Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

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But Guillain Barre syndrome is just so unfashionable. Hard to take bodycheck selfies for the 'gram if you're paralyzed from the neck down. I guess it is a good way to get the coveted IgG, though. It raises the question: if a munchie gets IgG and can't post about it on Instagram, did it really happen?

GBS is scary, scary shit. A family acquaintance who was in his mid 50s woke up one day a few years ago completely unable to move. He ended up spending almost a year in the hospital trached and vented, then needed months of inpatient rehab. He eventually made a full recovery but needed an in-home aide for a while. Last I heard his doctor thought he must have had a cold or other viral infection that he never even noticed, but it triggered an immune response that nearly killed him. It's enough to turn anyone into a munchie who analyzes every sniffle.
The eternal queen of my heart Skinwalker claims she has GBS. She doesn’t, but she claims it. She started saying she had it when she was hospitalized for several weeks complaining of weakness, numbness and other issues stemming from her eating disorder. During this time she met Queen Jaquie I of Florida and the reason she went from skinwalking everything Jaquie did to screaming on social media that she was NOTHING AT ALL like Jaquie was because Jaq tried to mine her for info about GBS with the intention of claiming she also had it.

It’s supposedly also the reason Disney decided to can her, because she started demanding more accommodations for her GBS but couldn’t provide documentation that she actually has it.

there’s also a photo she posted of a dialysis machine in her hospital room saying she needed it for aphoresis for the GBS, but the person who was leaking me info said she originally told people she was in kidney failure and needed hemodialysis, then changed it to aphoresis for GBS when they called her out. No one ever saw her hooked up to it and the theory is it was in the room for another patient. This same person also told me when SW got her smaller wheelchair after starving herself out of her old one the order form didn’t list most of the things she claimed, just POTS.

She also claims she has Parkinson’s, heart failure, and half a dozen other devastating illnesses when she actually just has bulimia and a personality disorder. God damn I love her.
 
The eternal queen of my heart Skinwalker claims she has GBS. She doesn’t, but she claims it. She started saying she had it when she was hospitalized for several weeks complaining of weakness, numbness and other issues stemming from her eating disorder. During this time she met Queen Jaquie I of Florida and the reason she went from skinwalking everything Jaquie did to screaming on social media that she was NOTHING AT ALL like Jaquie was because Jaq tried to mine her for info about GBS with the intention of claiming she also had it.

It’s supposedly also the reason Disney decided to can her, because she started demanding more accommodations for her GBS but couldn’t provide documentation that she actually has it.

there’s also a photo she posted of a dialysis machine in her hospital room saying she needed it for aphoresis for the GBS, but the person who was leaking me info said she originally told people she was in kidney failure and needed hemodialysis, then changed it to aphoresis for GBS when they called her out. No one ever saw her hooked up to it and the theory is it was in the room for another patient. This same person also told me when SW got her smaller wheelchair after starving herself out of her old one the order form didn’t list most of the things she claimed, just POTS.

She also claims she has Parkinson’s, heart failure, and half a dozen other devastating illnesses when she actually just has bulimia and a personality disorder. God damn I love her.
I must admit that right before making my account, I went back through and reread your Skinwalker series because it was just so delightful. I am forever in your debt.
 
Christ, the pearl clutching on Reddit. Amy was a hardcore bones Pro-Ana flaunter and all these White Knights insisting she never had an ED are ridiculous. What's with r/munchsnark shutting down discussion? They are all really getting on my nerves over there. KF is the last bastion of hope for TMI-free discussions.
Kassandra/just.my.genes is the latest to go to the great MICU in the sky. She was the one with the $75k gofundme (archive) for her bucket list because she was dying of her very serious hEDS and kept trying to get into hospice for it. She eventually changed her claim to vEDS but there was something weird about it, like the mutation was on the right gene but it was a VUS not known to cause EDS or something like that? I honestly can't remember because I didn't really follow her and wasn't around much when she was "popular."

She had been giving herself bowel obstructions and perforations from abuse of morphine from what I can gather from her insta.

