The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[LurkTrawl]

Well, here's food for thought: if the majority of the previously unarmed populace in a city is now armed, and riots kick off again in such a manner that they significantly delay emergence response times and/or communication to emergency lines, how many people will get ventilated before the cops even hear about the first asshole downed?

Has there ever been a precedent for arresting a tenth of a major metropolitan area's citizenry for self defense?

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Look, I have zero sympathies towards BLM and the chimpsquad, but do you have any real-life examples of the confirmed arsonists facing nothing or are you just sperging out?

I don't recall specific names because there were so many examples and this was at least 6 months ago.

What I recall was that certain DAs were flat out refusing to prosecute anyone "protesting" and there were specific examples of people being arrested for vandalism and similar shit multiple times a night.

 

[Spooky Doot Skelly]

Wikipedia is handling things well.
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Niggas keep saying two autopsies "concluded" homicide. Do they actually? Why hasn't that been brought up in court yet?

 

[Merry]

Why would they get rid of their footsoldiers now? They can dismiss entire cities burning as "mostly peaceful protests" and insist any evidence to the contrary is a "dangerous conspiracy theory", or say the rioters are all white supremacists in disguise.

And it's no wonder the Dems are also pushing for gun control right how. They want you at the mercy of their feral pets. In addition to Kyle, look at the ear-splitting REEEEEEs that occurred over the McCloskeys standing in their front yard armed.

Somewhat off topic, but I think they're completely fucked.

One of the good things Trump did was completely detach their "ego" from the helm of the Presidency when he was in office. They became screaming histrionics for years because of it. Now they have a senile fuck and an evil DA in office who have gigantic piles of shit to deal with and they can't even get it anywhere near done. Gun control, on top of corona, illegal immigration, Russia, China, Iran, domestic political extremism rapidly growing on every side, and a general decline of American power/image is a clusterfuck no one could fix without being a Caesar. And being Caesar is more than a title or the powers, it's the will and skill behind it. There is none of that left in the US government at almost any level.

The clock is ticking and all their grand ambitions cannot resist the pull of nature.

 

[dorxter¼]

Honestly with what I've experienced of activism in my life, I'm not sure I believe things were ever actually like that.

How do I know that they just didn't lie about all that Jim Crow era shit, or at the very least twist it. In the modern day every single fucking time you hear the narrative "he was a good boy he dindu nuffin" it ALWAYS turns out to be a lie 100% without fail. How can I be sure that those lynching victims were innocent? Because "he was just smiling at the white girl he dindu nuffin" sounds an awful lot like "hands up don't shoot, he never attacked those cops".

I'm starting to see that pattern a lot honestly. It is popular now to paint the early white settlers of America as rabid indian killers. When the irony is, indians never colonized because they were too busy killing each other. There was a documntary on youtube about the Salem witch trials. A very high percentage of the witches that were tried had one thing in common: they all had their husbands strangely disappear.... But instead we are taught "Christianity bad mmkay"

 

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Look, I have zero sympathies towards BLM and the chimpsquad, but do you have any real-life examples of the confirmed arsonists facing nothing or are you just sperging out?

Every fucking arsonist who rioted last year.

They literally spent every night all summer trying to burn down a federal building in Portland with people in it and not only were the police not allowed to arrest them, when Trump finally found a loophole to force them to allow for arrests, the Soros-backed DA refused to charge anyone.

 

[Meat Target]

I'm starting to see that pattern a lot honestly. It is popular now to paint the early white settlers of America as rabid indian killers. When the irony is, indians never colonized because they were too busy killing each other. There was a documntary on youtube about the Salem witch trials. A very high percentage of the witches that were tried had one thing in common: they all had their husbands strangely disappear.... But instead we are taught "Christianity bad mmkay"

The Crusades were in response to centuries Muslim invasions into Christian lands (including much of Spain).

Germany was "aggressive" with "unrestricted submarine warfare" against "neutral America" in WW1? Turns out they had been publishing warnings in US newspapers, which were then suppressed by the government:

And we had to help Britain because "they're our allies"? In reality, it was to protect J.P. Morgan's money (he had significant financial ties to Britain).

History is a lie agreed upon, and it is never as noble as the story claims.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

The Crusades were in response to centuries Muslim invasions into Christian lands (including much of Spain).

Germany was "aggressive" with "unrestricted submarine warfare" against "neutral America" in WW1? Turns out they had been publishing warnings in US newspapers, which were then suppressed by the government:
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And we had to help Britain because "they're our allies"? In reality, it was to protect J.P. Morgan's money (he had significant financial ties to Britain).

History is a lie agreed upon, and it is never as noble as the story claims.

Hold on there goy- I mean scout. Thinking like that may lead you to question a particular mass baking incident in the early 20th century, and that's not very kosher.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

Honestly with what I've experienced of activism in my life, I'm not sure I believe things were ever actually like that.

How do I know that they just didn't lie about all that Jim Crow era shit, or at the very least twist it. In the modern day every single fucking time you hear the narrative "he was a good boy he dindu nuffin" it ALWAYS turns out to be a lie 100% without fail. How can I be sure that those lynching victims were innocent? Because "he was just smiling at the white girl he dindu nuffin" sounds an awful lot like "hands up don't shoot, he never attacked those cops".

