The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
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Powerlevel. I live in a county with a state hospital(read: asylum), and the inmates there are people that were too crazy for prison. I'm talking less functional Hannibal Lector level crazy. Tard strength is a very real and dangerous thing. When your brain isn't firing correctly, the human body is capable of some amazing feats.
This may be post-hoc bs, but whenever I lift I'm bothered with the thought that, "If I had just pushed harder I could've done more."
Based on the information you all provided, looks like that's always the case even with the most hardcore lifter.
 
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When I read that he ripped off the cuffs I immediately thought of this scene from Gerald's Game. That's what I imagine whenever anyone says someone ripped their cuffs off. Straight up degloving.

Warning, don't watch if flaying bothers you, this shit almost made me faint the first time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QuDSh-TtvI

Now imagine that the guy doing that has AIDS or some other incurable disease that can be transmitted by exposure to blood, and I think you can understand why I really, really don't blame cops for exercising absurd levels of caution in nearly all cases where they have to deal with products of the glorious American ghetto system.
 
I would say negligence and perhaps a lesser murder charge for that. If that maneuver was by the book, and it caused enough controversy, then have the rule be rewritten. Don't entirely blame the person just going by the book.
IIRC, the most recent training for MPD had also taken the neck hold out of favor for a long time, because of the risk of contributing to positional asphyxia. There was a case in 2013 where the MPD killed a man in custody because of how they restrained them, suffocating them to death as the officers pretty much said 'if you're speaking you're not choking.'

The family settled with the city for 3 million dollars and the prosecutor declined to bring charges. The officers at the scene did attempt to save the man's life once they realized he'd stopped breathing, which is a difference between this case and that one.

If they didn't rewrite policy after that, then fuck, what would make them rewrite policy?

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Found a little more information, which I think might shed a bit of light on this whole thing, along with the 'recovery' position. Which is with the suspect on the side - head propped up. One of the officers was asking Chauvin if they should do this, Chauvin said no. There might be some stuff within the MPD with them trying to cover their own ass/training officers not getting the new material or ignoring it, there's a lot up in the air.
 
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This is my stance, there was a point where Floyd was entirely unresponsive and I believe Lane comments that he cannot find a pulse. At this point Chauvin should have transitioned to resuscitation rather than just idly waiting for the ambulance to arrive. The entire crowd was pointing this fact out yet Chauvin persisted in his positional hold on Floyd. To me he is guilty of negligent homicide along with the asian cop, Thao. Thao had been a part time, recently full time cop for about 7 years and Chauvin had been for 15. Lane and Kueng were on their first week of the job so I don't count them as having enough experience or confidence to override a senior officer like Chauvin. I find everything being done by the book until Floyd went unresponsive and I think that is a reasonable stance for most of society to take. Charges of Murder are totally out of line in my eyes.
It's wild how important the imagery of Chauvin on Floyd's neck is to them. The response it provokes is more valuable than actual justice it seems. What you describe is their best hope for conviction and a change in procedure, but instead they choose to argue conspiracies of fake autopsies, a corrupt medical examiner, and a cop secretly yearning to kill minorities. Evidence be damned, the court of public opinion is more important anyway.
 
This may be post-hoc bs, but whenever I lift I'm bothered with the thought that, "If I had just pushed harder I could've done more."
Based on the information you all provided, looks like that's always the case even with the most hardcore lifter.
The real gainz pill is to deliberately give yourself brain damage to unlock retard tier lifting strength. My gainz have been through the roof since I started huffing the arc welding off gasses.
 
CNN and MSNBC are both showing Joe Fucking Biden instead of the trial.

Lügenpresse.
The same thing that happened with the impeachment, they already know this is not going to fly, expect them only making mentions and then total radio silence until the mob start to get uppity again

Redefining banana republic
With due respect a black man killed by the police is just routine here and we dont make a drama about it, if a police kill a addict he get a bonus

As far as i can tell, the guy is going to get acquitted because they need the narrative that the system is full of white supremacist, a win to BLM is just meaningless because their business is the grift, the system has to be show to be ubber garbage for the black people so those pity shekels keep flowing, they are going to sabotage this on purpose
 
Powerlevel. I live in a county with a state hospital(read: asylum), and the inmates there are people that were too crazy for prison. I'm talking less functional Hannibal Lector level crazy. Tard strength is a very real and dangerous thing. When your brain isn't firing correctly, the human body is capable of some amazing feats.
Makes you wonder how they got them in there, in the first place. I saw a guy on tv who was constantly smearing his cell with shit and said that he was working for the CIA. The guard blamed this on the state (Pennsylvania or one of the New England states) curtailing the psych wards.

Another prison had a cell block filled with people screaming and pounding on their reinforced doors, and the guard who was being interviewed said that they hoped that they don't manage to break down their doors.

There's an third guy who killed a fellow fisherman out of paranoia and threw him overboard. He was caught after doing the same thing in a different state and was sent to the psych block of the prison. Now, he's perfectly normal when he's on his meds; but they showed him banging on cell window during a time when he refused to take them.

The life of an prison guard is a thankless job.
 
I just don't understand how not holding people of crime accountable for their actions is a remedy for sYsTeMiC wAyCiSm. I remember there was this video a while back of some nibba robbing a store at gunpoint and the clerk pulled out a gun and scratched that itch inside his chest cavity and then his sister was on the news like "Yea he wuz robbin yall, OH WELL, you di'int have to shoot him!" And people were outraged but at the end of the day pointing a gun at someone who also has a gun is a very good way to get shot and I guess it's just me but if I did that and got shot I'd be like "Well I guess I had that coming."
There was a case in Philadelphia where the police responded to a call where a Black male had a knife. The interaction was recorded, multiple times the cops told Wallace to "put the knife down." It ended with the cops shooting Wallace. One of the bystanders cried out: "You didn't have to shoot him THAT MANY TIMES!"


