The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[MoeChotto]

Is it just me or does this dude sound retarded?
"If someone is handcuffed they are not a threat."
"So they couldn't do anything to fight back?"
"Well I guess they could get up and kick you and move around.... but you can just move out of the way."

Is this boomer serious?

If I were a cop at the scene of a combative 200-lb drugged up monster resisting arrest, I would simply use my superior agility and move out of the way.

This guy's really trying to throw Chauvin right under that bus. Seems the MPD is feeling more societal pressure than anyone else.

 

[7he47r0n]

I think the judge mentioned that they would be going home to their families after court on day 1 when he was reading them their instructions, but they were explicitly told to avoid media coverage of the trial and not to discuss it with anyone except their immediate family (going by some of their jury profiles, I would be surprised if many of them keep to this)

Also, this isn't the first time a jury has had media attempt to expose them in a high-profile court case. I hate to keep bringing up the Casey Anthony trial, but that one was also very big, and had a lot of angry normies paying attention to it and happened in the Internet age.

This article was published a month before the verdict was delivered.

For Zimmerman's trial, this article was published a few weeks before the verdict.

And I'm sure there's plenty of other juries who received similar treatment. It's hard to find articles like this on O.J.'s trial that was published at the time due to most news being delivered by TV or paper, but it probably happened there too. I think if journos publishing information about jurors while still keeping them anonymous is considered "jury tampering/intimidation," it would have been addressed at the very least within the last 10 years, so it's really kinda dumb to keep seeing people in the thread to be clutching their pearls and shrieking "The media is doxxxing jurors! This is illegal!" The media's also pretty aware that if they publish any real juror info, it could very quickly lead to a mistrial and that's why they don't publish the jurors' actual personal information, just general profiles of the people on the jury.

Stacey Castor is one of my favorite interrogations just because of how comical that line was, like right out of a cartoon

Thank you for the articles, my friend, but in the future could you please use archived sites, rather than the live versions? I very much do not want to fuel the pockets of the mainstream media.

 

[ogmudbone]

Idk if we talked about this in the thread yet but I don't remember seeing it. What's your take on if Chauvin is actually gonna take the stand and say anything? Would it help his case, hurt it, be pointless, etc.

It would be pointless, for the defense it is risky. For the prosecution they will crucify him.

 

[Probably An Autist]

does it even matter what kind of person GF was? I don't understand why everyone is wasting time arguing about it (I mean, I understand they try to appeal to emotions, but why is nobody stopping them?)
Ok maybe he was a junkie criminal, it's still not right to kill him, ASSUMING he was even killed. Thats some Yagami Light logic.
Maybe he was a gentle giant who danced in stores and took dad selfies, how is that relevant ?

If we lived in normal world, all this time would have been spent determining how much cop actually contributed to his death, and how intentional it was.
But what do I know, I'm just a normie.

It doesn't, but a go-to anti-cop narrative is that every person they curbstomp with their storm trooper boots is a good person who was completely innocent. So the other side of the argument is that they're a degenerate scumbag. It's just two sides cat fighting.

 

[Retard#7822]

I think this guy is trying to throw Chauvin to the wolves so the city doesn't burn. "When they're cuffed, how can the hurt you?" I'm not a cop and I can come up with a few off the top of my head.

 

[Gypsymagic]

does it even matter what kind of person GF was? I don't understand why everyone is wasting time arguing about it (I mean, I understand they try to appeal to emotions, but why is nobody stopping them?)
Ok maybe he was a junky criminal, it's still not right to kill him, ASSUMING he was even killed. Thats some Yagami Light logic.
Maybe he was a gentle giant who danced in stores and took dad selfies, how is that relevant ?

If we lived in normal world, all this time would have been spent determining how much cop actually contributed to his death, and how intentional it was.
But what do I know, I'm just a normie.

The druggie part matters because the Defense asserts Floyd's death was caused by his drug addiction, and not Chauvin's knee
-Floyd has a bad heart
-Floyd was taking new more hardcore drugs
-Floyd Overdosed a month prior to passing away
-Those same drugs that caused Floyd overdose caused him to foam at the mouth, like he did the day he died
-Drugs made his mama GF feel jittery and wound up all night long afraid she was going to die when she took them
-On the day he died he was clearly already on drugs prior to being arrested by his mannerisms in the drug store
-He took whatever drugs he had on him while being arrested to hide them from the police
-He started acting erratic screaming for breath before anyone even touched his neck and was foaming at the mouth
_Chauvin's knee didn't do any damage to Floy'ds body like you expect someone who was choked would show
-Floyd also was yelling for multiple minutes about lack of breathing, hard to yell if you actually can't breathe.

