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moonchild said:
It goes without saying, but mentally stable people don't troon out. the story of troons is easier to see: socially awkward guy, doesn't fit in, doesn't have a lot of friends, can't get laid, poor body image, probably got bullied in school, played video games instead of football, and severely depressed. when these guys find a troon group, probably on discord or twitter, it's easier for them to be groomed into the cult. my take away from the troon movement is that what society needs is better mental health services for young men, and more promotion of masculinity as healthy and normal. we need to lift young men up, and teach them to love themselves.
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What I causally observed before is that male troons typically congregate around stereotypical male hobbies, for example speedrunning, anime, war strategy games, truck/train simulators, programming. These communities are usually breeding grounds where there are large swaths of vulnerable outcasts and all it takes is injecting a few troons in order to start changing the whole community. You can pin point the time in AGDQ, when that "protomagical" individual started appearing, to know when trooning out became in vogue in that community. I don't really know if I can speak for young women, but as @glass_houses said a large part of it is sexual abuse cases. Another case could be related to peer pressure/depression.

In my opinion what parents really need to do is sit down with their child and have a conversation about what responsible internet use is and the process of grooming and how it works. I don't think you need to invade every part of their privacy, but you need to make sure you're able to get to them before someone like Kevin does. The attention of a parent is worth a lot more than some stranger on the internet. Grab all their social media handles (reddit, twitter, Xbox live, etc) and make sure you know what type of people they're communicating with and what type of subjects they talk about. If they are set to "friends only", create an account just to sit in and observe. One thing groomers will do is teach kids how to be secretive about their online dealings, such as how to buy estrogen/HRT in secret and how to pay for it without appearing on a credit card statement. And how to take HRT without your parents knowing.

This is an example of what internet estrogen looks like. If you can't read the red text on the side it says, "keep out of reach of parents".
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Chef Hanlon said:
What I causally observed before is that male troons typically congregate around stereotypical male hobbies, for example speedrunning, anime, war strategy games, truck/train simulators, programming. These communities are usually breeding grounds where there are large swaths of vulnerable outcasts and all it takes is injecting a few troons in order to start changing the whole community. You can pin point the time in AGDQ, when that "protomagical" individual started appearing, to know when trooning out became in vogue in that community. I don't really know if I can speak for young women, but as @glass_houses said a large part of it is sexual abuse cases. Another case could be related to peer pressure/depression.

In my opinion what parents really need to do is sit down with their child and have a conversation about what responsible internet use is and the process of grooming and how it works. I don't think you need to invade every part of their privacy, but you need to make sure you're able to get to them before someone like Kevin does. The attention of a parent is worth a lot more than some stranger on the internet. Grab all their social media handles (reddit, twitter, Xbox live, etc) and make sure you know what type of people they're communicating with and what type of subjects they talk about. If they are set to "friends only", create an account just to sit in and observe. One thing groomers will do is teach kids how to be secretive about their online dealings, such as how to buy estrogen/HRT in secret and how to pay for it without appearing on a credit card statement. And how to take HRT without your parents knowing.

This is an example of what internet estrogen looks like. If you can't read the red text on the side it says, "keep out of reach of parents".
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Oh god Otokono. I looked into him last month and his shit is worse than you could imagine. He’s also likely responsible for the death of at least 1 person due to their estrogen levels being multiple times too high, and after they posted it, their Reddit account went silent.
 
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Chef Hanlon said:
What I causally observed before is that male troons typically congregate around stereotypical male hobbies, for example speedrunning, anime, war strategy games, truck/train simulators, programming. These communities are usually breeding grounds where there are large swaths of vulnerable outcasts and all it takes is injecting a few troons in order to start changing the whole community. You can pin point the time in AGDQ, when that "protomagical" individual started appearing, to know when trooning out became in vogue in that community. I don't really know if I can speak for young women, but as @glass_houses said a large part of it is sexual abuse cases. Another case could be related to peer pressure/depression.

In my opinion what parents really need to do is sit down with their child and have a conversation about what responsible internet use is and the process of grooming and how it works. I don't think you need to invade every part of their privacy, but you need to make sure you're able to get to them before someone like Kevin does. The attention of a parent is worth a lot more than some stranger on the internet. Grab all their social media handles (reddit, twitter, Xbox live, etc) and make sure you know what type of people they're communicating with and what type of subjects they talk about. If they are set to "friends only", create an account just to sit in and observe. One thing groomers will do is teach kids how to be secretive about their online dealings, such as how to buy estrogen/HRT in secret and how to pay for it without appearing on a credit card statement. And how to take HRT without your parents knowing.

