Dave Ramsey's Company Fired 12 Employees for Premarital Sex - Based Boomer; Hoes Mad


Financial adviser and public personality Dave Ramsey reportedly disciplined at least a dozen former employees for engaging in premarital or extramarital sex, leading to their respective departures from his consulting company, Ramsey Solutions.

The Tennessee-based corporation is at the center of a federal lawsuit, originally brought by Caitlin O'Connor, a former administrative assistant who worked at Ramsey Solutions for years before her termination last June. O'Connor alleged that the company fired her because she was pregnant, as the decision came shortly after she requested paperwork for maternity leave.

However, according to new court filings obtained by The Tennessean and referenced in a report published Monday, attorneys representing Ramsey Solutions reportedly linked O'Connor's dismissal to the fact that she engaged in premarital sex. The former assistant was not married to her partner, and the child's father, when she announced her pregnancy.

"Ms. O'Connor finally had a meeting with the Head of Human Resources and the board members and was informed that she was being terminated due to her pregnancy and for a violation of 'Company Conduct,' because she is not married to her partner, the baby's father," reads a statement included in O'Connor's legal complaint, initially filed last July. "Ramsey contends that her committed relationship and her pregnancy are a violation of its 'righteous living' policy," the complaint continues.

Court documents indicated that at least 12 additional Ramsey Solutions employees were either fired or forced to resign after the company initiated disciplinary protocols against them for sexual activity while single, and at least two other former employees were terminated for having sex outside of their respective marriages, The Tennessean reported.

The company's attorneys reportedly said that all employees determined to have engaged in premarital sex were terminated by Ramsey Solutions, according to the newspaper. Attorneys reportedly neglected to provide details about the company's process in determining which of its employees engaged in premarital or extramarital sex in recent court filings.

A webpage that appears in the "Ask Dave" section of Ramsey Solutions' site—meant to provide "personalized" consulting advice using a number of real-life scenarios related to employment and finance—seems to confirm the company's position on these matters. The page, titled "Employees Have to Follow the Moral Code," begins with a question asking whether an employer is legally permitted to terminate an employee "for having an extramarital affair outside the office."

"Dave says yes," the company's response reads, before segueing into printed remarks attributed to Ramsey.

"Sure. Absolutely," the Ramsey Solutions' owner says in the response section. "We have a moral code of conduct at our office. I fire people if they have extramarital affairs." Ramsey's response went on to suggest that, because Tennessee is an "at-will" state, employers are legally allowed to fire employees for any reason, or without cause.

"They freaking work for me," his response continues. "This is an employment-at-will state, which means if I decide I don't like people with green eyes, I don't have to hire you. I don't have to keep you anymore."

Newsweek reached out to Ramsey Solutions for further comment but did not receive a reply in time for publication.
 
I mean he literally told a whore to stop sleeping around but go off I guess
Also that whole "render unto Caesar what is Caesar" line as well.

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I dislike Dave Ramsey. I put him in the same category as Suze Orman, both being "financial gurus" who give the most basic advice on finances that anyone who cared at all would already know, yet somehow managed to build a cult of personality around themselves and make money off morons who think "save money and don't collect debt like pokemon" is amazing, life changing insight.

However, regarding this case, I'd say it depends on what she agreed to when she joined the company. If they made clear up front they had a morality clause and would fire people for extramarital and premartial sex, and you signed it, and the rule is applied evenly to all people who signed the agreement, then I guess you got what you signed up for. Otherwise, you may have a case.

However, you'd be insane to work for a religious nutjob who made you sign a morality clause, then show up with indisputable proof you broke it. You'd also be insane to accept a $30k/yr job with a morality clause you had no intention of abiding. No way there isn't plenty of other secretary jobs that don't have a NO HOORS agreement to sign.
 
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Also that whole "render unto Caesar what is Caesar" line as well.

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I know he's a retarded, broken record, semi-troll, but you'd think he'd at least figure out that being the smug Pajama Boy trying to shame Christians is just not going to work here of all places. I know cleaning up the break room couch after doctors and nurses are done fucking on it isn't mentally taxing work, but come on.
 
While he's "technically" right, this goes against discrimination laws.

It's why usually companies don't give a reason for termination; then it's up to the employee to prove that is the reason they were fired.

It makes it much harder though when you fire someone asking for maternity leave. I actually think that one is illegal. If he was "smart" he would have waited a year or so and then fired her for a completely made up reason (or just not given one.)

TL;DR - Even "at-will employment" is subject to discrimination laws; which is why companies usually don't give reasons at all.
Yeah but discrimination laws wouldn't hold up if they went to the Supreme Court. It's a private business. You can't force a private business to associate with people they don't want to.
 
Its a private company, they can do whatever they want. Isn't that how the mantra goes?
What? I know you're a retard, so I will explain it to you. I was just saying that firing a pregnant woman just because she got pregnant kind of goes against what Jesus taught, which is ironic coming from someone claiming to be a Christian. I thought you right-wingers read the bible?
 
What? I know you're a retard, so I will explain it to you. I was just saying that firing a pregnant woman just because she got pregnant kind of goes against what Jesus taught, which is ironic coming from someone claiming to be a Christian. I thought you right-wingers read the bible?

It's not a convent and she isnt a nun. There's no "just because she got pregnant". Don't lie.
 
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What? I know you're a retard, so I will explain it to you. I was just saying that firing a pregnant woman just because she got pregnant kind of goes against what Jesus taught, which is ironic coming from someone claiming to be a Christian. I thought you right-wingers read the bible?
If the Bible actually said what you want to think it says you might have a point.
 