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Am I too cynical to be asking "receipts or GTFO"? Is this Jaquie 2.0 for real? I wonder if she really died ,or if this is her way of dipping out. It seems a little coincidental right after Amy, don't you think? Pardon me if there are receipts, though. It's just that so many of these online munchie people fake their own deaths to kill off their story and get away with it.
 
Kassandra/just.my.genes is the latest to go to the great MICU in the sky. She was the one with the $75k gofundme (archive) for her bucket list because she was dying of her very serious hEDS and kept trying to get into hospice for it. She eventually changed her claim to vEDS but there was something weird about it, like the mutation was on the right gene but it was a VUS not known to cause EDS or something like that? I honestly can't remember because I didn't really follow her and wasn't around much when she was "popular."

She had been giving herself bowel obstructions and perforations from abuse of morphine from what I can gather from her insta.

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What was the possible cause of death? Did she take one of those assisted dying milkshakes?
 
Oh. My. God. These tourettes trenders keep showing up on my tiktok feed. Today I came across Tics and roses. They also say beans????
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I'm living for these Tourette fakers. It's such a garish display of obvious attention-seeking. I keep waiting for one of these cooking tik-toks to end up with them shoving their face into a pot of boiling tomato sauce or something. (They won't, because like fainting fakers, they always make sure to carefully orchestrate their tics to where it won't actually injure them, but the anticipation makes it fun to watch.)
 
Slightly off-topic, but I found something that might be interesting to Munchie-watchers. I've been reading about Victorian life, and I ran across a long passage talking about Alice James (sister of novelist Henry James), who died in 1892. The context was a chapter on Victorian sickrooms and death culture. Some interesting bits bolded.

Alice James was an invalid all her adult life. She possibly took her invalidism to extremes, but it may simply be that, as a highly intelligent woman who kept a diary in which she analyzed herself and her illness remorselessly, we know more about her mental state than about that of many other women in a similar situation. Born in 1848, Alice James grew up in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and by her twentieth birthday she was well on her way to becoming a professional invalid. No letter mentioned her without also mentioning her health; she underwent cures, treatments, therapies. No organic problems were discovered, and her mother referred to "nervous turns" brought on by "exertion"; she considered these periods "genuine hysteria."

After a period of normal life in her twenties, Alice relapsed as she approached her thirtieth birthday. Her father wrote, "Alice is half the time, indeed much more than half, on the verge of insanity and suicide." It is important to note that it was in this time that two of her brothers had married, had children, begun their professional lives; her third brother, William, was teaching at Harvard, and he too had married; Henry had started on his career as a novelist, and had settled into a permanent comfortable bachelorhood. Alice, by contrast, had for a brief time joined Miss Anna Ticknor's Society to Encourage Studies at Home, an early type of correspondence course for those without formal education. She had, in the terms of the middle-class social world, failed: she was not married, and she therefore had no children; she had no overriding concerns, no charity work, no novel-writing, not even a busy social life, all of which would have appeared sufficiently ladylike while giving her a focus. Illness was a a way of putting achievement definitively out of reach. This is not simply a modern take on the situation; her brother Henry wrote after her death that "tragic health was, in a manner, the only solution for her of the practical problem of life."

When Alice was given a purpose, her health recovered:
after her mother's death she cared for her father for more than a year, until his own death, without any of her usual relapses. As soon as he began to fail, she failed too. The day after his funeral she collapsed and needed nursing for a year afterward.

In the 1880s Alice left America for England, where she remained for the rest of her life, mostly with her companion Katherine Loring. She remained an invalid in mind if not in body from now on. Improvements were hedged about with what her state "really" was. "I am gradually getting stronger & am able to do a great deal more, but as always happens as my physical strength increases my nervous distress & susceptibility grows with it, so that from an inside view it is somewhat an exchange of evils." Everything in the household had to revolve around the invalid: the least lack of care or attention was punished by relapse. When a window was left open an inch on a landing outside her sickroom, in "consequence I was laid up the next day with rheumatism in my head, unable to move or breath for twelve hrs." As Alice herself said in mockery, "How well one has to be, to be ill!"

