The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[Not Really Here]

So, this lolbert believes Fox News? Or are they not MSM enough despite pulling in bigger audiences than CNN?

Somehow nearly everybody has been conned into believing that the source of information indicates accuracy.
When did people stop teaching their kids that a stopped clock is still right twice a day?

 

[Pink Lily]

The medical examiners testimony will be big. The amount of Fentanyl is large and way above the ‘therapeutic dose’ however no addict sticks to the ‘therapeutic dose’. Coupled with Floyd’s size being a factor, what could knock any of us out would be ‘just enough’ for him. I do hope the prosecution have a drug expert who can testify to drug tolerance and dependency. When you develop tolerance to a drug you need more and more of it to feel the same effect.

The body cam footage shows that Floyd was terrified of dying, his girlfriend testified that he had OD’d in March and she had taken him to hospital, he stated to officers as he pleaded with them not to shoot him ‘I’ve been shot before, man’. I don’t think he was a man who would be purposely messing around with doses, if anything those events could have made him more careful when it came to how much he was taking. They will hammer in on the Fentanyl being 11ng/mL, but he wasn’t showing signs of fentanyl overdose inside cupfoods or in the minutes leading up to being restrained. Infact he looked more like he was under the influence of a stimulant if anything. Anyway, if the officers believed him to be under the influence, they should have been paying even more attention to his condition for signs of overdose.

Whichever way they come from, Chauvin totally fucked up by showing such complete disregard for Floyd’s worsening condition whilst being knelt on. Even when bystanders were telling him desperately that he was not responding and Lane asked if they should roll him over to check him. He completely ignored protocol and the police seargent is seriously pissed, understandably. The side glares whenever he mentioned Chauvin’s name were a highlight.
This is only the prosecution’s turn though, the defense haven’t even begun to present their case yet.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Why I can't watch the Derek Chauvin trial

Opinion: Why I can't watch the Derek Chauvin trial - CNN

archived 2 Apr 2021 12:19:36 UTC

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[Jimjamflimflam]

Why I can't watch the Derek Chauvin trial

https://archive.md/jJ9TS

Trigger Trial

>Won't watch the trial
>Never watched the footage

But she has a lot of strong opinions as facts about the entire case though.

 

[Plank]

Analysis of day 4 from attorney Andrew Branca is up here (there is a blog version and podcast version).

https://lawofselfdefense.com/chauvin-trial-day-4-wrap-up-another-poor-day-for-prosecution-advantage-defense/

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/chauvin-trial-day-4-wrap-up-another-poor-day-for-prosecution-advantage-defense/

State’s Witness: Seth Bravender, Paramedic, Hennepin EMS

Bravender also agreed that he’d told earlier investigators that when he arrived on scene Floyd was on his left side. This is important because the state is in part arguing that Floyd died of positional asphyxia because he was kept prone on his stomach, and should instead have been in the “recovery position.” Well, the recovery position is to be up on one side of the body, and the left side suits this purpose just fine. Thus Bravender’s description placed Floyd in precisely the recovery position the state argues was appropriate.

Right out of the Minnesota police training material.

On another important issue, Nelson asked Bravender if sometimes people who overdose become violent when they are resuscitated or regain consciousness. Although the state objected, Cahill allowed the question, and Bravender answered in the affirmative. Indeed, Bravender testified, he’d personally seen it happen.

Once again right out of the police training where suspects who are ODing need to be restrained because of the risk of sudden outbursts of violence.

 

[NyQuilninja]

The medical examiners testimony will be big. The amount of Fentanyl is large and way above the ‘therapeutic dose’ however no addict sticks to the ‘therapeutic dose’. Coupled with Floyd’s size being a factor, what could knock any of us out would be ‘just enough’ for him. I do hope the prosecution have a drug expert who can testify to drug tolerance and dependency. When you develop tolerance to a drug you need more and more of it to feel the same effect.