What? I know you're a retard, so I will explain it to you. I was just saying that firing a pregnant woman just because she got pregnant kind of goes against what Jesus taught, which is ironic coming from someone claiming to be a Christian. I thought you right-wingers read the bible?

Except its not. There's nothing ironic in it. Please for your sake learn how to use words properly.

The whole idea that Christians are suppose to give up their morals and let everyone do what they want is dumb. Good God you're an idiot with manlet anger.
 
Except its not. There's nothing ironic in it. Please for your sake learn how to use words properly.
How so? Jesus never said anything against premarital sex. Jesus also said to love your neighbor and all that crap, yet you right-wingers seem to hate blacks and gays. Jesus would also tell you to wear a mask during a pandemic, yet you guys throw temper tantrums when asked to do that. For people who claim to be Christians, you people sure don't follow what Jesus said.

It's not a convent and she isnt a nun. There's no "just because she got pregnant". Don't lie.
Really? Sounds like that is the reason why
 
How so? Jesus never said anything against premarital sex. Jesus also said to love your neighbor and all that crap, yet you right-wingers seem to hate blacks and gays. Jesus would also tell you to wear a mask during a pandemic, yet you guys throw temper tantrums when asked to do that. For people who claim to be Christians, you people sure don't follow what Jesus said.


Really? Sounds like that is the reason why

What are you even talking about nigga? Holy shit stay on point rather then raging out.
 
What are you even talking about nigga? Holy shit stay on point rather then raging out.
Lol calm down. You seem upset that I am calling out your hypocrisy, even ninja-editing your post to put in that retarded comic. I grew up Christian and just because I am no longer a Christian doesn't mean I don't know what Jesus taught and can't point out how hypocritical you seething mad right-wingers are

And I see you're still upset about being called a manlet six months ago. You are tall. Taller than me. Now, will you settle down with that? I don't want you to tardrage tonight and lose any good boy points from your mom.
 
Lol calm down. You seem upset that I am calling out your hypocrisy, even ninja-editing your post to put in that retarded comic. I grew up Christian and just because I am no longer a Christian doesn't mean I don't know what Jesus taught and can't point out how hypocritical you seething mad right-wingers are

Manlet rage at it again. Calm down. Just because you hate jesus or whatever doesn't mean you need to get so upset.

A company can do what they want. She violate their morality clause, tough shit. They don't have to keep her employed. Simple as that.
 
Manlet rage at it again. Calm down. Just because you hate jesus or whatever doesn't mean you need to get so upset.

A company can do what they want. She violate their morality clause, tough shit. They don't have to keep her employed. Simple as that.

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You're still upset at being called a manlet six months ago? :story: You are a tall person who certainly isn't upset at being called a manlet. You are a very tall person. You are taller than me. Now, will you stop tardraging over that? I don't like seeing you tardrage and don't want your mom to withhold the tendies and honey mussie.

And again, just because I am not Christian doesn't mean I can't see how hypocritical you retards are being. I actually had to read the bible, but apparently you and your fellow right-wing tards on here never did.
 
Lol calm down. You seem upset that I am calling out your hypocrisy, even ninja-editing your post to put in that retarded comic. I grew up Christian and just because I am no longer a Christian doesn't mean I don't know what Jesus taught and can't point out how hypocritical you seething mad right-wingers are
I'm going to request chapters and verses then. If you could provide links to theological writings to back your statements, perhaps even peer reviewed studies?
 
You're never gonna get it. He's to busy raging out to make up his sources.
I know. It was always my go to with euphorics once they got to the "I used to go to Sunday School," and "Just trust me, bro," stage. I just thought that since he always demands Peer Reviewed Studies, he'd surely have good sources himself. He certainly wouldn't be one of those losers on the Internet who demand the highest standards of proof while having nothing to back up any of their own statements but random sports doctors on Facebook.
 
Yeah, crying to community watch, null, zedfaggot. For someone who hates A&H you sure do spend all your time raging about A&H to others. Use your manlet rage and try to funnel it to something more productive, maybe?
Lol calm down
I know. It was always my go to with euphorics once they got to the "I used to go to Sunday School," and "Just trust me, bro," stage. I just thought that since he always demands Peer Reviewed Studies, he'd surely have good sources himself. He certainly wouldn't be one of those losers on the Internet who demand the highest standards of proof while having nothing to back up any of their own statements but random sports doctors on Facebook.
No shit that was your aim, sherlock. How can you do peer-reviewed studies for bible quotes? lol. I could give you bible quotes of what Jesus said, but you'd just shrug them off like the other religious people do. Or are you really claiming Jesus didn't say to love people and be kind?
 
No shit that was your aim, sherlock. How can you do peer-reviewed studies for bible quotes? lol. I could give you bible quotes of what Jesus said, but you'd just shrug them off like the other religious people do. Or are you really claiming Jesus didn't say to love people and be kind?
What I'm asking for, Sunday School Reject, is the basis for your argument, which you know is what I'm asking for. You're dodging it because you know Jesus said nothing of what your claiming, unless you're a sperg who can't understand context. If you bring the same arguments in front of a lot a religious people and they all reject them, maybe the problem is your understanding of it. Before I can form an actual response to your comments, I need context and understanding of what you're basing your argument off of.

"Like, Jesus said love people and be kind and stuff," what I'm asking you is where, specifically, he said those things. Which things are you refencing? Which statements? Come on man, you know more than I do, this should be easy for you. You know more than us religious people, surely you can actually back up your statements with evidence.
 
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