Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Honestly surprised no doctor tried this sooner, I had assumed they were already doing this given that one of the symptoms is literally coughing a shit ton. What the fuck medical industry?
Medical industry has a lot of bureaucratic red tape (like anything else) that the government is involved with. And when government gets involved, things slow down to a sloth's pace.

It's possible the personal doctors were making sure people with a history of respiratory issues had an inhaler at the start of this (my doctor did it for my family) but no one looked at the data to see if that actually made a difference until now.
 
Aside from just ignoring it altogether, we really would've been in a much better place by now if we'd devoted time and money to treatments instead of these shitty "vaccines" that don't actually provide any sort of sterilizing immunity. Considering how few people get seriously affected by the coof, our resources would have been better spent figuring out how to help them recover instead of pointlessly jabbing every healthy person. Hell, shipping a bottle of multivitamins to every household would have done more to help, and at a fraction of the cost.

But that doesn't give Big Pharma a giant payday, so jabs it is.
 

WE all know why Texas didn't have a surge after lifting the mask mandate. It's the same reason why there was no surge in cases after all those Antifa/BLM riots and Trump rallies.

I had The Coof back in October. It sucked. I barely coughed but was incredibly fatigued and my blood pressure would shoot through the roof at random. Kinda scary but I lived. A family member had it and now has worse asthma than before. Sucks, but still alive.

It's almost like if the human body was a ratty garden hose, and Covid-19 is a high-pressure stream of water running through it. If there's a weak spot, it will get worse or maybe break.

Take some vitamin D. Try to stay fit. Know that TPTB are up to something. Be nice to people but take no shit.
 
I still have yet to have it properly explained to me how getting the vaccine is better than recovering from COVID? People I know literally got the vaccine mere days/week after recovering from COVID (positive test results and everything), and my mind is still reeling. I asked them why they didn't just wait because they have the antibodies and was told "you can still get COVID after recovering from it." Bitch, same with the vaccine. What the hell is the difference?

I once had a bright spot of hope because I had heard a radio advertisement asking people who have recovered to donate blood due to the fresh immune system response. Guess the joke was on me.

It's all irrelevant, though. I will not get the vaccine until the distributing companies are responsible for adverse side effects. Guilt trip me all you want, that's my line in the sand.
 
You know what?

I see this shit, and I just don't care anymore.

Like they could have a smoking gun, a memo from the Wuhan Institiute of Virology thanking Fauci for giving them cash with an excerpt from a paper proving they created COVID and...

...it will go nowhere.

The media won't report on it seriously, if it gets out they will only deboonk it, and then bury it.

Nobody will hear about this, no normie will take it seriously, and it will be repeated as one more example of "SCIENCE DENYING RETHUGLICAN ANTIVAXXER BELIEFS".

It gets disheartening after awhile.

"Mankind will never truly be free until the last journalist is strangled with the entrails of the last CEO while being bludgeoned with the femur of the last "scientist". In Resident Evil, of course."
-Diderot
 
Like why not just attack its efficacy instead of "HCQ kills you and only trumptards take it!"?
I agree with you on this point. Name calling does nothing to address the valid issue that medicine is not an exact science in that what works for one person won't necessarily work for another. That would be a more plausible argument against HCQ and other drug therapies than anything we've seen so far that quickly degrades to some combination of name calling and political posturing.

Unfortunately, facts and logic don't seem to exist any more -- especially when it comes to argumentation and debate (or what passes for those today).

the lack of socialization and seeing people has fucked me up hardcore
The lack of socialization has also been a difficult adjustment for me. Virtual meetings have their purpose and benefits, but they're no replacement for in-person interaction. Also, many group meetings prevent individuals other than the presenter from interacting with each other, so it's nearly impossible for people to interact privately with each other as they might before or after an in-person meeting. The Zoom chat box is not an adequate replacement for this aspect of socialization.

I have a strong feeling that this shit is going to be coming to an end soon, just feeling the energy of how fed up the general population is with all of it is exciting.
I thought things were changing for the better once Biden took over as the US President, COVID numbers started to drop, and restrictions slowly eased up -- especially with the narrative Democrats spun that they were handling COVID much better than Trump did while citing the decrease in numbers to bolster their claims. The latest increase in numbers is puzzling because I'm not sure how much of it is from COVID variants running their course and how much of it is being used as justification to indefinitely keep existing (or new) restrictions in place.

Medical industry has a lot of bureaucratic red tape (like anything else) that the government is involved with. And when government gets involved, things slow down to a sloth's pace.
That and the prescription drug lobbies are rather influential. The lobbyists are so relentless that my doctor's office eventually posted a note on the outside door telling drug representatives they're no longer welcome inside because it's too much of a time drain on an already-busy daily schedule.

It's a shame too, because relatively minor ailments can sometimes be treated with natural, non-drug remedies. Unfortunately, people in the US get incessantly bombarded with the message that a pill or two can cure whatever ails them. This surprises people visiting from other countries where prescription drugs are seen as an option only if natural remedies don't or won't treat an ailment.
 
but what about deadly Brasil strain? Aren't you afraid? Supposedly it kills young people!!
I can't find the link to the study, but basically that number comes from a single digit # of hospitalizations of people under 40 in Brazil prior to the new strain dominating the gene pool then jumping to another single digit # of deaths of people under 40 in that same Brazilian state after the new strain.

See the thing about numbers as low as like 0.001 is that they can jump to something like 0.003, and while still statistically insignificant can be reported as a "300% increase"
 
Honestly surprised no doctor tried this sooner, I had assumed they were already doing this given that one of the symptoms is literally coughing a shit ton. What the fuck medical industry?
I distinctly remember steroids being mentioned as a treatment within the first couple months of the virus being the talk of the town. I actually looked into getting some steroids for this reason.