This is an example of what internet estrogen looks like. If you can't read the red text on the side it says, "keep out of reach of parents".
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Protip: Never, ever take meds that look like they came straight from the weed shop.

This is another thing you should talk to your kids about--specifically, making sure you source your meds right. I mean, let's include your recreational stuff there, too.

That's because this is all the same sketchy dealer type issues, and the same rules that you'd apply to figuring out who to get the stuff you're planning to get high on goes for, well, anything you're planning to take--for exactly the same reasons, too. Going with a script to a non-sketch pharmacy means that everybody in your supply chain knows that if those pills fuck you up? We can track them right back to the manufacturer and the precise batch it came from. This is legally required.

This is legally required because we used to have a massive problem with people getting fucked up in bad ways by sketch medications. A recent example would be vape lung, which--once you dig down some--turns out that, while we can't be sure 'cause weed ain't awesome for your brains on a normal day? What we could figure out was that most if not all of the people who got vape lung had been vaping sketch pot extract from sketch head shops that got it from sketch sources. We're talking fly-by-night companies, some of whom may never be completely tracked down, who damn well knew that they couldn't be so they didn't have to give a fuck if the end buyer was okay.

So... Press X to doubt that somebody OD'd on sketchy internet estrogen. My guess? Died because they fucking took sketch shit.

Don't take sketch shit.

And on the actual topic of this thread: Anybody here feel the Tranch knows that? I mean, I learned this because I grew up in a less-than-stellar neighborhood, and most troons seem to be upper-middle-class-or-better in their origins... I'd not be surprised with their history of choosing the cheap option, not the best value, if they got their estrogen from the sketch online dealer.
 
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Cerabella said:
"That people are going to get their testicles removed just for fun?"
Wedge (allegedly) removed his balls for fun...
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Over time, my opinion has changed, and I have also grown fully in favor of no-barrier orchiectomy for adults.

I only had to have more exposure to lives of these stunning and brave individuals to come around to that decision.
 
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Cerabella said:
Arthur Chu and Kevin join forces to groom teenagers.
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6ft 230 lbs Kevin is mad a bout women shirt size.
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"That people are going to get their testicles removed just for fun?"
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Well, pack it up, boys! Kevin is the vanguard and true arbiter of dysphoria. I knew it the instant I saw him use the academic word definitionally...
 
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Norman B. Normal said:
Wasn't it Kevin who said you don't need a reason to troon out other than that you just want to troon out? Troon Central must have gotten in touch and told him to modify his messaging.
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Didn't the mainstream trans message become 'you don't need dysphoria to be trans', and anyone asserting otherwise became known as 'truscum'?
 
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WastefulLoathing said:
Didn't the mainstream trans message become 'you don't need dysphoria to be trans', and anyone asserting otherwise became known as 'truscum'?
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The "mainstream trans" message is whatever the most vocal troon wants it to be. However, I don't see a contradiction between the general message of
1. "you don't have to have dysphoria to transition"​
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2. "wanting to be the other sex is literally dysphoria".​

I also think some people DMd Kev and told him to make some of his grooming retardation a bit more palatable to normies, now that Tran Ranch is famous.
And that DM might have been a tired Paul Mendoza with a twitchy eye and an even twitchier trigger finger.
 
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Cerabella said:
"That people are going to get their testicles removed just for fun?"
Wedge (allegedly) removed his balls for fun...
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Fuck it. If people want to lop off their balls, go for it. Just a) don't pretend it's magically turned you into a woman, and b) pay for it your goddamn self like any other elective surgery. Anyone dumb enough to willingly undergo orchiectomy for non-medically necessary reasons shouldn't be breeding anyhow
 
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Jesse Singal sperging:
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https://twitter.com/TransSalamander/status/1378070587801669633 (Archive)

Jesse Signal: "Stop suicide baiting"
Kev-Kev: "Twamsphobia"

Of course, Kev-Kev gets upset over this. After all, he doesn't think much for himself, just repeats the troon collectives screech.

Kevie's feeling heckin' valid!!!:
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https://twitter.com/TransSalamander/status/1378075302132256772 (Archive)

That poor man probably called him "ma'am" to avoid having Kev-Kev chimp out at him, over someone correctly guessing that he's a TIM.
 
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