The difference between Alice and many other invalids was her outspoken desire for death, if only to prove that her illnesses had been physical all along: "Doctors tell you that you will die, or recover! But you don't recover. I have been at these alternations since I was nineteen and I am neither dead nor recovered." When, in May 1891, she was finally diagnosed with an organic disease--breast cancer--she was jubilant: "To him who waits, all things come! ... Ever since I have been ill, I have longed and longed for some palpable disease." Finally, after a lifetime, she had found something to distinguish her. It was, she told William, "the most supremely interesting moment in life." As a person beyond hope of recovery one becomes, she noted, "suddenly picturesque to oneself, and one's wavering little individuality stands out with cameo effect."

Her wavering little individuality could be boosted only by her looming death. Not all invalids felt like that, but, as Alice was aware, not all families were like the Jameses. She noted, two weeks after the initial diagnosis, "Within the last year [Henry] has published the 'Tragic Muse,' brought out 'The American' & written a play .. combined with William's ['Principles of] Psychology[']. Not a bad show for one family! Especially if I get myself dead, the hardest job of all." When she had finally achieved her difficult task, Henry acknowledged her desire: "She lies as the very perfection of the image of what she had longed for years, & at the last with pathetic intensity, to be." William responded, "What a blessed thing to be able to say, that task is over!"

TL;DR: Intelligent woman with Victorian version of failure to launch becomes obsessed with illness, relapses when she has nothing to do, turns her condition into an identity, and is thrilled when she's diagnosed with cancer years later.
 
Slightly off-topic, but I found something that might be interesting to Munchie-watchers. I've been reading about Victorian life, and I ran across a long passage talking about Alice James (sister of novelist Henry James), who died in 1892. The context was a chapter on Victorian sickrooms and death culture. Some interesting bits bolded.

Alice James was an invalid all her adult life. She possibly took her invalidism to extremes, but it may simply be that, as a highly intelligent woman who kept a diary in which she analyzed herself and her illness remorselessly, we know more about her mental state than about that of many other women in a similar situation. Born in 1848, Alice James grew up in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and by her twentieth birthday she was well on her way to becoming a professional invalid. No letter mentioned her without also mentioning her health; she underwent cures, treatments, therapies. No organic problems were discovered, and her mother referred to "nervous turns" brought on by "exertion"; she considered these periods "genuine hysteria."

After a period of normal life in her twenties, Alice relapsed as she approached her thirtieth birthday. Her father wrote, "Alice is half the time, indeed much more than half, on the verge of insanity and suicide." It is important to note that it was in this time that two of her brothers had married, had children, begun their professional lives; her third brother, William, was teaching at Harvard, and he too had married; Henry had started on his career as a novelist, and had settled into a permanent comfortable bachelorhood. Alice, by contrast, had for a brief time joined Miss Anna Ticknor's Society to Encourage Studies at Home, an early type of correspondence course for those without formal education. She had, in the terms of the middle-class social world, failed: she was not married, and she therefore had no children; she had no overriding concerns, no charity work, no novel-writing, not even a busy social life, all of which would have appeared sufficiently ladylike while giving her a focus. Illness was a a way of putting achievement definitively out of reach. This is not simply a modern take on the situation; her brother Henry wrote after her death that "tragic health was, in a manner, the only solution for her of the practical problem of life."

When Alice was given a purpose, her health recovered:
after her mother's death she cared for her father for more than a year, until his own death, without any of her usual relapses. As soon as he began to fail, she failed too. The day after his funeral she collapsed and needed nursing for a year afterward.

In the 1880s Alice left America for England, where she remained for the rest of her life, mostly with her companion Katherine Loring. She remained an invalid in mind if not in body from now on. Improvements were hedged about with what her state "really" was. "I am gradually getting stronger & am able to do a great deal more, but as always happens as my physical strength increases my nervous distress & susceptibility grows with it, so that from an inside view it is somewhat an exchange of evils." Everything in the household had to revolve around the invalid: the least lack of care or attention was punished by relapse. When a window was left open an inch on a landing outside her sickroom, in "consequence I was laid up the next day with rheumatism in my head, unable to move or breath for twelve hrs." As Alice herself said in mockery, "How well one has to be, to be ill!"

