The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
  • Poll closed .
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MMA dude kept talking about maintaining “professionalism” at the scene but the dude can’t be professional at all during questioning hmm
If he were truly being a professional, he would have kept interrupting the defense attorney to call him a "fucking bum."
 
Did I see it here, or elsewhere, that the black guy MMA dude has been seen and ID'd as a protester and a figure at CHAZ over the summer? Thread's moving fast and I have multiple sources of info tabbed, so I can't slag through all the info but I distinctly remember this.
 
I’m going to play black guy’s advocate here and suggest that the law will find the smallest reason to prosecute someone (or even make one up) if it’s someone they WANT to prosecute. Try applying your logic to CCP dissidents and see if your opinion changes.
Yup, totally get your point, as the law can be corrupt and changed to make the innocent guilty. I'm just saying in context of todays america where blacks are saying one thing yet acting another, and quite honestly getting preferential treatment in todays culture.
 
You're saying that he didn't die if you imply that theres a requirement lacking here.

No, the issue is causation. You have to prove that the actions of the person resulted in death. In this case Chauvin didn't shove fentanyl down Floyd's throat so the point is moot.

I think its pretty likely that no matter what the police did, he would have died anyways.

That's exactly why these charges are inappropriate, dude.

They will then argue that, while it may have been procedure (eliminating 2nd degree murder), continuing said procedure past x point when there are other options Chauvin could have employed (which they will likely successfully argue), evidences that situation with unreasonable risk.

Just like in the previous thread, I'll ask you to provide the training materials, manuals, policy or guidelines on this. You have no idea how personal restraint works, how or why police procedure is structured in general, and zero knowledge about Chauvins training in specific.

In general you're faulting Chauvin for not having perfect information or Christ-like abilities to lay on hands.
 
Reading this shit just reminded me that redditors are as comically reductive as they are terminally addicted to pop culture.

Nothing can stop these retards from applying a TVtropes autism to every circumstance like some sort of catch-all.
"This is just like voldemort thanos hitler"
- reddit probably
 
Just like in the previous thread, I'll ask you to provide the training materials, manuals, policy or guidelines on this. You have no idea how personal restraint works, how or why police procedure is structured in general, and zero knowledge about Chauvins training in specific.

In general you're faulting Chauvin for not having perfect information or Christ-like abilities to lay on hands.
I think in the other thread, you asked me what I would have done differently

with "move into any other position? Tie him to a tree if you want, sit on the dudes arms and legs, etc. The way he acted is just such a horrible PR move and pretty much he fucked up and called this on himself when he froze on the dude's neck, even when the other cops were like "should we do something different".
No, the issue is causation. You have to prove that the actions of the person resulted in death. In this case Chauvin didn't shove fentanyl down Floyd's throat so the point is moot.
In this case, its actually proving that he put Floyd in an unreasonable situation which could have contributed to death.
 
The prosecution is being deliberately retarded. Finally, this retard is excused. I expect the defense to bring in actual, qualified experts to explain the police procedures Chauvin was trained and expected to use. People that have actual degrees and expertise in their fields. Those cost money though so I don't know what the defense's funding is at this point.
Police union is funding defense and spending quite a pretty penny - I don't think the cost of an expert witness is a big deal here.
 
Cups Foods, a dangerous neighborhood. It is now.

"Your cousin loves snacks?" What kind of question is that?
He was probably going to have him ask his cousin to pick up a bag of chips and some root beer.

Guy gets hungry.
 
Hadn’t Chauvin gotten in trouble before this incident for acting out? Also holy shit I hate this lady’s crying

Edit: Don’t understand what good the crowd at the scene thinks they’re doing by bothering the police officers and trying to tell them how to do their job
 
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Reading this shit just reminded me that redditors are as comically reductive as they are terminally addicted to pop culture.

Nothing can stop these retards from applying a TVtropes autism to every circumstance like some sort of catch-all.
Yeah we got a live one in here, a comment so nice I quoted it twice

Sad to see so many of my fellow Americans going to bat over the State's ability to handcuff and lynch a man, using the tropes right wing media moguls have parroted for years and years. That all black people are running around on drugs all the time and din du nuffin,
The view seems to be that the very fabric of reality itself as reflected in unedited body cam footage is downstream from pop culture
 
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