The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
  • Poll closed .
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I honestly worry bout you man, do you open carry or have any way to protect yourself? You should really get the fuck outta there if shit goes down man, don't get burnt up in all this Chimp business.
my eyes are squinty enough andnmy hair dark enough that i kinda pass as asian to the point black people call me nigga for some reason so i guess i'm fine with them for the most part.
 
The fact is George Floyd died because he was not attended to while saying he could not breathe. Was it entirely suffocation or asphyxiation? The difference? Lack of oxygen and only the method of denying it. The difference is almost non existent. What really differentiates this shit is wether the charge is Chauvin trying to kill him on purpose or just not giving a fuck while the waste of time negro died under his knee.
He was saying that while he was sitting in his own car, and when he was sitting in the police car asking to be put on the ground.
Please tell me how cops not helping someone, to your satisfaction after the fact, is a crime.
 
He'd been saying he couldn't breathe, while screaming and shouting and resisting arrest, long before he got a knee on the neck.

He refused being put into the nice air conditioned car. He got put to the ground because he fucking asked to be. Then when he was there he wouldn't fucking lie still.

It's very obvious that you've never had to deal with any low scale criminal activity. The fucks will say anything and everything to get htemselves a window of opportunity to do a runner. You simply can't treat them all as a serious objection. A guy screaming and shouting that he can't breathe while he's standing up straight, not even in cuffs yet, is not going to be believed when he's shouting that he can't breath while being restrained on the ground.
Also, subjective feeling of shortness of breath is a side effect of just about everything, including purely psychosomatic panic attacks.
 
Every restraint technique is a trade-off, strong restraints make sure the officers and bystanders are safe but may present risk to the suspect. Very loose restraints may be lower risk for the suspect, but less effective and allow for harm to come to officers or bystanders or even the suspect. Remember that suspects may be trying to harm themselves or others, and human restraint is challenging in any circumstance, particularly in one on one encounters.
Fully agree. Floyd got himself into this mess and reaped the consequences of his moronic actions.

Important also to note that Chauvin seemed to be relying on Keung to inform him clearly if a pulse couldn't be detected which, for some unknowable reason, he didn't do. Not sure why Chauvin is the villain they chose instead of the guy ostensibly monitoring Floyd's well-being through the whole ordeal.
 
Welcome to the job world of america, where we need to teach you, but we don't exactly have time for this, we need people up there now so just get up there and work now
^This. No joke, nobody wants to teach anyone anything anymore. They expect you to have the knowledge before-hand, otherwise you are not getting the job. Doesn't matter if it's a high-paying career, or something like secretary/data entry.
 
We should also discuss the difference between 1st degree murder and 2nd degree murder when you graduate kindergarten. Chauvin is on trial for allowing someone to die while trying to hurt them and not necessarily pre meditated murder. The prosecution is really going to fuck this up by going for the worst possible scenario charge.

The fact is George Floyd died because he was not attended to while saying he could not breathe. Was it entirely suffocation or asphyxiation? The difference? Lack of oxygen and only the method of denying it. The difference is almost non existent. What really differentiates this shit is wether the charge is Chauvin trying to kill him on purpose or just not giving a fuck while the waste of time negro died under his knee.

Wether George Floyd had enough oxygen or not is beyond the fact that he said he could not breathe and no one did shit except hold him down.

They should fill the jury with anti BLM haters. Why not? No this has nothing to do with BLM. It has nothing to do with wether he was black or not. It also has nothing to do with the fact that there are many vice versa BLM haters.

It has to do with the fact someone said they could not breathe and the cops were like "fuck you junkie." Everyone else can now be like "yeah fuck that junkie nigger. It was not 1st degree murder."

So what? What does the autopsy report? Heart attack? Asphyxiation? Combination?

There is no question Chauvin is guilty of denying Floyd treatment and GF died because of it. Wether he is nailed with 3rd degree murder or a harsher charge there is no way Chauvin will get off scott free. No one deserves to die because the cop doesn't feel "its time to let a handcuffed ODing nigger get some medical help" as everyone keeps saying.

Also if he was having a heart attack then suffocation could hurry the bodies response to a heart attack and he dies sooner and there would be less of the bodies response to try and suck in more air and bruise more if he was already dying. It does not mean he not also suffocating.

It does not mean he was not murdered. Was it in the 1st degree or 3rd degree? That is what needs to be proven. But Chauvin will not get off the hook.

I am not a rioter though. So this is not fuel for me to go burn down a city because of a bad verdict. Wether Chauvin gets life or not I am sure he will get 5 years prison and never ever ever ever ever be allowed on the force again. A lifetime of doing dishes at Denny's awaits him after a lengthy term in the ass fuck ward.

Being a hard thug cop gets you hard thug cop consequences. He gets something. Hopefully the prosecution makes a clear case and does not muddle things with a passionate response.
I get everything that you are saying, and you raise good points, but as a juror, the doubt I would continue to have is, "How likely is it that any white police officer in the year 2020 would intentionally torture a black man to death in front of a dozen people with cameras? And even if he didn't want to kill a black man live on camera, why would he decide to not render aid if he knew that his detainee was dying in custody and that what his action or inaction was causing it, again in front of multiple cameras in broad daylight?" Based on that, I can't see this going higher than a manslaughter conviction, but even with manslaughter I am doubtful because my assumption is that an experienced cop wouldn't do what he did if he thought it was dangerous. So, he either reasonably thought he wasn't doing anything wrong, or he was insane enough to think he could kill a black man in front of a crowd and not have his life ruined, which seems so unlikely that it is not worth considering.
 
I get everything that you are saying, and you raise good points, but as a juror, the doubt I would continue to have is, "How likely is it that any white police officer in the year 2020 would intentionally torture a black man to death in front of a dozen people with cameras? And even if he didn't want to kill a black man live on camera, why would he decide to not render aid if he knew that his detainee was dying in custody and that what his action or inaction was causing it, again in front of multiple cameras in broad daylight?" Based on that, I can't see this going higher than a manslaughter conviction, but even with manslaughter I am doubtful because my assumption is that an experienced cop wouldn't do what he did if he thought it was dangerous. So, he either reasonably thought he wasn't doing anything wrong, or he was insane enough to think he could kill a black man in front of a crowd and not have his life ruined, which seems so unlikely that it is not worth considering.
I can't wait for the defense to ask an ME 'just how much faster could Mr Floyd have died if he was kept in the police car that was causing him to panic?'
 
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