The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
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Break break break. All these motherfuckers do is break. They go on break before lunch. They go on break after lunch. They get a guy in and he starts crying. 10 minute recess. He comes back and confirms that he is the guy in the video.

Great timing, says the judge. Let's have a 10 minute break so we can talk about streamlining this. Then he waddles his judge ass up and waddles his judge ass away and prepares another 400 hours of asking random people on the street if the man was in fact on the ground.

Boys I think Chauvin already lost. Win or Loss, he'll be long dead by the time these breaks come to a halt. Fuck.
Now you know why the law takes so fucking long to get shit done
 
What a shitshow of a trial, the only witnesses they need is the mortician who did the autopsy and a showing of the bodycam footage, alongside a reading of the regulations surrounding the allowable restraints. Too bad the prosecution is trying to lynch the guy using emotional manipulation.
So both sides are shit or just the prosecution?
 
Break break break. All these motherfuckers do is break. They go on break before lunch. They go on break after lunch. They get a guy in and he starts crying. 10 minute recess. He comes back and confirms that he is the guy in the video.

Great timing, says the judge. Let's have a 10 minute break so we can talk about streamlining this. Then he waddles his judge ass up and waddles his judge ass away and prepares another 400 hours of asking random people on the street if the man was in fact on the ground.

Boys I think Chauvin already lost. Win or Loss, he'll be long dead by the time these breaks come to a halt. Fuck.
By the time the verdict comes, five judges would have taken his place, and Chauvin would just be a skeleton being puppeted
 
What a shitshow of a trial, the only witnesses they need is the mortician who did the autopsy and a showing of the bodycam footage, alongside a reading of the regulations surrounding the allowable restraints. Too bad the prosecution is trying to lynch the guy using emotional manipulation.
what is the prosecution using as evidence?
 
Woah wonder why Nelson didnt cross examine

I have no law experience, but I’m wondering if the defense said “holy shit that guy was perfect” and left it alone. He was def the most straightforward witness so far. Said what he saw, described him foaming at the mouth, and saw him as a person who needed calming down. I didn’t hear anything he said that was in a negative light to what the police did.
 
Obviously not directly relevant because he's very dead, but I'd recommend anything I've ever watched by Vincent Bugliosi for info on courtroom strategies. Successfully prosecuted 105/106 cases, including Charles Manson, and made a goddamn 7 hour documentary going blow-by-blow on how the OJ Simpson prosecutors failed [pt1] [pt2].


This video on the OJ Simpson trial was recommended earlier, and I just got to this clip of Newsweek talking about the aftermath. This seems like a really relevant point in todays culture.
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What a shitshow of a trial, the only witnesses they need is the mortician who did the autopsy and a showing of the bodycam footage, alongside a reading of the regulations surrounding the allowable restraints. Too bad the prosecution is trying to lynch the guy using emotional manipulation.
Does anyone actually know where this is supposed to go? Like what is the actual thrust of these witnesses? It all seems completely irrelevant in the long run. Guy who talked to him saying he was clearly high? Yeah okay sure. Random guy on street? But why though? Emotional manipulation?
 
What a shitshow of a trial, the only witnesses they need is the mortician who did the autopsy and a showing of the bodycam footage, alongside a reading of the regulations surrounding the allowable restraints. Too bad the prosecution is trying to lynch the guy using emotional manipulation.
Yeah but gathering more emotional testimony is within the prosecution's right if they don't know that they have a sure thing and isn't really an uncommon tactic in the courtroom. Besides that, more eyewitnesses means they can establish more facts, which is theoretically what will lead to an airtight case. It just takes awhile to get through all the testimony.
 
Can the judge actually do anything or does the prosecution just have free reign to keep dragging in random street people as surprise witnesses forever?
Let's use a game analogy for a trial:
  1. The lawyers are the players
  2. The plaintiffs and defendants are the stakes
  3. The jury decides who wins
  4. The judge is the referee
 
What a shitshow of a trial, the only witnesses they need is the mortician who did the autopsy and a showing of the bodycam footage, alongside a reading of the regulations surrounding the allowable restraints. Too bad the prosecution is trying to lynch the guy using emotional manipulation.
The strategy is retarded. The defense is likely just picking key bits of info from all the witnesses that support their case. The longer they interview witnesses, the more slips they make and the more ammo the defense has. Every time they don't feel like interviewing a witness, the defense wins. Every time the witness argues with the defense, the defense wins. The prosecution completely threw away the case.
 
Woah wonder why Nelson didnt cross examine

I reckon the defense didn’t want to come across as cruel in the jury’s eyes. The old man was so emotional that going at him would’ve probably hurt their case because he would’ve been a blubbering mess.

Edited because I worded that like I have a 3rd grade education.
 
Does anyone actually know where this is supposed to go? Like what is the actual thrust of these witnesses? It all seems completely irrelevant in the long run. Guy who talked to him saying he was clearly high? Yeah okay sure. Random guy on street? But why though? Emotional manipulation?

Personal Theory: If they didn't just think they'd get an auto win, the prosecution maybe realized the case is bullshit and are just dragging it out as long as possible to make it seem like they made the maximum effort possible.
 
Can the judge actually do anything or does the prosecution just have free reign to keep dragging in random street people as surprise witnesses forever?
At some point that would end up hurting their case. There are only so many people who witnessed the actual event, and within the actual witnesses there are only so many people with relevant information. I don't think any jury is going to take kindly to the people who are keeping them there for longer than they need to, and they sure as hell aren't going to respond kindly to dragging in a moron that the defense swiftly dismantles.
 
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