The body cam footage shows that Floyd was terrified of dying, his girlfriend testified that he had OD’d in March and she had taken him to hospital, he stated to officers as he pleaded with them not to shoot him ‘I’ve been shot before, man’. I don’t think he was a man who would be purposely messing around with doses, if anything those events could have made him more careful when it came to how much he was taking. They will hammer in on the Fentanyl being 11ng/mL, but he wasn’t showing signs of fentanyl overdose inside cupfoods or in the minutes leading up to being restrained. Infact he looked more like he was under the influence of a stimulant if anything. Anyway, if the officers believed him to be under the influence, they should have been paying even more attention to his condition for signs of overdose.

Whichever way they come from, Chauvin totally fucked up by showing such complete disregard for Floyd’s worsening condition whilst being knelt on. Even when bystanders were telling him desperately that he was not responding and Lane asked if they should roll him over to check him. He completely ignored protocol and the police seargent is seriously pissed, understandably. The side glares whenever he mentioned Chauvin’s name were a highlight.
This is only the prosecution’s turn though, the defense haven’t even begun to present their case yet.

Stop posting your autism
If Floyd had followed these simple steps in addition to not getting high as fuck then we as a nation wouldn't have spent an entire year being burned down by niggers and race traitors

 

[Not Really Here]

The medical examiners testimony will be big. The amount of Fentanyl is large and way above the ‘therapeutic dose’ however no addict sticks to the ‘therapeutic dose’. Coupled with Floyd’s size being a factor, what could knock any of us out would be ‘just enough’ for him. I do hope the prosecution have a drug expert who can testify to drug tolerance and dependency. When you develop tolerance to a drug you need more and more of it to feel the same effect.

The body cam footage shows that Floyd was terrified of dying, his girlfriend testified that he had OD’d in March and she had taken him to hospital, he stated to officers as he pleaded with them not to shoot him ‘I’ve been shot before, man’. I don’t think he was a man who would be purposely messing around with doses, if anything those events could have made him more careful when it came to how much he was taking. They will hammer in on the Fentanyl being 11ng/mL, but he wasn’t showing signs of fentanyl overdose inside cupfoods or in the minutes leading up to being restrained. Infact he looked more like he was under the influence of a stimulant if anything. Anyway, if the officers believed him to be under the influence, they should have been paying even more attention to his condition for signs of overdose.

Whichever way they come from, Chauvin totally fucked up by showing such complete disregard for Floyd’s worsening condition whilst being knelt on. Even when bystanders were telling him desperately that he was not responding and Lane asked if they should roll him over to check him. He completely ignored protocol and the police seargent is seriously pissed, understandably. The side glares whenever he mentioned Chauvin’s name were a highlight.
This is only the prosecution’s turn though, the defense haven’t even begun to present their case yet.

Nope, Floyd had a large mix of drugs in him, and tolerance doesn't really matter when you mix depressants like Fentanyl and morphine with stimulants like the meth in his system.
He had major artery blockages while in effect doing a speedball, one of the most stressful things you can to to a human heart.
Chauvin didn't "disregard" Floyd's condition he had an ambulance on the way since they had to take Floyd out of the police car and let Floyd lay on the ground as Floyd requested.
According to the testimony yesterday Chauvin's actions were within protocol.

 

[Slimy Time]

>Won't watch the trial
>Never watched the footage

But she has a lot of strong opinions as facts about the entire case though.

Sounds like something my old man would say about women thinking- "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is already made up".

 

[Milkis]

Can we sit down and contemplate potential impact of the fact that there is now a small but still non-zero chance of Chauvin walking free while another black man gets put behind the bars?

Finis Minnesotae

 

[Steinercard]

I honestly think regardless of the sperg outs George is just going to be another dindu. The mob want feels to the point they made a fucked up crackhead into a martyr instead of admiting maybe he's diddu. Antifa are already putting the squeeze on the judges so we'll see what happens.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Day 5 Streams

 

[AnOminous]

Juries are shit, they just happen to be the best method we have so far.

It wasn't the jury's fault. The star-struck Judge Ito let the defense get away with absolute murder and they were able to turn the case into a completely confusing mess. They let the defense fix up O.J.'s house by filling it with pictures of civil rights leaders and then lead the jury through it (it was really full of pictures of white people). They were able to introduce all kinds of nonsensical junk science questioning the validity of DNA evidence itself, making it look like DNA was meaningless.

