The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[Glowing In The Streets]

Fully agree. Floyd got himself into this mess and reaped the consequences of his moronic actions.

Important also to note that Chauvin seemed to be relying on Keung to inform him clearly if a pulse couldn't be detected which, for some unknowable reason, he didn't do. Not sure why Chauvin is the villain they chose instead of the guy ostensibly monitoring Floyd's well-being through the whole ordeal.

Chauvin is the one on tape

This is a soviet style shame court

 

[Łimønča]

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Also, don't forget to torrent Godzilla VS King Kong today, fag frens.

 

[LUNEKO]

>Dragon wok
>Floyd holding a banana
How many more racist stereotypes can we have in this court case before it ends, where's the sombrero and poncho wearing mexican

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Heh, this guy's video shows Floyd falling to the ground one second after being hauled out of his car, then a minute later, he says he saw the cops put him in the police cruiser so he thought the party was over.

I hope to God the defense takes care to impress on the jury that Chauvin wasn't the one who pulled out the gat.

And at 3 minutes after the hour we are going for the lunch.

 

[formershroomeryuser]

The jury will also get to see Floyd complaining about breathing before he was ever in a hold on the ground, they took him out of a police car because of his whining. They had also called the paramedics with the highest urgency. Both of those things don't lead me to think they where acting maliciously.

Why the need for such serious restraint once he was already in hand cuffs? Its obviously a question asked a million times but what was the good answer? Why seriously restrain a person on the verge of a heart attack?

I seriously do not see how an ambulance taking over 45 minutes to arrive was "of highest urgency."

But for the sake of argument is Chauvin entirely innocent because George Floyd was high and should have used a knee to hold him down in handcuffs while unconscious beyond 10 minutes after he appeared lifeless? Why did the cops not check his pulse? Police are trained in CPR as well and being law enforcers they are trained in the law like for example code of conduct like for example using a knee on someones neck to hold them down is a banned tactic.

So is Chauvin 100% innocent? No. But since everyone disagrees with me so much what is Chauvin guilty of? It cannot be nothing. This is not going to go to mistrail that is for sure.

 

[Cliff Booth]

Would it surprise you to know I don't find Chauvin's actions to be appropriate for the situation? By the coroner's report, he didn't kill Floyd as Floyd was dead as soon as he popped the pills. BUT at the same time, I can safely say that the knee hold was not appropriate for a man who wasn't fighting or really physically resisting to any major degree.

These are not mutually exclusive views. The difference is that I hold that the latter isn't worthy of murder or even manslaughter charges, but is worthy of administrative action.

I'll be honest and say that your consideration does surprise me, but I hope you understand that this thread has been pretty light on nuance so far. I'm wholly unqualified to make any legal judgements on questions of guilt or culpability, so we'll leave that to the esqperts. What sort of punitive action would you have in mind for Chauvin? Keep in mind he was fired a day after Floyd's death.

I view the police as a state-sanctioned gang with a monopoly on violence who make their communities less safe due to their antagonistic "us vs them" attitude that stems from our military-to-police pipeline. The people who literally pay their salaries via tax dollars become enemy combatants overnight due to some thin blue line.

Unfortunately the Chauvin trial has become somewhat of a referendum on that position rather than a legal assessment of the facts. The bloodthirsty lunatics on "my side" like Chelsea Handler who flippantly disregard due process in favor of a witch hunt do nothing to reduce the amount of police violence.

tl;dr I agree with you

 

[Christopher Robin]

Floyds last moments before death were him dancing around a shop high while holding a banana. Rest in power

 

[NyQuilninja]

That kid probably couldn't afford to get that $20 docked.

Dude most people can't
Moneys tight nowadays

 

[formershroomeryuser]

Heh, this guy's video shows Floyd falling to the ground one second after being hauled out of the car, then a minute later, he says he saw the cops put him in the car so he thought the party was over.

I hope to God the defense takes care to impress on the jury that Chauvin wasn't the one who pulled out the gat.

And at 3 minutes after the hour we are going for the lunch.

Lunch is nice for people who can afford it.

No it was entirely necessary to put him in the car then take him out of the car. 100%

100% those cops did their best.

Says no jury ever.

 

[LUNEKO]

Why the need for such serious restraint once he was already in hand cuffs? Its obviously a question asked a million times but what was the good answer?

