The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
  • Poll closed .
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George Floyd did not overdose on opioids. He had traces of opioid metabolites in his blood. The levels of metabolites would leave toxicologists to believe he had not had any opioids in his system that day as if he was high he would have fentanyl in his system not metabolites. For example a man high on marijuana has thc in his blood. A week later a man high on marijuana would have metabolites dissolved from fatty tissues. Also opioids make a person completely subdued while intoxicated it not is like taking methamphetamine where someone is freaking out super adrenaline rushed.

George Floyd died of cardio pulmonary arrest. Yes it is a heart attack. But one consistent with a lack of oxygen where the heart does not "flutter" but restricts all together. When a person over doses it is usually a type of heart attack where the heart is pumping so fast the rhythm becomes inconsistent and one vessel stops pumping as fast as the other. This was not the case for George Floyd.

In George Floyd's case it would appear a lack of oxygen killed him but there is argument that a lack of oxygen would lead to violent bruising inside the persons chest as they struggled for air. This is often the case with a victim suffocated with a cloth or a pillow or hands where they are facing up and their body can make violent movements as they struggle even though their face is compressed. This was not George Floyd's circumstance.

His chest was compressed on his back. So much so if the knee had been more on the neck then on the back it would not have been as effective since he was face down the knee pressure would have been on the spine not blocking air and blood to the brain.

In George Floyd's case the weight on the back did not even necessarily stop air from going into his lungs but the pressure stopped him from breathing in deeply and getting air evenly and the weight on his chest from 5 men holding him down surely stopped his heart from pumping even blood even with a lack of a supply of oxygen. Obviously him talking did not help him live longer using up precious little oxygen and breathing.


Its all right here. So anyone saying to me "you are an immature faggot that cannot argue with facts" there are your facts.

George Floyd was probably not murdered in the 1st degree in a pre meditated attempt even though George Floyd and the officer seemed to know each other from past run ins. But anyone taking a good look at the toxicology report can see that the symptoms of his type of heart attack were consistent with a lack of oxygen and not drug overdose which seems to effect the heart more in area then the other more damage to certain veins then others. George Floyds veins pretty much all stopped functioning in uniform fashion.

I believe this trial will go to the prosecution but for manslaughter not attempted murder. Its just facts. This is the ambiguity of the case the nature of the broader view of the facts put together.

Everything else is just to muck things up. Who hates who. Who is black and who is white. Who likes who and who doesn't. Do cops kill people as much as the media paints it out. Does it matter that he was black. Statistics of hate crimes and cop murders face value etc. Its all bullshit its all a strawman to point away from the facts. True hyperbole if I have ever seen it.

None of the statistics of hate crimes matter as anything else but opinions. This is what matters: George Floyd was killed probably accidentally but it remains 3rd degree murder it remains careless manslaughter. He was a big man that took 5 cops to handcuff him. But once handcuffed they all sat on him and depleted his oxygen intake and blood flow and he said he was in pain while a group of people stood around screaming at the cops to get off him and check his pulse and the cops did not.

In contrast the ambulance got there in record time. This should be looked into. Any evidence any of the cops themselves called the ambulance? They seemed not at all preoccupied with the idea George Floyd was in trouble at all and anything but high. I don't know. It could have been a bystander that called that in. The ambulance did its job. The cops did not beyond initially restraining George Floyd as he was obviously resisting.

All the "another fentanyl addict nigger died while a hero cop in the line of duty did his job well" comments do not change the facts. But oh well carry on. It doesn't change shit. There is a mob but why I believe its BLM this time is a notion beyond me. They seem pretty peaceful right now. But there definitely is a hate mob supporting violence right now that is obvious.
I've rarely outside of reddit seen such rampant and irresponsible speculation presented as "facts." Another case of a midwit believing he's Socrates because fellow midwits gave him some phony likes.
 
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Lol not as mad as the world is at George Floyd for existing.

Or as mad as the BLM protestors will be if Chauvin walks away free.

I doubt he will though. Lucky that many people get to live through an environment free of riots because of that.

Consequence wise Chauvin being convicted will probably save thousands of lives.

Which is the same mentality used to justify why these cops killed this guy. So one life is clearly < the masses of lives. Convict him I say.

Nothing like members of society getting to live longer and breathe more.
Nice Reddit spacing, now please go back and stay go.
 
