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Escaped Abortion said:
I tested negative for antibodies, so I guess I have dodged the coof thus far, but I have had one friend who got it and viewed the temporary loss of smell and taste as a soul crushing event that made him contemplate suicide. I don't really get it. I'd just consider that a prime opportunity to de-fatty. Another friend got it, also loss smell for awhile, and generally felt really sick for a few days, but is fine. The boyfriend of my brother's ex-wife had it and barely noticed, also recovered. A 90 year old woman got it and survived, she was the only one who odds were really bad that I've known so far.

They locked my dad up in coof jail with the other deranged elderly for quarantine and he pulled through without even contracting it.

Of course, those are all anecdotes, and we all know what you really need is a year of individual stories collected by the state to count as data. Fortunately, I have that. My state collected data from all the reported cases, sorted by age and counted how many people died. So that was tens of thousands of cases per most age group, and for most of them around 20-30 deaths, with 11 deaths total in the age group between 5-29 out of 176,000 cases.

0-4 had a 0.0089% chance of death because one baby died while having covid out of around 11000 babies who had it. 30-34 year olds died at a rate of 0.03%,35-39 was 35-39 = 0.065%, 40-44 was 0.078%, 45-49 was 0.19%, 50-54 = 0.3%, 55-59 = 0.46% and we finally reach a 1% chance of death at 60 years old.

This was in a mixed population, so the fatties, the terrible health at any age, all blended in there. I imagine if you aren't a fatty diabetic 40 year old your chances are better than the average, but even if you are, you probably aren't that much worse off since most of you survived.

After 64 things really did get a lot worse, with it getting as bad as a one in three chance for 100+ year olds. So if you are a super old, you should be worried about the coof. Even if you are just regular old it's not great for you. My great aunt died to a normal cold when she was 80 though, and I've not taken that as universal proof of the deadliness of colds.

The average flu deaths for 18-49 year olds is 0.02%, and that age range for covid in my state was either 0.07% or 0.05% depending on how you weight the average (the death rate in the 45-49 year olds alone was the same as the total in 15-44, so one is the percentage of deaths from that age and below, and the other is the average rate of death by age groups counted.) Either way we see that covid is deadlier than the flu, but still a 99.93to 99.95% survival rate. Isn't that better than birth control and you frequently bet your life, or at least the next 18 years of it on that working?

TLDR: Covid isn't really that dangerous unless you are over 60, and even then that's hand wringing over a 1% death rate, but it only got intimidating from there on out. Yeah you might be at a 1 in 4 chance of dying when you are 80, but a cold or light breeze could kill you as well. The latter almost did in Biden last week.
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Was your friend a fattie with nothing else to live for except food?

Christ that's fucking weak. Its just food.
 
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This article didn't even make me mad. It just made me sad about how scared the COVID fearmongering has made people.

When polled, 69% of people said that they would feel comfortable attending a sporting event even if they knew everyone had taken the vaccine.


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Good news for you doomers​

COVID-19: Chris Whitty warns virus measures needed for another two years to combat threat of variants​



Coronavirus safety measures are likely to still be necessary for another two years, England's chief medical officer has said.

Professor Chris Whitty said it could take up to two years for the world to build up a bank of vaccines and technologies capable of rapidly dealing with COVID-19 variants and outbreaks.


While he said these tools will eventually "find a way through", there still remains a level of risk that needs to be managed before then.

Speaking during a Royal Society of Medicine webinar on Thursday, Professor Whitty said a cautious approach will be needed for the next couple of years "because we've got such a difficult situation to go through at the moment".

He added: "What we don't want to be is in a situation where we look back in six months and say 'If we'd only just been a bit more cautious for a month or two we would've actually got through [vaccinating] the whole population, we'd have understood a lot more, we'd know how to deal with this, we'd probably have a few variant vaccines on the stocks'.


"I don't think though this should be seen as an indefinite posture, I think this is a matter of probably the next year or two whilst we understand how to do this and find a way of responding rapidly to variants."

