The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

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Fields Of Rye said:
Generally these reactions take place in solution, which is by definition homogenous, and extremely reliably so. Probably done with the fentanyl was synthesized

To put how easy it is into picture, we did dilutions in uni, and I was able to make 3 solutions measuring 3.5, 3.5, and 3.4 ng/mL solutions.all which read that value when sampled multiple times. All while shoveling sphaghetti into my pockets because my lab mate was way out of my league and super friendly.
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So then I wonder why overdoses from cut drugs are as common as clouds in the sky.
I personally know 3 individuals that were killed by poorly cut drugs and I barely know any users.
 
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7he47r0n said:
So how would you go about making fentanyl in a safe manner? Would it even be worth the effort?
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I should clarify that fentanyl citrate is soluble in water, and that's what's used in most pharmaceutical preparations. Admittedly, I have no idea which salt the cartels get from China, but I did see a show where they were prepping "mexican Oxys" with fent and the only precaution was to add some water so the filler turned into a paste and bound the fentanyl powder, so the dust didn't kill them.

Here's a guide to a legit compounding method, if you're curious.
 
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BrokenLightbulbs said:
So then I wonder why overdoses from cut drugs are as common as clouds in the sky.
I personally know 3 individuals that were killed by poorly cut drugs and I barely know any users.
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Generally it's almost always because they don't know its in or overestimate it's strength. I'm normally not one to defend backyard Turpentine Heroin, but just like the frat bro punch bowl, the people who end up in hospital aren't there because the frat guys didn't know what they were doing.

oh yeah, also purity differences. Someone mention them getting high quality salt from China, but frequently you don't get 100% yield in these situations, and Fentanyl is very similar to morphine property wise. If I were to pin it on manufacturing error, it would be one dude knowing his shit and ripping out some high quality shit.
 
DamnWolves! said:
I should clarify that fentanyl citrate is soluble in water, and that's what's used in most pharmaceutical preparations. Admittedly, I have no idea which salt the cartels get from China, but I did see a show where they were prepping "mexican Oxys" with fent and the only precaution was to add some water so the filler turned into a paste and bound the fentanyl powder, so the dust didn't kill them.

Here's a guide to a legit compounding method, if you're curious.
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That's an interesting lecture. Does fentanyl also causes muscle relaxation?
 
BrokenLightbulbs said:
So then I wonder why overdoses from cut drugs are as common as clouds in the sky.
I personally know 3 individuals that were killed by poorly cut drugs and I barely know any users.
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Because the people cutting the drugs are usually themselves blasted out of their gourds and they are cutting the drugs not just to make more money but to funnel the drugs into their own veins.
7he47r0n said:
So how would you go about making fentanyl in a safe manner? Would it even be worth the effort?
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By being in an actual pharmaceutical lab and having professionals do it. There is no safe manner for having drug addicts and freaks and criminals making it.
 
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DamnWolves! said:
I should clarify that fentanyl citrate is soluble in water, and that's what's used in most pharmaceutical preparations. Admittedly, I have no idea which salt the cartels get from China, but I did see a show where they were prepping "mexican Oxys" with fent and the only precaution was to add some water so the filler turned into a paste and bound the fentanyl powder, so the dust didn't kill them.

Here's a guide to a legit compounding method, if you're curious.
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This thread went from "lol dancing chimp has banana" to "heres a diy on how to properly and safely manufacture drugs" real quick.
 
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7he47r0n said:
I feel truly sorry for the older black generation. Imagine living through decades of actual racism and discrimination
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I got one for you: Black people have always oversold their discrimination and been openly hostile to whites, even the "good old ones." It's just that whites pushed back and kept them in their place. This is what you get when you give them the benefit of the doubt. Discrimination makes sense when you live in reality, and no matter what the media tries to tell you, literally every single white person in this thread will cross the street to avoid a black guy more than a white guy.
 
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Fields Of Rye said:
To put how easy it is into picture, we did dilutions in uni, and I was able to make 3 solutions measuring 3.5, 3.5, and 3.4 ng/mL solutions.all which read that value when sampled multiple times. All while shoveling sphaghetti into my pockets because my lab mate was way out of my league and super friendly.
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I think you project your non-druggie/criminal rational thought and care for safety onto the kind of person that really does not give a fuck about that kinda stuff.
Drug-dealers are typically not exactly taking things that precisely unless it hurts them financially or could blow up, and they usually also dont have university-tier education (or really any education) on how to safely handle chemicals. Some guy with an IQ of 85 and drugs in his system is most likely still less competent than you even with a distraction. Add to that a generally dirty environment, and you get a pill-factory that may very well have shit-tier manufacturing tolerances.
 
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S.C.U.D. said:
if you don't have dedicated livesaving equipment (AKA floatation devices to throw at the drowning people), and you go into the water to try and save a drowning person, you will both drown.
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not necessarily, lifeguards are trained to go in and rescue drowning swimmers without equipment
they're also taught about when and when not to go in like that though: you're supposed to avoid going in if the drowner is larger and heavier than you are, or if there's more drowners than lifeguards. and of course you should only attempt a rescue if you're trained to do it, and i doubt cops get that kind of training at all so yeah staying away is probably for the best in that case
 
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AnOminous said:
Because the people cutting the drugs are usually themselves blasted out of their gourds and they are cutting the drugs not just to make more money but to funnel the drugs into their own veins.

By being in an actual pharmaceutical lab and having professionals do it. There is no safe manner for having drug addicts and freaks and criminals making it.
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I'm sorry, my question wasn't clear enough - if someone had the means to actually produce such drugs, should said person even bother with fentanyl?
 
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