here"
>everyone who were defending riots year ago are silent
>who aren't, are getting banned on every platform they open their mouths at
>no one is even trying to blame Biden or dems directly for that
>my face when
And then Kop Kween Kamala will personally pacify the looters with a rocket launcher that has a trans rights sticker on it.
 
And then Kop Kween Kamala will personally pacify the looters with a rocket launcher that has a trans rights sticker on it.
I am only half-joking. Remember how riots caused by dead niggas were dealt with during the Obama years? Pretty much how I described. "This is wrong only when someone else is doing this".
 
Then maybe don't get high and commit crimes? At what point do you hold someone responsible for their own shitty behavior?
Yeah George was a criminal, but that's what the legal system should be for, not the bastardization we have currently. I just don't think anyone besides pedophiles should die screaming with their face mashed into the concrete.
 
Yeah George was a criminal, but that's what the legal system should be for, not the bastardization we have currently. I just don't think anyone besides pedophiles should die screaming with their face mashed into the concrete.
Problem is that Floyd's own actions(as in, abusing some substances that are seriously dangerous when mixed together)were probably most of what led to him dying screaming on the ground, Chauvin didn't do the right thing by leaving his knee on Floyd's neck the way he did, but Floyd probably died of a drug OD.
 
When they finally manage to get him in the car (for like, 15 seconds), he immediately starts screaming "I can't breathe" over and over while also making these weird, feminine-like horrified screams.
He'd done exactly the same "I CAN'T SNEEEEED" shit in previous arrests. It was his go-to fake bullshit. I think he started out faking and it was so obviously fake they didn't take it seriously when he later actually couldn't breathe. I think it was a serious fuckup to continue to kneel on his neck from the beginning, because he was never actively resisting in a way that justified that kind of restraint, and was definitely a gigantic criminal level fuckup when it was obvious the guy wasn't even moving any more, and he'd been dead for minutes by the time the medics arrived.

I just don't think it was actual murder unless you could wangle in some theory of felony murder where he committed aggravated assault, as a felony, and that was what led to the death. And either argument is muddled, because Chauvin clearly had the duty somehow to restrain this asshole and get him to behave, but he chose the wrong method. That's a really tough to prove murder, at least with an unbiased jury.

And if a jury 100% composed of people who already admitted they hate this guy isn't a reason for a change of venue I've never seen one.
 
Saint Floyd the patron saint of mushmouths. How many others have tried that “ I can’t breathe line”. Cops must be sick of hearing it. Chauvin was out of line though & deserves a charge of some kind though. Thug with a fucking badge. Power trip.
It’s worth noting that ‘homicide‘ in a medico-legal sense is not synonymous with ‘murder’.
This is so fucking obvious & simple but the amount of fuckwits it doesn’t register with is insane. Same as the ‘levels’ for murder & manslaughter.
 
Saint Floyd the patron saint of mushmouths

This is so fucking obvious & simple but the amount of fuckwits it doesn’t register with is insane. Same as the ‘levels’ for murder & manslaughter.
Fun fact: in most states with the death penalty, when they execute someone, the death certificate will indicate "homicide." It merely means the person was killed by another human.
 
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