I remember in high school learning about civil rights, the whole long list of Martin Luther King Jr., Rosa Parks, the bus thing, sit-ins, all that jazz. Then the 70s roll around and the history book started talking about the use of buses to force integration that happened then, and it gets maybe a paragraph at most with the summary being essentially "and then in the 1970s they used buses to desegregate schools and some people didn't like it" and then it immediately moved on. I never thought much about it until years later when I read about this: "Black teenagers in Roxbury threw rocks at auto mechanic Richard Poleet's car and caused him to crash. The youths dragged him out and crushed his skull with nearby paving stones. When police arrived, the man was surrounded by a crowd of 100 chanting "Let him die" while lying in a coma from which he never recovered."
Really makes you think.
And if any Italians are reading this, what did your history books say about the anni di piombo? Did they take a truly neutral tone or did they speak more favorably of one side than the other?

 

[spiky]

I'm starting to see that pattern a lot honestly. It is popular now to paint the early white settlers of America as rabid indian killers. When the irony is, indians never colonized because they were too busy killing each other. There was a documntary on youtube about the Salem witch trials. A very high percentage of the witches that were tried had one thing in common: they all had their husbands strangely disappear.... But instead we are taught "Christianity bad mmkay"

Searched and there's a lot of those. Have a link to the specific documentary?

 

[Seminal Ointments Lain]

And if any Italians are reading this, what did your history books say about the anni di piombo? Did they take a truly neutral tone or did they speak more favorably of one side than the other?

They use too much garlic, honestly.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

I'm starting to see that pattern a lot honestly. It is popular now to paint the early white settlers of America as rabid indian killers. When the irony is, indians never colonized because they were too busy killing each other. There was a documntary on youtube about the Salem witch trials. A very high percentage of the witches that were tried had one thing in common: they all had their husbands strangely disappear.... But instead we are taught "Christianity bad mmkay"

I thought the Salem trials were one side of Salem and another side of Salem disagreeing about whether or not they should go to church in another town combined with some family beefs that just snowballed out of control.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

I think the Judge is taking so many breaks because he needs to catch up on the KF Thread.

Nah. The thread’s moving way slower this week.

 

[Alkaline Cab]

Niggas keep saying two autopsies "concluded" homicide. Do they actually? Why hasn't that been brought up in court yet?

The official Hennepin County autopsy is actually considered a homicide by all technicalities, but it is in no way a legal statement (ie the means used to determine guilt, are being used to determine guilt). This means that Chauvin's involvement likely provoked the death, but if it was reasonable (subduing after resisting arrest, which only would kill with drugs) then Chauvin wouldn't be guilty.
The other autopsy was contracted by Floyd's family, which dubious for obvious reasons. They also didn't have access to Floyd's tissue samples.

 

[Niggernerd]

Wikipedia is handling things well.
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[Gehenna]

The official Hennepin County autopsy is actually considered a homicide by all technicalities, but it is in no way a legal statement (ie the means used to determine guilt, are being used to determine guilt). This means that Chauvin's involvement likely provoked the death, but if it was reasonable (subduing after resisting arrest, which only would kill with drugs) then Chauvin wouldn't be guilty.
The other autopsy was contracted by Floyd's family, which dubious for obvious reasons.

It's worth noting that the autopsy doesn't even say that. "Homicide" in criminal justice terms doesn't mean "Murder". Your options on an autopsy are Homicide, Suicide, Unknown, or Natural.

Homicide in this context means "They died through actions that were deliberate to kill themselves and not through natural causes". Every single OD is ruled a homicide, for instance. If a beam were to fall on your head from a construction site, it'd be a homicide. And so on.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

The official Hennepin County autopsy is actually considered a homicide by all technicalities, but it is in no way a legal statement (ie the means used to determine guilt, are being used to determine guilt). This means that Chauvin's involvement likely provoked the death, but if it was reasonable (subduing after resisting arrest, which only would kill with drugs) then Chauvin wouldn't be guilty.
The other autopsy was contracted by Floyd's family, which dubious for obvious reasons.

Just felt I should further clarify, because this confused me when these autopsies came out too, but an autopsy being declared homicide is not as damning as the media would have you believe. Homicide is not murder, just mean a human killing a human. If you shoot someone in self defense it's technically a homicide, just a specific justified kind under the law.

Homicide is one of those words the media has shifted into meaning another.

 

[Spooky Doot Skelly]

Just felt I should further clarify, because this confused me when these autopsies came out too, but an autopsy being declared homicide is not as damning as the media would have you believe. Homicide is not murder, just mean a human killing a human. If you shoot someone in self defense it's technically a homicide, just a specific justified kind under the law.

Homicide is one of those words the media has shifted into meaning another.

But isn't homicide also potentially inaccurate? That's assuming that the knee on GF was the cause of his death which is highly debatable. Seems irresponsible to write an autopsy report while making those huge assumptions.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Why would they get rid of their footsoldiers now? They can dismiss entire cities burning as "mostly peaceful protests" and insist any evidence to the contrary is a "dangerous conspiracy theory", or say the rioters are all white supremacists in disguise.

And it's no wonder the Dems are also pushing for gun control right how. They want you at the mercy of their feral pets. In addition to Kyle, look at the ear-splitting REEEEEEs that occurred over the McCloskeys standing in their front yard armed.

When the BLM riots started near me, I bought a bunch of AR lowers. When Biden got elected, I replaced those lowers with 80% lowers. Now that the riots are about to kick off again and Biden is following through with his handler's gun policies, I'm getting into 3D printing. The best thing about shit getting bad is it allows room for creative growth.

Spoiler: Modern 3D printed gun

 

[Kermit Jizz]

But isn't homicide also potentially inaccurate? That's assuming that the knee on GF was the cause of his death which is highly debatable. Seems irresponsible to write an autopsy report while making those huge assumptions.

I'm not an expert on this shit so idk much on autopsies, but I think Gehenna's comment does more justice. Homicide is just a tricky vague term and on an autopsy report really doesn't mean much.