The difference between Alice and many other invalids was her outspoken desire for death, if only to prove that her illnesses had been physical all along: "Doctors tell you that you will die, or recover! But you don't recover. I have been at these alternations since I was nineteen and I am neither dead nor recovered." When, in May 1891, she was finally diagnosed with an organic disease--breast cancer--she was jubilant: "To him who waits, all things come! ... Ever since I have been ill, I have longed and longed for some palpable disease." Finally, after a lifetime, she had found something to distinguish her. It was, she told William, "the most supremely interesting moment in life." As a person beyond hope of recovery one becomes, she noted, "suddenly picturesque to oneself, and one's wavering little individuality stands out with cameo effect."

Her wavering little individuality could be boosted only by her looming death. Not all invalids felt like that, but, as Alice was aware, not all families were like the Jameses. She noted, two weeks after the initial diagnosis, "Within the last year [Henry] has published the 'Tragic Muse,' brought out 'The American' & written a play .. combined with William's ['Principles of] Psychology[']. Not a bad show for one family! Especially if I get myself dead, the hardest job of all." When she had finally achieved her difficult task, Henry acknowledged her desire: "She lies as the very perfection of the image of what she had longed for years, & at the last with pathetic intensity, to be." William responded, "What a blessed thing to be able to say, that task is over!"

TL;DR: Intelligent woman with Victorian version of failure to launch becomes obsessed with illness, relapses when she has nothing to do, turns her condition into an identity, and is thrilled when she's diagnosed with cancer years later.
She was the only girl in the family and in those days not much was available to her. She saw her brothers getting a the attention and pampering and was told all she was good for was breeding and being caregiver. She then munches for attention.
In her 20s she may have felt more free because she could marry a man whod give her more freedom as it would happen sometimes, but this didnt happen so when she gets older she goes back to her munching ways.
I'm not sure if she was an ana chan, munchies generally are, if you put all this together it isn't difficult to understand why shed try to be so child like. In oppressive cultures childhood is the only time women have any degree of freedom and equality.

I feel sorry for her and contempt. If she was so smart she could have done as other women did in her day and before it, dress like a man and go out into the world, maybe even join the military as a man, but if you are a professional invalid that may not be appealing.

If she had been born today she'd be one of those intellectual "not like other girls" types with anxiety and autism that are commonly found in stem and sometimes humanities, faking diseases for attention. (Not all stem women are like this, just the annoying ones that drive the others out)
 
Well yeah, any serious viral disease has a long tail of rare sequelae. Multiple a tiny number by a billion and you will find someone with something (inc oddball stuff like erectile dysfunction).

And no, seeing "damage" on a radiograph or MRI isn't news; just about everyone has some minor defect or another. You need real controlled studies to determine exactly what COVID does differently than some other virus for it to be significant.

Good evening,

My name is Maw and I’m the Dean of Johns Hopkins School of Medicine. I have noticed you have debunked COVID-19‘s long term effects by exposing the fact that everyone has “minor defects and another” on their MRIs and how radiologists have missed this for decades now. It is extremely well documented by joint teams from Johns Hopkins, Emory, Northwestern, Yale, DeVry, and Harvard that they’ve only started noticing this on COVID-19 patients, and not for any other new diseases in which MRIs are used. For some reason this was kept in silence for so long; until you came along to help us see the light.


long covid is the cherry on top of the COVID hysteria shit sundae.

Zero objective evidence for it; claimed symptoms overlap 100% with anxiety; idiot reporters sourcing from fb groups...it's the munchie's wet dream.

The fact that you have seen the light and debunked long COVID-19 as anxiety-in-disguise is revolutionary. I have already called our research lab and told them to immediately conclude as we now have that answer we have been looking for for so long. We knew anxiety can cause a lot of weird responses in humans, but the revelation it also produces COVID-19 viral load in the back of the throat has shocked many of our top researchers.

, but it's a lot better to have that then go on a hunt for the quack who will substantiate your delusions.

This is consistent with our findings that these claims regarding COVID-19 have one been found by a single doctor, Dr. Dre.