And the prosecution was a bunch of sad sack fuckups. Mark Fuhrman getting popped on the stand for blatant perjury probably sunk the case by itself, but the other witnesses weren't great, either. For instance, Vannatter came across as a giant dick and admitted he'd just left blood samples sit in a sunlit car all day and didn't know the chain of custody, and was completely dismissive of any concerns about this. So they fucked up the chain of custody on their main conclusive piece of evidence that, had it been treated properly, almost proved the entire case by itself. But no, they fucked up this absolutely crucial thing.

Don't even get me started on the duo of nitwits Marcia Clark and Darden.

And let's not sell the defense short here either. It was an all-star team of the best money could buy. Johnny Cochran in particular was probably one of the best trial lawyers of the century, and he was just one of the Dream Team. So you had a defense team of all-stars, brilliant lawyers willing do do anything, no matter how unethical, to get their client off, a deadly combo, and a judge willing to let them do that.

So what the jury got to see was a fucked up, muddled mess presented in a carnival atmosphere. And you had a clown show on the prosecution side. They really couldn't convict because the prosecution didn't make its case beyond a reasonable doubt. This was partly because the wheels fell off as soon as the cross examination started, partly because they were bad lawyers, partly because the other side had good lawyers, and partly because the judge was a star-struck idiot.

We could be looking at a repetition of a train wreck like that. I still wouldn't be surprised if the hand-picked jury convicts, even with this absolute clownshoes prosecution.

Analysis of day 4 from attorney Andrew Branca is up here (there is a blog version and podcast version).
https://lawofselfdefense.com/chauvin-trial-day-4-wrap-up-another-poor-day-for-prosecution-advantage-defense/ https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/chauvin-trial-day-4-wrap-up-another-poor-day-for-prosecution-advantage-defense/

For context, I've seen Branca on Rekieta on self-defense issues, and he seems to really know his shit. I'd take his opinions on this seriously. And I'm not as sure about Legal Insurrection on this issue, but they had really good takes on the Oberlin libel lawsuit and their calls on that were more or less completely accurate at a time the mainstream media was completely shitting itself and getting everything wrong.

 

[Pink Lily]

I must have perceived the testimony in another way because what I gathered was he did not act according to protocol in that he didn’t stop restraining Floyd to reassess the situation. If I was on that jury right now I’d have a really hard time getting past the body cam footage; I found it distressing. But like I said the medical examiners testimony will swing it either way, although I expect prosecutions ME will have a differing opinion to the defence’s.

I am very interested to see the defence’s argument and I do not make up my mind one way or another until both sides rest. If the defence put on doctors and other professionals testifying that Floyd would have OD’d anyway even if he hadn’t been restrained the way he was then I’d be inclined to lean towards them. That’s just the way I’m seeing it so far, but once the defence are up we will see the other side. If they reveal that Floyd would have likely experienced a cardiac arrest regardless of the officers actions then that is a huge piece of reasonable doubt.

 

[Retard#7822]

Analysis of day 4 from attorney Andrew Branca is up here (there is a blog version and podcast version).

https://lawofselfdefense.com/chauvin-trial-day-4-wrap-up-another-poor-day-for-prosecution-advantage-defense/

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/chauvin-trial-day-4-wrap-up-another-poor-day-for-prosecution-advantage-defense/

Thanks for this bud, seems like real good stuff.

 

[Slimy Time]

It wasn't the jury's fault. The star-struck Judge Ito let the defense get away with absolute murder and they were able to turn the case into a completely confusing mess. They let the defense fix up O.J.'s house by filling it with pictures of civil rights leaders and then lead the jury through it (it was really full of pictures of white people). They were able to introduce all kinds of nonsensical junk science questioning the validity of DNA evidence itself, making it look like DNA was meaningless.