However, he said a "very wide portfolio of vaccines" is likely to be available in around two years, offering greater protection.

"If we scroll forward two years, I think we're going to have a very wide portfolio of vaccines," Professor Whitty said.

He added that technology can "turn around a vaccine to a new variant incredibly fast, compared to how historically we've been able to do it".

"So I think technology will find a way through this in the long run, but we've got a period of risk between now and then," he added.




'Vaccine protection wall is leaky, not complete'
Professor Whitty said that while the R number (the rate at which the virus replicated) is less than 1, variants coming into the UK "don't have much of a foothold", but he added that R is anticipated to rise above 1 as more things open up in the lockdown exit road map.

Politicians and experts have issued warnings to the public to stick to coronavirus rules, after the stay at home order was lifted in England on Monday and the "rule of six" came back into place for outside gatherings.

On Monday, Boris Johnson warned people to "proceed with caution".

"What we don't know is exactly how strong our fortifications now are, how robust our defences are against another wave," he said.

"That's why I stress the importance of everybody maintaining the discipline people have shown for so long."

It comes as a survey from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) showed the level of people testing positive for COVID-19 in England has fallen to its lowest level since 24 September.


Around one in 370 people in private households in England had COVID-19 in the week to 27 March - down slightly from one in 340 the previous week, the ONS said. In the week to 24 September the estimate stood at one in 470.

However, the ONS said the percentage of people testing positive for the virus is estimated to have increased in eastern England.

The trend was uncertain for all other regions, but had decreased in southeast and southwest England, the ONS added.

Yorkshire and the Humber had the highest proportion of people of any region in England likely to test positive for coronavirus in the week to March 27: around one in 230.

Northwest England had the next highest estimate at one in 280.

Meanwhile, England's deputy chief medical officer has said the UK was not fully prepared for a pandemic of this type.


Image:Jenny Harries said the UK wasn't 'fully prepared' for a pandemic of this type
Dr Jenny Harries said more testing would have been carried out if tests were available earlier on, and knowledge about asymptomatic transmission could have resulted in a prompt recommendation to wear masks.

Speaking at the launch of the new UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA), of which she is chief executive, Dr Harries told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "We were not fully prepared for this pandemic and, as I've said, I'm very happy to accept there is an awful lot to learn.

"I think we share some of those failings with many other countries."

Asked if the initial response to the pandemic was poor, she said: "I think it had merits and it had things that we would wish to improve."



She said that while asymptomatic transmission had been "considered carefully", the proportion of cases - now thought to be 30% - was not recognised.

"So obviously the response that we put in place and some of the interventions were not accounting for that high degree of numbers of asymptomatic cases, so I think there's learning as we've gone through."


You just got to go out and start spreading them new variants, make your dreams come true.
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I know you're a shitty troll but people unironically believe this shit. All of this variant shit is lab horse shit. People here and elsewhere with more than 3 brain cells to rub together have been saying the lockdowns and controls are never going to end. The excuse of variants is just an easy game to play on nigger cattle. Once again, don't be nigger cattle.
 
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Marchesa of the Vast said:
I know you're a shitty troll but people unironically believe this shit. All of this variant shit is lab horse shit. People here and elsewhere with more than 3 brain cells to rub together have been saying the lockdowns and controls are never going to end. The excuse of variants is just an easy game to play on nigger cattle. Once again, don't be nigger cattle.
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That because you have only 4 brain cells, normal people do what needs to be done to get this shit over with to avoid this shit from happening despite your doomer wishing andacting like a tard to drag this shit out longer than it needs to be.
 
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The High Prophet of Truth said:
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That sound racist. So we aren't allowed to have restrictions for terrorists coming into the country but we're having travel restrictions for the coof.
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That because you have only 4 brain cells, normal people do what needs to be done to get this shit over with to avoid this shit from happening despite your doomer wishing andacting like a tard to drag this shit out longer than it needs to be.
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Ah yes, normies who avoid any sunlight or fitness activity and make sure to order lots of takeout have the right idea.
 
