The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
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I'm 99% sure the posts on 4chan telling 4chan not to raid reddit were thinly disguised raid requests tbh. "Oh no, don't raid Reddit, our big bad jannies will super ban you! You better not test this!". Yeah, sure, okay.
If the average redditor wasn't a colossal dipshit, I'd 100% agree.
 
Can they add him after the fact? I mean in the event it goes tits up and we're in week 6 does the, as defendant, have dinner kind of right to say his piece even if not named initially?
Yes I’m pretty sure he can decide to testify right up until the last minute. So depending how the rest of the prosecution case goes, if it looks like he’s up shit creek without a paddle then he could well take the risk.
 
Well, that answers one of my questions. I think it is a mistake not to call Chauvin himself, but obviously, defense counsel has more information than I do. Maybe he really is a complete piece of shit and they can't put him on the stand. I still think if the jury doesn't have any idea what Chauvin was actually thinking, they will tend to fill in that empty space with the most negative inferences available.

That said, if the prosecution keeps nuking their own case, why interrupt them?
I disagree. There's not much Chauvin can realistically say other than "I did not kill George Floyd and I was acting according to my training". Putting him on the stand just allows the prosecution to prod him om the stand until he says something incriminating. Better to let the evidence and witnesses speak for themselves in this case.
 
Its not hard. You mix it with something else, so it's bound in a heavier medium. 1 ng is tough, but 1 g containing 1ng is easy.

Think of coffee. Caffeine kills you pretty quick but no one has that issue.
Caffeine is distributed throughout the coffee bean on a microscopic, biological level. Fentanyl is distributed in pills by a Mexican with 5 lbs of corn flour, a stir stick, and a pill press.

The issue is that a tiny clump or the stuff can stick together and then you get pills with 10x the intended dose. The safe way to do it--and the way that real chemists create dilutions--is to dissolve it in an excess of liquid with whatever you're trying to mix with it and then evaporate it under vacuum. Even then, you have to understand how each of those substances forms crystals as they come out of solution or you'll be right back where you started.

Unfortunately, fentanyl is insoluble in water, so you'd need an organic solvent, and who the fuck has time for that?
 
That's irrelevant though. Even if you're taking a 50 or 100ng clump of fentanyl and making 50 30mg pills, you have to mix it until the fent is perfectly distributed, which isnt easily achieved. More likely, you'd have pills varying on doses by 200-300%.
Generally these reactions take place in solution, which is by definition homogenous, and extremely reliably so. Probably done while the fentanyl was synthesized

To put how easy it is into picture, we did dilutions in uni, and I was able to make 3 solutions measuring 3.5, 3.5, and 3.4 ng/mL solutions.all which read that value when sampled multiple times. All while shoveling sphaghetti into my pockets because my lab mate was way out of my league and super friendly.

Caffeine is distributed throughout the coffee bean on a microscopic, biological level. Fentanyl is distributed in pills by a Mexican with 5 lbs of corn flour, a stir stick, and a pill press.

The issue is that a tiny clump or the stuff can stick together and then you get pills with 10x the intended dose. The safe way to do it--and the way that real chemists create dilutions--is to dissolve it in an excess of liquid with whatever you're trying to mix with it and then evaporate it under vacuum. Unfortunately, fentanyl is insoluble in water, so you'd need an organic solvent, and who the fuck has time for that?
Maybe a better example was soda.

Regardless, we went from "You'd need microgram scale" to "They'd have to use amazon". Any idiot can order that online.
 
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I just think attorneys learned their lesson about putting cops on the stand after Mark Fuhrman. That was a prosecution whoopsie, but still. I think even a very clean cop might come off as too tough or insensitive for juries. It's fine if they're just a witness, but no-nonsense answers can come off as cold if people are looking to ascribe motive to you.
 
Caffeine is distributed throughout the coffee bean on a microscopic, biological level. Fentanyl is distributed in pills by a Mexican with 5 lbs of corn flour, a stir stick, and a pill press.

The issue is that a tiny clump or the stuff can stick together and then you get pills with 10x the intended dose. The safe way to do it--and the way that real chemists create dilutions--is to dissolve it in an excess of liquid with whatever you're trying to mix with it and then evaporate it under vacuum. Unfortunately, fentanyl is insoluble in water, so you'd need an organic solvent, and who the fuck has time for that?
So how would you go about making fentanyl in a safe manner? Would it even be worth the effort?
 
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It's generally a bad idea to put the person you're defending on the witness stand, one reason being because they'll be subject to cross-examination by the prosecution and subjects that are detrimental to the defense may be allowed. They also might not be a good witness overall.
I agree in general, but not in this specific case. The defense has made a strategic choice, though, with more information than I have. Apparently Eric Nelson is a specialist in defending cops and has a very good reputation at doing it, so I'll just see what happens. I'm sure he has reasoning behind his decision, unlike whatever the fuck the prosecution is using to make theirs.
 
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