And the prosecution was a bunch of sad sack fuckups. Mark Fuhrman getting popped on the stand for blatant perjury probably sunk the case by itself, but the other witnesses weren't great, either. For instance, Vannatter came across as a giant dick and admitted he'd just left blood samples sit in a sunlit car all day and didn't know the chain of custody, and was completely dismissive of any concerns about this. So they fucked up the chain of custody on their main conclusive piece of evidence that, had it been treated properly, almost proved the entire case by itself. But no, they fucked up this absolutely crucial thing.

Don't even get me started on the duo of nitwits Marcia Clark and Darden.

And let's not sell the defense short here either. It was an all-star team of the best money could buy. Johnny Cochran in particular was probably one of the best trial lawyers of the century, and he was just one of the Dream Team. So you had a defense team of all-stars, brilliant lawyers willing do do anything, no matter how unethical, to get their client off, a deadly combo, and a judge willing to let them do that.

So what the jury got to see was a fucked up, muddled mess presented in a carnival atmosphere. And you had a clown show on the prosecution side. They really couldn't convict because the prosecution didn't make its case beyond a reasonable doubt. This was partly because the wheels fell off as soon as the cross examination started, partly because they were bad lawyers, partly because the other side had good lawyers, and partly because the judge was a star-struck idiot.

We could be looking at a repetition of a train wreck like that. I still wouldn't be surprised if the hand-picked jury convicts, even with this absolute clownshoes prosecution.

For context, I've seen Branca on Rekieta on self-defense issues, and he seems to really know his shit. I'd take his opinions on this seriously. And I'm not as sure about Legal Insurrection on this issue, but they had really good takes on the Oberlin libel lawsuit and their calls on that were more or less completely accurate at a time the mainstream media was completely shitting itself and getting everything wrong.

I don't remember much of the OJ trial other than three things. "If the glove doesn't fit, you must accquit", that sneaky MSM tactic of having a split screen of a black and white woman's face as they announced the result, and OJ being a retard and ending up in prison later anyways for robbing his museum. Very informative.

 

[Dafuqisdis?]

The oj case was 11 months

It was more like 9 months. That was an unusually long trial due to the wrangling of the high profile lawyers and the incompetence of the judge.

Most murder trials will last only a matter of days from jury selection to verdict. This one is more complex and high profile so it's probably going to drag on for at least a month.

 

[In Memoriam]

The jury may be chosen, but both the defense and prosecutors participate in that process and the defense can strike jurors just like the prosecution can. The jury being women might mean they are more prone to emotional responses, true - but a lot of women I know are sick and tired of the way things have come to be in our society just like the men are. Normal people are not Twitter and vice versa. I have hope - after all, ZimZam walked and he was guilty as Chauvin in the eyes of the mob.
Chauvin is still an asshole cop and I snicker at his name being the root of chauvinism. Tax evading fucker

 

[Chocola]

Why I can't watch the Derek Chauvin trial

https://archive.md/jJ9TS

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"Black people are in so much pain," she cried, covering her face with her hands and burying her head in her knees. "Black people are in so much pain."

aren't we all, nigga

 

[Not Really Here]

I must have perceived the testimony in another way because what I gathered was he did not act according to protocol in that he didn’t stop restraining Floyd to reassess the situation.

You missed the part were you don't do that if you think you and your prisoner may be under threat from the mob surrounding, or you think that the prisoner may be faking so they can attack you again.
Are you one of those people who don't know that the super destressing knee on neck didn't leave any injuries at all? Not even a bruise.

 

[AnOminous]

I don't remember much of the OJ trial other than three things. "If the glove doesn't fit, you must accquit", that sneaky MSM tactic of having a split screen of a black and white woman's face as they announced the result, and OJ being a retard and ending up in prison later anyways for robbing his museum. Very informative.

That's one I actually watched in its entirety back when CourtTV was a new thing. It was a long time ago, but some things stick in your memory. That recitation was from memory so it's possible I got some things slightly off, but if you want to be infuriated, watch Vannatter's testimony. Everyone remembers Fuhrman because seeing a cop denying ever saying "nigger" and they have him on tape basically nigger this nigger that you know how to frame a nigger? He was basically Moon Man with a badge. It was ridiculous.