Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

Joe just cleared everything up. He NEVER said George Eliot was trans. "Unquestionably trans" just doesn't mean "unquestionably trans" in this context, because "unquestionably" does not mean "unquestionably" within academia, which you uneducated plebs would already know if you were familiar with Joe's work.
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Lavatory is the only person on the planet to have ever read and studied George Eliot. Any Eliot reader who does not believe she is trans is just an anti-intellectual illiterate. Except there have been better educated and people of much higher intelligence than he who have studied Eliot’s work and never once did any of them get ~trans vibes~.

Lavery seems to be arguing that because women could publish under their names (no shit dude), it means that George Eliot chose her name to signal her queerness and not the myriad of other reasons that have been cited. At the end of the day it does all come down to him targeting Eliot because she used a male pen name. If she had called herself Mary Ann Evans, Lavery wouldn’t be desperately inventing evidence to trans her. His claim to figuring out she was trans by having some sort of exclusive access to her journals is fucking stupid, and it’s equally stupid that he pretends that TERFs are the only ones who don’t believe she was trans.

I notice his tweets have gotten little engagement apart from the regular “you go girl!” men. His argument isn’t as unquestionable and totally intellectual as he believes it is and it’s quite obvious his “fanbase” has little interest in literature.
 
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Joe just cleared everything up. He NEVER said George Eliot was trans. "Unquestionably trans" just doesn't mean "unquestionably trans" in this context, because "unquestionably" does not mean "unquestionably" within academia, which you uneducated plebs would already know if you were familiar with Joe's work.
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this fucking dude

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this pomo shit of tediously redefining every word you use and getting mad when people know the real definition and hold you to it.

As usual it takes Joe like ten passes to make his "best" argument because he keeps getting derailed by his blackout rages. This is what makes him so very fightable.

If contemporary women writers were saying they used male pseudonyms to have their work taken seriously, then that's why they did it. Honestly, a better theory would be they had ~internalized misogyny~, but Joe can't touch that can of worms without admitting how much he also hates women.
 
Lavery needs to take a break from responding to every single person on the planet who’s figured out he’s an idiot and not the academic powerhouse he believes he is. He was published because it’s literally his job to “queer” literature, not because he’s some genius wunderkind flying high above mortals. Congrats on doing your work Jos, we’re all extremely proud of you.
 
Lavery needs to take a break from responding to every single person on the planet who’s figured out he’s an idiot and not the academic powerhouse he believes he is. He was published because it’s literally his job to “queer” literature, not because he’s some genius wunderkind flying high above mortals. Congrats on doing your work Jos, we’re all extremely proud of you.
Joe's just another basic bitch Cluster B troon. His narcissism can't handle being wrong, so he's quintupling down on the hill he set up to die on.
 
As usual it takes Joe like ten passes to make his "best" argument because he keeps getting derailed by his blackout rages. This is what makes him so very fightable.
I think it takes him so long to make his best argument because he's making it up as he goes along. When he initially said "George Eliot was trans," he meant it. He rightfully got a huge backlash and went through his predictable rage-fueled process of accusing everyone who disagreed with him of being an illiterate, transphobic mong. It took a couple of days for him to decide that he was just joking when he made the claim.

I tried to watch the video of his presentation to see if there was more context to the George Eliot thing. There isn't. If you want to see it, 7:55 is a good place to start, trans claim is at about 8:12, then he quickly moves on. I couldn't get much further into the video; his sniffling was too disgusting. He was so cheesed off at that terf blogger for making fun of him but bro, do you not hear yourself? It's incredibly distracting.
 
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Joe and Mallory announce that they are now in a throuple with Lily Woodruff, a professor of art history from Michigan State University.
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Woodruff has been flirting with Joe on Twitter for months:
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Lily Woodruff seems perfectly sane and normal and healthy. I don't understand how she could possibly be horny for the repulsive Joe, but she obviously is, so...good for her, I guess? Even though I think it's gross, she's not hurting anyone. The addition of Woodruff into the poisonous Lavery stew actually mitigates the net degeneracy somehow. Best of luck to Ms Woodruff as she sucks the girldick. :semperfidelis:
 
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Those glasses are truly hideous! She's the most masculine-looking of the three.

She describes herself as a lesbian in tweets, so that's two lesbians Joe has "turned." She is 39. She writes/reads "Killing Eve" fanfiction.

...Oh, that kind of lesbian? I guess?
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I reckon Joe/Lily have been together for a while and convinced Mallory to join..... reading between the lines here, Joe was calling her his lover in November. Don't see many of her replies to Joe before like October, but I don't feel like going back much further. Definitely more normie and less drama-hungry than the other two, but still has brain worms.
 
Those glasses are truly hideous! She's the most masculine-looking of the three.

She describes herself as a lesbian in tweets, so that's two lesbians Joe has "turned." She is 39. She writes/reads "Killing Eve" fanfiction.

...Oh, that kind of lesbian? I guess?
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I reckon Joe/Lily have been together for a while and convinced Mallory to join..... reading between the lines here, Joe was calling her his lover in November. Don't see many of her replies to Joe before like October, but I don't feel like going back much further. Definitely more normie and less drama-hungry than the other two, but still has brain worms.
"As someone who considers herself a lesbian who likes to have sex with men..."

I like how she said that instead of just "as a lesbian," because literally no one else would "consider" her a lesbian. You're not a lesbian you dumb cow, you're a straight woman with an ugly haircut. Liking cock disqualifies you from being a lesbian by definition.
 