Find me Long COVID that isn't one of post-viral syndrome, not clearing the infection the first time, anxiety, or damage influenza/other serious viral diseases wouldn't (including cytokine storm consequences, which is your immune system going nuts and attempting to kill you. Happens all the time).

Whats truly amazing is how no one with a medical degree has ever even thought of this. I will forward this to the bioinformatics department and tell them that we will need statistics in the future instead of just making up stuff and guessing as medical research often does until they’re corrected by a truther.
——

Thank you for your contributions to society and the advancement of medical knowledge. I will accept nothing less than for you to immediately quit your current job to become Surgeon General of the United States of America, and sleep with my wife at once.


Sincerely,
Dr. Maw
Dean of Johns Hopkins Medicine
 
I'm living for these Tourette fakers. It's such a garish display of obvious attention-seeking. I keep waiting for one of these cooking tik-toks to end up with them shoving their face into a pot of boiling tomato sauce or something. (They won't, because like fainting fakers, they always make sure to carefully orchestrate their tics to where it won't actually injure them, but the anticipation makes it fun to watch.)
I know, I can't look away. I did see one touch a hot pot lid to his head, but yeah they would never truly inure themselves, or even actually ruin what they are working on.
Do yall think this will come to some kind of head? Like main stream media picks up on it since it's so rampant right now?
I feel so bad for people with actual tics and tourettes. They're gonna get lumped in with this bunch.
 
Mental illness trends come and go, but KFS's love for skin walker is eternal. It's nice consistency in this trying apocalypse.
She's the only one who has tried to take me to court. That means she really truly loves me.

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She served papers to an innocent person I've never met.
 
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I get that "long covid", in all its vagueness, is munchie heaven - but that doesn't mean it's not real. Same with hEDS. Just because munchies are gonna take advantage of any poorly-understood condition (or that a condition might have multiple differential diagnoses, including anxiety or deconditioning), that doesn't make the condition fake.
 
Christ, the pearl clutching on Reddit. Amy was a hardcore bones Pro-Ana flaunter and all these White Knights insisting she never had an ED are ridiculous. What's with r/munchsnark shutting down discussion? They are all really getting on my nerves over there. KF is the last bastion of hope for TMI-free discussions.

Am I too cynical to be asking "receipts or GTFO"? Is this Jaquie 2.0 for real? I wonder if she really died ,or if this is her way of dipping out. It seems a little coincidental right after Amy, don't you think? Pardon me if there are receipts, though. It's just that so many of these online munchie people fake their own deaths to kill off their story and get away with it.
A lot of munchsnark doesn’t have the full context/history of long-running munchies, which gets annoying. The newer munchies don’t seem to elicit as much white knighting, but the long-haulers (yes that’s a jab at covid long haulers) get a lot of inappropriate sympathy...
 
TL;DR: Intelligent woman with Victorian version of failure to launch becomes obsessed with illness, relapses when she has nothing to do, turns her condition into an identity, and is thrilled when she's diagnosed with cancer years later.
this is actually my field of study and I am going to vomit some words now sorry mods ilu. It really was not unusual for educated middle-class women to fake sick in order to opt out of compulsory marriage and motherhood, especially during the era where property ownership and sources for independent income were scarce. It was kind of a face-save for all involved because you weren't failing to adhere to the culture, you were just sick and that's not your fault. Even in the US, the culture of that era was absolutely wild with a rigid social structure. No shit, they sold chairs in sets wherein one was very large, ornate, and comfortable, reserved for the exclusive use of the man of the house and increasingly less comfortable, less ornate ones for the not-important members of the family. Most also came with a very uncomfortable and unadorned one to place in the front hall so guests that you did not want to talk to could sit and wait for an embarrassing amount of time, because it was rude to leave right away and ruder to insist on being seen. The pressure on women to be good wives and mothers of silent, well-behaved children, to make and maintain social contact with the right people, to be entertaining, and to "keep up with the Joneses" was absolutely enormous. It's absolutely not shocking that a whole lot of women found their out where they could get it.