If you ever dealt with someone who's high out of his mind you would realize hand cuffs don't cut it, it gives them super human retard strength and are very likely to hurt themselves struggling, holding them down is the best way to prevent them from hurting others and themselves

 

[formershroomeryuser]

He was saying that while he was sitting in his own car, and when he was sitting in the police car asking to be put on the ground.
Please tell me how cops not helping someone, to your satisfaction after the fact, is a crime.

Did he ask for the knee?

 

[Observotron]

Don't have the clip now, but does anyone remember when there was body cam footage of some white kid being mowed down by a cop outside a hotel room? You know, the one that plainly shows an officer of the law abusing his power and 'dispatching' of a completely harmless drunk guy?

That cop ended up getting discharged with full pension and a 'mental distress' diagnosis.

Interested to see how this guy gets off.

FWIW - All shithead cops should be canned without compensation. They give all good cops (the majority) a shit name.

 

[formershroomeryuser]

If you ever dealt with someone who's high out of his mind you would realize hand cuffs don't cut it, it gives them super human retard strength and are very likely to hurt themselves struggling, holding them down is the best way to prevent them from hurting others and themselves

The main point is to get them in the back of the cop car then take them to jail. Why remove someone already in the back of the cop car? Was Floyd able to break the hand cuffs and kick the cage in the back to enter the front seat?

How violent was he? Were any of the officers hurt and in risk of being continuously hurt if he was not removed from the car and put on the ground?

 

[formershroomeryuser]

Don't have the clip now, but does anyone remember when there was body cam footage of some white kid being mowed down by a cop outside a hotel room? You know, the one that plainly shows an officer of the law abusing his power and 'dispatching' of a completely harmless drunk guy?

That cop ended up getting discharged with full pension with a 'mental distress' diagnosis.

Interested to see how this guy gets off.

FWIW - All shithead cops should be canned without compensation. They give all good cops (the majority) a shit name.

For every cop that saves someones life there is a bad cop who without reserve fucking kills someone and gives that good cop a bad name and a reason to sleep with their eyes open.

 

[Seminal Ointments Lain]

Provocative, stunning, informative. When will you finish this screen play?

Either Tonight or Tomorrow

 

[Meat Target]

So is Chauvin 100% innocent? No.

That literally never gets determined, or even argued, in court. The verdict of "not guilty" does not mean "innocent". It merely means the defendant could not be proven guilty of a crime beyond all reasonable doubt.

 

[Weppers]

For every cop that saves someones life there is a bad cop who without reserve fucking kills someone and gives that good cop a bad name and a reason to sleep with their eyes open.

Oh, good. I was starting to worry some of these statements you were making were serious.

Go back to somethingawful.

 

[Not Really Here]

Did he ask for the knee?

The knee that was so gently applied that it didn't leave any bruising and the prosecution isn't claiming harmed Floyd?
No. Why are you asking about something entirely irrelevant and not answering my question?

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

The main point is to get them in the back of the cop car then take them to jail. Why remove someone already in the back of the cop car? Was Floyd able to break the hand cuffs and kick the cage in the back to enter the front seat?

How violent was he? Were any of the officers hurt and in risk of being continuously hurt if he was not removed from the car and put on the ground?

>implying the police was able to put the whiny nigger into the cop car

He stated he couldn't breath and was scared of closed places

If they transported him, then we would news of an overdose on police custody.

 

[ogmudbone]

I'll be honest and say that your consideration does surprise me, but I hope you understand that this thread has been pretty light on nuance so far. I'm wholly unqualified to make any legal judgements on questions of guilt or culpability, so we'll leave that to the esqperts. What sort of punitive action would you have in mind for Chauvin? Keep in mind he was fired a day after Floyd's death.

I view the police as a state-sanctioned gang with a monopoly on violence who make their communities less safe due to their antagonistic "us vs them" attitude that stems from our military-to-police pipeline. The people who literally pay their salaries via tax dollars become enemy combatants overnight due to some thin blue line.

Unfortunately the Chauvin trial has become somewhat of a referendum on that position rather than a legal assessment of the facts. The bloodthirsty lunatics on "my side" like Chelsea Handler who flippantly disregard due process in favor of a witch hunt do nothing to reduce the amount of police violence.

tl;dr I agree with you

"State sanctioned gang" have you never lived in a well to do area? Its like night and fucking day between low and middle class income areas. If anythings its the nogs that cant go five minutes without a black on black crime.