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Saw this shit while walking and it genuinely pissed me off at least it's good thing its the useless chinese vaccine not the Mrna shit like pifzer too bad if I don't get the vaccine I might get fined in my country (if the rumors are ture of course they're also pulling the uk trick of raiding family gatherings and severely fineing them
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That because you have only 4 brain cells, normal people do what needs to be done to get this shit over with to avoid this shit from happening despite your doomer wishing andacting like a tard to drag this shit out longer than it needs to be.
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New Zealand.

vanilla_pepsi_head said:
He isn't "spreading covid" if he's not sick you absolute double nigger
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At this point "spreading covid" is just not doing what authorities tell you to do.

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Saw this shit while walking and it genuinely pissed me off at least it's good thing its the useless chinese vaccine not the Mrna shit like pifzer too bad if I don't get the vaccine I might get fined in my country (if the rumors are ture of course they're also pulling the uk trick of raiding family gatherings and severely fineing themView attachment 2051878
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Imagine not seeing your parents for over a year because you're literal nigger cattle that can be whipped to obedience. Truly, I truly cannot fathom these people as individuals. They're just components in a hedonistic machine.
 
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Fully vaccinated can travel again, says new CDC guidance
NEW YORK — Add travel to the activities vaccinated Americans can enjoy again, according to new U.S. guidance issued Friday.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated its guidance to say fully vaccinated people can travel within the U.S. without getting tested for the coronavirus or going into quarantine afterward.

Previously, the agency had cautioned against unnecessary travel even for vaccinated people, but noted that it would update its guidance as more people got vaccinated and evidence mounted about the protection the shots provide.
”Every day you get more data, and you change your guidance based on the existing data,” said Dr. Ali Khan, dean of the University of Nebraska’s College of Public Health.

Khan said the update reinforces the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines, and is another incentive for people to get vaccinated.

According to the CDC, nearly 100 million people in the U.S. — or about 30% of the population — have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. A person is considered fully vaccinated two weeks after receiving the last required dose of vaccine.
Unvaccinated people are still advised to avoid unnecessary travel.
The new guidance says:
— Fully vaccinated people can travel within the U.S., without getting tested for the coronavirus or quarantining. People should still wear a mask, socially distance and avoid crowds, the agency says.

— For international travel, the agency says vaccinated people do not need to get a COVID-19 test before leaving, though some destinations may require it.
— Vaccinated people should still get a negative COVID-19 test before boarding a flight to the U.S., and be tested 3 to 5 days after returning. They do not need to quarantine. The agency noted the potential introduction of virus variants and differences in vaccine coverage around the world for the cautious guidance on overseas travel.

The CDC cited recent research on the real-world effects of the vaccines for its updated guidance. Already, the agency had said fully vaccinated people could visit with each other indoors without wearing masks or social distancing. It also said vaccinated people could visit with unvaccinated people from a single household under similar conditions, as long as the unvaccinated individuals were at low-risk for severe illness if infected

The U.S. began its vaccine rollout in mid-December with . The first vaccines — from Pfizer and Moderna — require two doses taken a few weeks apart. A one-shot vaccine by Johnson & Johnson was given the green light by regulators at the end of February.


Nice, time for some people here to grow a pair and get over their needle fear
 
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Hippopatumus said:
Sure thing. I just have three criteria first:

- The vaccine must have FDA approval
- My doctor must advise me to take it
- The government must rescind the liability waiver

Which of these do you think is irrational?
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You know is this the first not batshit reply I've had in this thread.

FDA approval should be coming this month for Pfizer and BioNTech. Other countries medical bodies have all okayed them but if you wish to wait for the FDA that is totally fine.
Not sure why you would wait for the doctor if the FDA gives it the go ahead, but sure talk to your doctor if you want and if it put your mind at to rest or to know which one to go with.
The PREP Act isn't new nor was it made for the covid vax, I think it's fair be against that act and reading up on it I get why it's in place but I agree with you it shouldn't be, but if the vax is proven to work which they have, not sure why you wouldn't take it even with being against that act.

