The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
  • Poll closed .
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On the reddit cope, even after several years of watching them I can't comprehend how they're so blind to any interpretation other than their own. Like for the memes I want Chauvin to moonwalk out of court and dab on the darkies, but I also completely see the manslaughter/negligence argument (even if I don't completely agree with it). These guys are hooping straight copium and projecting it onto the jury
They're so mad and actively furious that the defense is even doing its job, they think they should just give up. They think this is CSI Miami or some shit.
 
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Brainfuck?
 
its pretty surreal to witness how fast this thread went from smug mode to cope mode and now into gloat mode, within just a few days
people have way too much emotional investment in this shit
My dopamine levels are directly tied to twitter cope. If chauvin gets the chair so will I.
 
In minnesota is negligence, i'll post it again.

(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another; or

Unreasonable risk: The risk looked pretty reasonable to me. He had a, what do lawyers say, compelling government interest in restraining Floyd. For their safety (and his, ironically), they needed to keep him from flopping around. They had called an ambulance--and called again to expedite it--to mitigate the risk to Floyd. They talked about excited delirium and Chauvin decided that particular risk required keeping Floyd in place until the ambulance arrived. Chauvin's decisions might have been wrong, but they were reasonable. (Maybe he could have reasoned his way to a better outcome if he wasn't forced to divide his attention between Floyd and the hostile crowd.)

Consciously takes chance of causing death or GBH: Did Chauvin know his actions had a chance of causing death or GBH? Even if he was violating some training guideline or policy, he would have to be consciously aware of the fact that he was taking a chance of causing death or GBH, not just consciously aware that he was breaking a rule. I don't know how that can be proved without some kind of admission. Even a poster in the precinct men's room saying, "Maximum restraint might kill someone!" doesn't prove he was conscious of that fact at that moment, only that he should have known it.

If I were on the jury and this was the charge, I'd set him free.
 
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Lmao wait what?

Baker what the fuck are you talking about
Honestly, probably a miscommunication on his part, cause the ambulance crew can't legally pronounce him dead. Though, in terms of the defense it's literally all he needs to point to and say, "Even the coroner doing the autopsy noted he was alive on the ambulance ride back to the hospital. How could my clients knee have killed him if he still made it to the hospital?"
 
I knew if I went back I'd find something like that you fucking flake.

You: The prosecution is going to prove the knee on the neck killed him.
Also you: W-why does it even matter if he wasn't strangled by n-neck c-c-compression?

C O P E
Ouch. I got second-hand cringe so bad it was like a knee on my neck.
And culpable negligence, as in that statute, is a much higher standard than the level of negligence that applies in a civil case. It is an actual mens rea, not just mere carelessness. It requires an actual criminal state of mind.
Amazing how many people don't understand that criminal court standards are different, and higher, than civil court.

I hope this jury gets it. Chauvin can be a sloppy moron and still be "not guilty" in criminal court.
 
Honestly, probably a miscommunication on his part, cause the ambulance crew can't legally pronounce him dead. Though, in terms of the defense it's literally all he needs to point to and say, "Even the coroner doing the autopsy noted he was alive on the ambulance ride back to the hospital. How could my clients knee have killed him if he still made it to the hospital?"
I mean that would be funny from the defense but I don't think anyone would buy it.

I think Baker must have miscommunicated.
 
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