Some of these women probably did have some shitty disease that wasn't diagnosible or treatable at the time. Like Elizabeth Barrett Browning probably had some kind of metabolic disorder that caused bouts of excruciating pain and would have been diagnosed and treatable if she lived today. Others were really sick during prime marryin' age and recovered but had enough lifelong problems stemming from it that a normal life would not have been possible. But a lot just started having mysterious "health problems" as they were reaching the age where they would have had to marry and have children. You can actually find Lancet articles where doctors discuss cases of a woman faking sick, the doctors acknowledge she is faking, but they pretend to go along with it because she's not qualified to get married and have babies.

There was also the "cult of mourning" in the era and the bulk of the burden fell on women and girls. When a family member died their corpse would be laid out in the parlor for a few days while friends and family came to pay respects (and also to make sure they were really dead) and little girls were often involved in the, er, maintenance like cleaning and dressing the body, caring for the flowers people dropped off so people couldn't smell that Grandpa was starting to rot, etc. Little girls were given small toy coffins to play funeral with their baby dolls and took long walks in the cemetery on Sundays. Death and dying was not an abstract to these girls. It was something they lived with and some grew up to romanticize it.

Middle-middle and lower-middle class women who didn't want to just be wife and mother tended to actually go into the medical field themselves, as caretakers or midwives and eventually trained nurses and doctors, or they became teachers. But someone in the upper-middle class wouldn't have had this as an option because getting a job was for those women, not you. Amongst the middling sort, though, it was ideal because teachers and nurses weren't supposed to get married and have families. Their job was to be everyone else's mommy and it was believed if they had their own families to worry about, they would not give the patients/students they cared for their full attention and energy. Some of the wealthy spinsters also used this excuse in their own way, throwing their energy and their (parents') money into shit like free public library campaigns and claiming they sacrificed their own chance at motherhood in order to devote themselves to improving the lives of the poor children whose mothers had to work or whatever.

BTW, this is all separate from "consumption chic" where women tried to adopt the look of Tuberculosis patients. That was actually the opposite. They wanted to get married and mimicing the thin, dewy-eyed, rosy-cheeked, pink-lipped, cherubic look of late-stage consumption patients was one way to go about getting a man. This went out of fashion immediately when the germs that cause consumption were discovered and it became a gross disease instead of a beautiful curse.

The women I studied the most in depth were a couple doctors, a flock of nurses, and a pair of school teachers who all lived in a cluster of shared houses. I would have preferred to have some fake invalids in my net as well but since they were kind of society's ghosts, kept in bedrooms in their parents' houses and rarely seen by anyone, it's not really easy to track them down. I do know one of the houses nearby was a super-wealthy family that had three unwed daughters who were all listed as invalids but there's no way to know if they were faking sick to save face or if there was some nasty shit lurking in their genes that really made them all sick. It's actually easier to find information about the live-in nurses and maids caring for them than the daughters themselves. The reason we know so much about James' fake illness was a mix of famous family and the fact that she documented it all for us.

Among this small sample of women I stalked, there is strong evidence that two of the "companionships" (the two teachers and a pair of nurses) were actually homosexual relationships. So they were opting out of heterosexuality, not married life. The nurses even adopted two children as they got to retirement age. The newspapers reported on these women like they were celebrities when they were in their working years, where they were going for the summer, who they were having Christmas dinner with, what they were wearing. They were interviewed about their home lives. Their patients and students regularly wrote editorials about what great people they were. This was not done to any of the other women in the group, just these two couples. I am convinced the entire town knew they were homos and this was their way of telling people from the less progressive nearby towns "you leave them alone they ain't doin' nothin' to no one!"

I mention this because I am completely convinced that some of these women were probably just lesbians who were repulsed by the idea of marrying a man but unable to find a way out other than "be sick, stay at home." The fact that James had a lifelong female companion she lived with is not quite the smoking gun it would appear to be, but I have to admit that was the first thing my brain went to especially after reading that both were educators at one point. The book Odd Girls and Twilight Lovers by Lilian Faderman has a whole chapter on these wealthy, super-educated women of the very late 19th century going into academia so they enter into "companionships" with other highly educated women and no one would bother them.
 
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