If you want to read up on the PREP here

And I do have a question, would you refuse other vaxes such as ones for ebloa or the zika virus if there was a outbreak in your area or would you still refuse due to the PREP Act?
 
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Ari Gold said:
This is the new normal...

No going back to pre-covid days. I have accepted it.
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Even though I'm a pessimistic doomer, I haven't. Simply because at the end of the day, money talks, and there's no way these big sports corporations are going to not have full stadiums eventually.

Also, even though I posted the doom about stadium reluctance, UFC 261 in Jacksonville Florida sold out in minutes. Yes I'm sure most went to scalpers, so we'll have to see the night of the show how many people are there. And that show will be 14K people indoors.

 
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Product Placement said:
Fully vaccinated can travel again, says new CDC guidance
NEW YORK — Add travel to the activities vaccinated Americans can enjoy again, according to new U.S. guidance issued Friday.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated its guidance to say fully vaccinated people can travel within the U.S. without getting tested for the coronavirus or going into quarantine afterward.

Previously, the agency had cautioned against unnecessary travel even for vaccinated people, but noted that it would update its guidance as more people got vaccinated and evidence mounted about the protection the shots provide.
”Every day you get more data, and you change your guidance based on the existing data,” said Dr. Ali Khan, dean of the University of Nebraska’s College of Public Health.

Khan said the update reinforces the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines, and is another incentive for people to get vaccinated.

According to the CDC, nearly 100 million people in the U.S. — or about 30% of the population — have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. A person is considered fully vaccinated two weeks after receiving the last required dose of vaccine.
Unvaccinated people are still advised to avoid unnecessary travel.
The new guidance says:
— Fully vaccinated people can travel within the U.S., without getting tested for the coronavirus or quarantining. People should still wear a mask, socially distance and avoid crowds, the agency says.

— For international travel, the agency says vaccinated people do not need to get a COVID-19 test before leaving, though some destinations may require it.
— Vaccinated people should still get a negative COVID-19 test before boarding a flight to the U.S., and be tested 3 to 5 days after returning. They do not need to quarantine. The agency noted the potential introduction of virus variants and differences in vaccine coverage around the world for the cautious guidance on overseas travel.

The CDC cited recent research on the real-world effects of the vaccines for its updated guidance. Already, the agency had said fully vaccinated people could visit with each other indoors without wearing masks or social distancing. It also said vaccinated people could visit with unvaccinated people from a single household under similar conditions, as long as the unvaccinated individuals were at low-risk for severe illness if infected

The U.S. began its vaccine rollout in mid-December with . The first vaccines — from Pfizer and Moderna — require two doses taken a few weeks apart. A one-shot vaccine by Johnson & Johnson was given the green light by regulators at the end of February.


Nice, time for some people here to grow a pair and get over their needle fear
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I don't know about you, but I've been travelling this whole time.
Then again I'm not a bootlicker waiting for instructions on what I can and can't do, and I'm not a giant pussy who is afraid of a virus with a kill rate of less than 1/4th of a percent.
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And I do have a question, would you refuse other vaxes such as ones for ebloa or the zika virus if there was a outbreak in your area or would you still refuse due to the PREP Act?
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No.
Ebola is one of the most lethal viruses known to infect humans, behind rabies and HIV, and kills much quicker than those two. Even if a hypothetical Ebola vaccine had a kill rate 4x COVID-19 I would still risk that over getting Ebola.
And Zika I'd take it mostly only because I plan on having kids.
 
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I for one personally hope the rest of these fucking retards continue to follow the CDC guidelines mask mandates another authoritative bullshit.
So I dont have to wait in line at the movies or restaurants. And theme parks aren't crowded and so I can live out my fantasy of what life would be like with 50 million less Of you
 
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