Also, COPS is back. They started filming again late last year.
Not exactly. The production company might have gotten Paramount Network to let them cancel the show, but the overseas stations that bought/helped pay for the show's production said "hell fucking no" to the production company caving to the lynch mob that sought to kill any reality TV show that showed police in a positive light like they did and basically told them they owed them a new season (which they did) and would sue them if they didn't deliver it. So they are creating a new season purely for the overseas markets that carry the show and have explicitly stated the final season won't see the light of day in the US period and that the show is still irrevocably dead because of the piece of shit Floyd.
 
Bruh, you aren't going to convince anyone here at this point, just calm down, walk away, come back in 3 months or so.

Id prefer to get 75 dislikes for every post I make within a minute and 30 seconds.

What is wrong with that? Its like a tidal wave of internet gangster bullets coming at me. They are so painful I was hoping Chauvin's friends would call an ambulance but to no avail

"Man gets extremely passionate trying to convince gossip/troll forum to be REALLY NICE to black people, more at 12"

No one on here is black. One person is pretending he used to be a cop. No one on here is a cop. Or isn't white. Or pays for their internet. Or buys their own drugs. Facts
 
George Floyd did not overdose on opioids. He had traces of opioid metabolites in his blood. The levels of metabolites would leave toxicologists to believe he had not had any opioids in his system that day as if he was high he would have fentanyl in his system not metabolites. For example a man high on marijuana has thc in his blood. A week later a man high on marijuana would have metabolites dissolved from fatty tissues. Also opioids make a person completely subdued while intoxicated it not is like taking methamphetamine where someone is freaking out super adrenaline rushed.

George Floyd died of cardio pulmonary arrest. Yes it is a heart attack. But one consistent with a lack of oxygen where the heart does not "flutter" but restricts all together. When a person over doses it is usually a type of heart attack where the heart is pumping so fast the rhythm becomes inconsistent and one vessel stops pumping as fast as the other. This was not the case for George Floyd.

In George Floyd's case it would appear a lack of oxygen killed him but there is argument that a lack of oxygen would lead to violent bruising inside the persons chest as they struggled for air. This is often the case with a victim suffocated with a cloth or a pillow or hands where they are facing up and their body can make violent movements as they struggle even though their face is compressed. This was not George Floyd's circumstance.

His chest was compressed on his back. So much so if the knee had been more on the neck then on the back it would not have been as effective since he was face down the knee pressure would have been on the spine not blocking air and blood to the brain.

In George Floyd's case the weight on the back did not even necessarily stop air from going into his lungs but the pressure stopped him from breathing in deeply and getting air evenly and the weight on his chest from 5 men holding him down surely stopped his heart from pumping even blood even with a lack of a supply of oxygen. Obviously him talking did not help him live longer using up precious little oxygen and breathing.


Its all right here. So anyone saying to me "you are an immature faggot that cannot argue with facts" there are your facts.

George Floyd was probably not murdered in the 1st degree in a pre meditated attempt even though George Floyd and the officer seemed to know each other from past run ins. But anyone taking a good look at the toxicology report can see that the symptoms of his type of heart attack were consistent with a lack of oxygen and not drug overdose which seems to effect the heart more in area then the other more damage to certain veins then others. George Floyds veins pretty much all stopped functioning in uniform fashion.

I believe this trial will go to the prosecution but for manslaughter not attempted murder. Its just facts. This is the ambiguity of the case the nature of the broader view of the facts put together.

Everything else is just to muck things up. Who hates who. Who is black and who is white. Who likes who and who doesn't. Do cops kill people as much as the media paints it out. Does it matter that he was black. Statistics of hate crimes and cop murders face value etc. Its all bullshit its all a strawman to point away from the facts. True hyperbole if I have ever seen it.

None of the statistics of hate crimes matter as anything else but opinions. This is what matters: George Floyd was killed probably accidentally but it remains 3rd degree murder it remains careless manslaughter. He was a big man that took 5 cops to handcuff him. But once handcuffed they all sat on him and depleted his oxygen intake and blood flow and he said he was in pain while a group of people stood around screaming at the cops to get off him and check his pulse and the cops did not.

In contrast the ambulance got there in record time. This should be looked into. Any evidence any of the cops themselves called the ambulance? They seemed not at all preoccupied with the idea George Floyd was in trouble at all and anything but high. I don't know. It could have been a bystander that called that in. The ambulance did its job. The cops did not beyond initially restraining George Floyd as he was obviously resisting.

All the "another fentanyl addict nigger died while a hero cop in the line of duty did his job well" comments do not change the facts. But oh well carry on. It doesn't change shit. There is a mob but why I believe its BLM this time is a notion beyond me. They seem pretty peaceful right now. But there definitely is a hate mob supporting violence right now that is obvious.
If this had been the only post you made in the thread people would have been much more receptive to your arguments.