I don't understand it either. All this is going to do is diminish police presence or action in majority Black neighborhoods. If this is the common reaction no matter the full story, what's the point of trying?

We're truly our own worst enemy.
 
There was a case in Philadelphia where the police responded to a call where a Black male had a knife. The interaction was recorded, multiple times the cops told Wallace to "put the knife down." It ended with the cops shooting Wallace. One of the bystanders cried out: "You didn't have to shoot him THAT MANY TIMES!"


I don't understand it either. All this is going to do is diminish police presence or action in majority Black neighborhoods. If this is the common reaction no matter the full story, what's the point of trying?

We're truly our own worst enemy.
Part of it is the legacy of Philly PD in that area of the city. They fucking bombed a building once, with kids inside. Philly police were notoriously violent for a long time.

EDIT: If you don't know about the 1985 MOVE bombing, I recommend looking into them. It's basically Waco, but nobody cared since it was black people in the city. Philly PD's fuckup burned down 65 houses.
 
Part of it is the legacy of Philly PD in that area of the city. They fucking bombed a building once, with kids inside. Philly police were notoriously violent for a long time.

That's understanding. But at the same time, there are clear cases where police shootings are justified. Hence, that.

No wonder Philly is in the state it is now. American history is fucked.
 
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Even under Castle Doctrine there is no justification for opening fire on someone, sight unseen, who doesn’t represent an immediate threat.
I’ve read that part of the shooter’s concern was that black drug dealers will often misrepresent themselves as cops when attacking other drug dealers’ premises in order to gain a tactical advantage.
However, it should be noted that people uninvolved in the drug trade are highly unlikely to have this happen, and even less likely to respond to ‘knock knock, open up, it’s the police’ by shooting through a closed door.
The final thing to point out is that when cops are expecting a shooting response, they don’t stand in front of the door they’re knocking on, to avoid these exact kinds of shootings.
All these things seem to me to point towards Breonna Taylor’s boyfriend being involved in the drug trade. I just wish it had been him that caught one in the bob, not her, if only to save us human beings from months of chimp tantrums.
He was. They found proof of that on his phone.


Regardless of how this case plays out it's gonna put a magnifying glass on every negative police interaction with blacks going forward, worse than even before. Even if they completely deserve to get shot or curb stomped ruffed up, it's always gonna be "Oh my gosh dey di'int deserve dat!"

I just don't understand how not holding people of crime accountable for their actions is a remedy for sYsTeMiC wAyCiSm. I remember there was this video a while back of some nibba robbing a store at gunpoint and the clerk pulled out a gun and scratched that itch inside his chest cavity and then his sister was on the news like "Yea he wuz robbin yall, OH WELL, you di'int have to shoot him!" And people were outraged but at the end of the day pointing a gun at someone who also has a gun is a very good way to get shot and I guess it's just me but if I did that and got shot I'd be like "Well I guess I had that coming."
This is already happening to an extreme. Did you not see the response to that fat bitch a few weeks ago. Car comes up with arrest warrant. Officer finds drugs. She runs, fights him, tanks a taser, he tries to pull her out of the car she has climbed back into. PULLS OUT A FUCKING GUN. And the officer still doesn't shoot until he gets shot first. And yet COP BAD was all that I was seeing from half the people talking about it.
 

That's understanding. But at the same time, there are clear cases where police shootings are justified. Hence, that.

No wonder Philly is in the state it is now. American history is fucked.
The '78 shooting one sort of was (the raid was unnecessary tbh) but the '85 incident was pretty fucking disgusting. Philly PD pretty much let an entire block burn down.
 
@formershroomeryuser can you keep your sperging on this thread instead of spamming up @Just Here for A and H profile on a comment chain that's 2 months old?
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EDIT: If you don't know about the 1985 MOVE bombing, I recommend looking into them. It's basically Waco, but nobody cared since it was black people in the city. Philly PD's fuckup burned down 65 houses.
I guess this explains why Portland refuses to allow the feds to take action.

So, America DOES has a racist history which explains the state of certain cities.

The '78 shooting one sort of was (the raid was unnecessary tbh) but the '85 incident was pretty fucking disgusting. Philly PD pretty much let an entire block burn down.
Absolutely disturbing. But they were Black, so like you said, whatever. The day America declares war on itself.
 
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I'm not familiar with how the United States justice system operates, so I'll ask something basic - can a judge/jury choose to completely ignore a medical expertise if it doesn't fit their bias towards a given case?
A jury is allowed to convict or acquit as they see fit, regardless of evidence presented. See ’Fully Informed Jury Association’.
 
Liberals see nignogs on the iq level of toddlers. They can do no wrong
That's why they want them addicted to sucking on Big Nanny's tit. Black people actually acting as full agents in control of their destiny terrifies them. You won't see many of these people quoting a guy like Booker T. Washington.
A jury is allowed to convict or acquit as they see fit, regardless of evidence presented. See ’Fully Informed Jury Association’.
That isn't jury nullification, though. It's just the jury hearing testimony and saying "that guy is completely full of shit" and disregarding their testimony. Jury nullification is when the jury, despite the law and despite having accepted facts that show the violation of a law, still say "fuck this shit we're not convicting this guy" for whatever reason, but generally, because they feel that either the law itself or the specific prosecution is unjust.

Juries have every right to do this. I personally probably wouldn't because I'd usually find it unethical, but I'd probably be stricken from a jury if I admitted that not only do I know of jury nullification but generally approve of at least its existence.
 
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