Trust me if we just wanted to shit on Floyd, we'd be talking more about how Saint Floyd was a piece of shit who helped rob and nearly kill a pregnant woman at gunpoint with his jogger friends.

 

[Jill Kews]

I know someone said it earlier, but it really has to be reiterated that this feels like a real life Boondocks episode.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

This guy's testimony is not super great for the defense.

 

[Rekkington]

If I were a cop at the scene of a combative 200-lb drugged up monster resisting arrest, I would simply use my superior agility and move out of the way.

This guy's really trying to throw Chauvin right under that bus. Seems the MPD is feeling more societal pressure than anyone else.

I was actually amazed at what I was hearing. He actually said that when you put someone in handcuffs they are basically just incapacitated. And if they are hostile, just get them to sit on the curb. I don't believe I am exaggerating when I say this, did I mishear or something? He also seemed to admit that the very process of handcuffing someone makes them unable to breathe by stretching their lungs, so no matter what if you have them in handcuffs you restrict their breathing. Which means he seemed to be implying he should have just used his martial arts skills to dodge any attack while talking him down onto the curb? What the fuck am I listening to here?

 

[thismanlies]

This guy's really trying to throw Chauvin right under that bus. Seems the MPD is feeling more societal pressure than anyone else.

Nobody's going to remember that during the next round of riots.

 

[SimoHayha]

I didn't realize when you're taken into custody cops are required to wipe your nose for you, make sure the pillow is fluffed, and temperature isn't too chilly. Good to know.

 

[MuuMuu Bunnylips]

Have they used the fact that he was surrounded by assholes who were literally getting in his way as a counterargument? It's kind of hard to do your job "by the letter" when you have to worry about a chimp jumping you.

 

[Random Internet Person]

This guy's really trying to throw Chauvin right under that bus. Seems the MPD is feeling more societal pressure than anyone else.

Yep...that or Chauvin was on pretty thin ice with his colleagues before all this shit.

 

[No Face]

does it even matter what kind of person GF was? I don't understand why everyone is wasting time arguing about it (I mean, I understand they try to appeal to emotions, but why is nobody stopping them?)
Ok maybe he was a junkie criminal, it's still not right to kill him, ASSUMING he was even killed. Thats some Yagami Light logic.
Maybe he was a gentle giant who danced in stores and took dad selfies, how is that relevant ?

If we lived in normal world, all this time would have been spent determining how much cop actually contributed to his death, and how intentional it was.
But what do I know, I'm just a normie.

A big part of the defense case relies on proving the drug overdose angle, which in turn relies on having testimony about his lifestyle, i.e. use of drugs, and his willingness to be involved with the criminal element, and therefore his criminal past. He was driving around with a drug dealer who was passing around counterfeit cheques.

His girlfriend testified that same drug dealer had provided them drugs which floyd had overdosed on 2 months prior, where he foamed at the mouth and was sent to the hospital.

Its all relevant.

edit: ninja'd by based poster Gypsymagic

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

does it even matter what kind of person GF was? I don't understand why everyone is wasting time arguing about it (I mean, I understand they try to appeal to emotions, but why is nobody stopping them?)
Ok maybe he was a junkie criminal, it's still not right to kill him, ASSUMING he was even killed.

Well duh. Bringing up Fentanyl Floyd’s criminal history with the wife and one-year old child is there simply to show that he’s a junkie criminal, not justifying his death at all. It was a response to people comparing him to MLK or putting him in murals next to Malcolm X. The most important thing he did in his life is die. He’s no activist. He’s no saint, despite what his relatives want you to believe. They’re unconditionally going to say stuff like that.

 

[King Ghidorah]

i like how this is almost on the cusp of a revelation before still insisting there's some conspiracy against black people by the government for some reason

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

Calling it now. Guy worked in the 80's and early 90's, some internet sleuth is gonna look into his record and find a shitload of abuse complaints.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Calling it now. Guy worked in the 80's and early 90's, some internet sleuth is gonna look into his record and find a shitload of abuse complaints.

Should have done his 20 and then retired with his pension.

 

[Superman93]

Uh oh.

HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!

 

[Failed Lurker]

Might have missed this but is this one of the city's investigators? Who's case would've been the basis to fire all the cops involved only 2-3 days after the event?

A big leap in speculation but could the way he's answering be more to protect the department from wrongful dismissal claims, particularly for the two newbies? Especially if the city already paid out $27 million before the trials.