Unfortunately you had to freak out and poison the well with a bunch of frankly embarrassing shit beforehand. Get off the internet and take a chill pill man, judging by your username you should know where to find them.
 
Goaded into a corner the police opted to blow the roof off and let the water cannons do their thing, this ended up with the fire getting out of control and since Firefighters wont go into an active combat zone the fire quickly spread to a large number of houses leaving the locals justifiably pissed.
Much like other similar situations (think Koresh), they had a lot of better options. They could just slowly whittle away at them, because at some point, people have to leave the compound to get food. So just arrest them then. Keep doing this. Wait until you get enough leaders that the place basically isn't functioning any more. THEN you move in.

It was absolutely insane they didn't do something like this with Koresh. He routinely left the compound. He had a daily jogging routine, where he was off the compound and by himself. Also, say what you like about him, he was a right cunt, but any time the local police had wanted to talk about something with him, he'd willingly gone in and talked to them. So they could have popped him while he was jogging alone, or just quite simply asked him to come in and answer some questions. His view of himself was such that he would have definitely come in just because he viewed himself as so superior to these LEAs he wouldn't have even been afraid of them.

Instead, the BATF, comprised of fucking idiots and morons, decided charging a heavily armed compound in a U-shaped area with multiple firing positions at high elevation above them was a better approach.

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Also there's a second floor (where iirc most of the shooting came from).

And these goddamn idiots thought charging this frontally was a good idea? And they apparently thought these people were dangerous maniacs. Well, do dangerous maniacs just instantly give up? And as a result of this, we not only got a situation where a bunch of innocent children died, but where a whole generation of militias were born and where Timothy McVeigh was inspired to take an awful revenge.
 
George Floyd did not overdose on opioids. He had traces of opioid metabolites in his blood. The levels of metabolites would leave toxicologists to believe he had not had any opioids in his system that day as if he was high he would have fentanyl in his system not metabolites. For example a man high on marijuana has thc in his blood. A week later a man high on marijuana would have metabolites dissolved from fatty tissues. Also opioids make a person completely subdued while intoxicated it not is like taking methamphetamine where someone is freaking out super adrenaline rushed.
The report says you don't know what you are talking about.
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He had both Fentanyl and metabolites in his system, your YouTube links don't trump reality.
 
Performative weeping is in vogue. From politicians to TV presenters, if anyone attempts to bring facts to the table just start 'crying your truth'.
Im ambivalent and have a lot of feelings about that sort of shit but my edgelord response is I wonder if theyd ever go full "over emotional teenager" and start threatening suicide. It seems like youre a couple steps away from that at that point.
Just goes to show that educated /= smart.
Whats that saying about knowing just enough to not realize you dont know anything at all?

Something like "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing"? One of those platitudes that can be interpreted a couple of ways.
 
No one on here is black. One person is pretending he used to be a cop. No one on here is a cop. Or isn't white. Or pays for their internet. Or buys their own drugs. Facts
There are a number of black people here. Like the white people here, they're usually pretty weird and not representative of their general population.
 
If this had been the only post you made in the thread people would have been much more receptive to your arguments.

Unfortunately you had to freak out and poison the well with a bunch of frankly embarrassing shit beforehand. Get off the internet and take a chill pill man, judging by your username you should know where to find them.

I buy them from your mom. You don't read anything anyway you just quote it then start typing your own mess

I am actually black though.

I am too. There are two of us. Lets get a BLM thing going on or are you not into BLM?
 
One of my friends was once violently assaulted by a man who was A) supposed to have been heavily sedated, B) in restraints, C) behind several inches of hardened glass. He broke B and smashed through C to get at them,

He didn't smash through "several inches of hardened glass". That's not even a good exaggeration, that's just a lie. His bones would have shattered long before the glass was significantly compromised. Even 2" thick tempered glass can withstand a literal 800lb gorilla charging at it.
 
Figured I'd ask here since the bodycam footage on its own is almost unintelligible half the time- why did the cops pull Floyd out of the car a few minutes after putting him in there?
 
There are a number of black people here. Like the white people here, they're usually pretty weird and not representative of their general population.

I think the white people are fairly representative of their general population. But the black people pretend to be white. Its a strange site.

Nothing is as it seems. Maybe Chauvin has been posting on here with internet access pretending to be someone else just to see how much support he has. While using fentanyl. He is getting money somehow. Just not as much as George Floyd's family is. They can thank Chauvin for that though.
 
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