To my untrained eyes that woman looks quite a lot like pre-troon Mallory. A slightly leaner and manlier version of Mallory.
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"As someone who considers herself a lesbian who likes to have sex with men..."

I like how she said that instead of just "as a lesbian," because literally no one else would "consider" her a lesbian. You're not a lesbian you dumb cow, you're a straight woman with an ugly haircut. Liking cock disqualifies you from being a lesbian by definition.
What if she only likes girldick?
 
"As someone who considers herself a lesbian who likes to have sex with men..."

I like how she said that instead of just "as a lesbian," because literally no one else would "consider" her a lesbian. You're not a lesbian you dumb cow, you're a straight woman with an ugly haircut. Liking cock disqualifies you from being a lesbian by definition.

I'd wager she's just your average bihet bint.

"Does fucking someone because you hate yourself counts" - I wonder if this is in relation to Mallory? As in, Lily just puts up with Mallory to have full-time access to Joe's true and honest lesbian girldick? 🤔

Also, she looks mentally ill enough on her own (going polyamorous at nearly 40 years old doesn't scream sound mind; she also has crazy eyes), and I'm excited to see how their little polycule will fare now Lily has joined überneurotic Mallory (who certainly won't dive headfirst in a mental downwards spiral of self-loathing and overthinking now that they're sharing their roof with a woman who still has her tits and looks more masculine than Mallory herself without trying nearly as hard, nooo ) and Joe, the turbonarcissist sadist who takes great joy in destroying his women's dignity and sense of boundaries.

This is going to be fun! :popcorn:
 
"As someone who considers herself a lesbian who likes to have sex with men..."

I like how she said that instead of just "as a lesbian," because literally no one else would "consider" her a lesbian. You're not a lesbian you dumb cow, you're a straight woman with an ugly haircut. Liking cock disqualifies you from being a lesbian by definition.
Are we totally sure she’s not a transbian? It’s so hard to tell with all the filters used anymore. Lilly seems very flat chested, yet appears to be wearing a bra in some photos which is usually a troon thing.

Maybe Lilly just wanted to move to Brooklyn but with how expensive it is, and the whole art professor job in Michigan, this was her best bet?

It does show just being the “edgy cool friend” secures positions in certain academic depts. I’m assuming art history is under the rubric of the art dept so being the hippest, edgiest, lesbian with a leather jacket would help win over the act faculty crowd.

I think after Joe crushed Mallory under heel and transformed her into the Donald Gibb’s (Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds) hairy little sister he remembered he was actually attracted to very soft butch lesbians so got himself a new one. I wonder if he gets hard thinking about convincing Lilly to take testosterone, getting a clenis and making her as unattractive as himself.

The one reason I believe Lilly is a female is I don’t think Joe gets off on subjugating guys with swinging dicks. The only dick allowed is his own.
 
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Does this man have a 12” rager or something? How does he keep doing this to women?
Why do women keep falling for it? Joe is the dullest, most weak chinned beta imaginable, just one step up the evolutionary ladder from Ro Oger.

Nah, it's more like narcissists are extremely good at seducing other personality-disordered people.
 
Why do women keep falling for it? Joe is the dullest, most weak chinned beta imaginable, just one step up the evolutionary ladder from Ro Oger.
They LIKE his bullshit, they think he’s clever and witty, and that they’re all going to live happily ever after in the land of Grand Ideas (“Wat if Moby Dick a trans??”) and jejune eroticism.
 
They LIKE his bullshit, they think he’s clever and witty, and that they’re all going to live happily ever after in the land of Grand Ideas (“Wat if Moby Dick a trans??”) and jejune eroticism.
No, I reckon @CobraPlissken is right. He specifically targets women with serious issues, love-bombs them, showers them with unwavering attention, compliments, maybe even gifts - then grooms and ruins them. That would be in line with his Cluster B.
 
Lily Woodruff seems perfectly sane and normal and healthy.
Because nothing says perfectly sane like having a butch lesbian haircut, crossdressing, and joining the Lavery poly clusterfuck.
Why do women keep falling for it? Joe is the dullest, most weak chinned beta imaginable, just one step up the evolutionary ladder from Ro Oger.
They are weak penis envy women (one is trans, the other one crossdresses) who are too intimidated by masculine men because they themselves are insecure self hating little bitches.
 
Are we totally sure she’s not a transbian? It’s so hard to tell with all the filters used anymore. Lilly seems very flat chested, yet appears to be wearing a bra in some photos which is usually a troon thing.
Lily is a common name for troons and a lesbian who fucks men is a common trope for transbians but she definitely looks female.

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This thread sure is paying off.
 
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Because nothing says perfectly sane like having a butch lesbian haircut, crossdressing, and joining the Lavery poly clusterfuck.
Her hair and clothes look fine to me, there's nothing wrong with being butch. The only WTF part is why she's consorting with Joe and Mallory.

Anyway, Joe must be actively searching Twitter for randos to harass because he has once again swooped in on a tiny account who dared to talk about George Eliot while otherwise minding their own business. This guy tweeted his take to his 747 followers. Did not tag Joe, did not interact:
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Joe takes it one step further and tweets out to his (Joe's) 31,000 followers that the guy is "dumb":
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Then has the gall to refer to his embarrassing rage meltdown as "public humanities work" that he is proud of! He somehow thinks he owned the terfs.
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I didn't think anything could be a bigger joke than Rhys McKinnon's "public philosophy" but here we are.
 
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