But like with hydroxychloroquine it probably ran into the problem that it'd be using a medication for a purpose it wasn't approved for. I can't help but suspect a major reason for resistance is that governments and the medical industry keep using China as a the poster child for how to treat Rona, so they don't want to deviate from the Chinese treatments which even included intubating people that didn't need it (was to keep hospital workers from breathing the same air as patients).
 
<In response to me asking why he doesn't move to a more open state>
Because I have a job and own a house? It's not as easy as that to pack up and move someplace that opened bars earlier, especially when 2 years from now the Federal government may be just as crazy with rules in every state.
Moving isn't easy but it's not all that difficult either. Right now real estate is insane, might want to consider cashing some equity out regardless of moving or not. Many think we're due for a real estate correction soon, myself included. Feels like 2008 all over again but even bigger. Renting cheaply can save you some money, and give you options like being able to pick and up go easier. Something to consider.

Open states are signalling that they are resisting the feds, I don't see that changing if the feds go full covid nazis. Do you really want to live somewhere that an unwarranted panic over "variants" can shutdown the economy without any warning? That isn't a long-term sustainable area that will be prosperous for very long.

I can feel it in the air that things are going to get worse, so I'm being very careful who I choose to surround myself with. I hope anyone reading this at least considers it as well. One thing I do know is that I'm doing much better now that I moved to an open state with no shutdowns and no masks, and most importantly knowing neither of those things are on the horizon either.
 
Some autist on Russian imageboard suggested this treatment over 1 year ago. It's logical - glucocorticosteroid inhalations inhibit immune response in lung tissues while causing little systemic effect. This way the immune system won't fuck up lungs with inflammation, while protecting the rest of the body from COVID or secondary infections (huge issue, especially for ICU patients). Also, side effects of inhaled GCS are mild.
 
Has anyone heard of this anti-parasite drug or something called Ivermectin that's being used preventively against COVID? Some family of mine is considering getting into it since the president of his company has been taking it for 6 months on the private advice of his doctor, who's also been taking it. Saw a video of some doctor claiming in some kind of hearing in Wisconsin that it's effective with several tests, but the FDA isn't reccomending it.

It sounds to me that it's similar to
Hydroxychloroquine, in the sense that they're both cheap medicines that supposedly reduced symptoms. A conspiratorial part of me suspects that the FDA doesn't want people to be self-medicating cause they want everyone to go for the vaccines, but perhaps they just can't reccomend it cause it's relatively untested. Just wanted to hear if anyone heard of it so I can see if it's worth looking into.
Yes, Ivermectin is one of the drugs that for whatever reason has shown effective treating COVID, problem is it's pennies a dose. Can't have that. So what you gotta do is tell the nigger cattle that it's horse dewormer (which as an anti-parasitical it is) and will kill you if you take it.

I never really understood the HCQ craze in the first place.
One side was treating it like a magical anti-COVID cure, the other was acting like it was poison.

The reality was it probably helped reduce symptoms but was far from a full preventative or effective treatment; but acting like a drug that has been around for decades is suddenly fucking poison raised so many alarm bells in the back of my head.
Like why not just attack its efficacy instead of "HCQ kills you and only trumptards take it!"?
Nah, it was actually ludicruously effective if taken early on when infection is suspected. You just don't see much use from it if you're already hospitalized, by then it's too late for HCQ as a treatment. As a prophylaxis though? Practically a miracle drug. Same thing as Ivermectin though, pennies on the dose and that ain't gonna make Pfizer any money.

Also, does anyone else thing longpig when they hear a Branch COVIDian talk about Long COVID?
 
I agree with you on this point. Name calling does nothing to address the valid issue that medicine is not an exact science in that what works for one person won't necessarily work for another. That would be a more plausible argument against HCQ and other drug therapies than anything we've seen so far that quickly degrades to some combination of name calling and political posturing.
It seems like it's a good argument for it as a first run. Try this treatment first whose side effects been known for decades, so nothing can take you by surprise, then move on to other things if it doesn't work.
pennies on the dose and that ain't gonna make Pfizer any money.
I can see why pfizer is running trials on babies a half-year old.
 
I distinctly remember steroids being mentioned as a treatment within the first couple months of the virus being the talk of the town. I actually looked into getting some steroids for this reason.

But like with hydroxychloroquine it probably ran into the problem that it'd be using a medication for a purpose it wasn't approved for. I can't help but suspect a major reason for resistance is that governments and the medical industry keep using China as a the poster child for how to treat Rona, so they don't want to deviate from the Chinese treatments which even included intubating people that didn't need it (was to keep hospital workers from breathing the same air as patients).
In order to get emergency use authorization, there has to be no existing approved treatment for the illness that the drug that is being authorized for. That's it. That's literally why you had the pharmaceutical ad buyers pressing the media to demonize any kind of treatment for COVID. It's why we have not had any approved treatments for COVID besides ventilators which just kill COVID patients who have gotten that bad faster. Congrats, the bio-security state has been killing people by the tens of thousands to get emergency use authorization to run a trial of mRNA vaccines directly on humans because every animal test they've run has been a fucking disaster. That's all this has been, an excuse to run trials for mRNA vaccines.

I am so tired of this shit and I cannot see Branch COVIDians as anything other than nigger cattle.
 
What's really starting to grind my gears is the casualness with which people talk about this to friends, coworkers, casual acquaintances, even strangers.

People just volunteer up "oh, I got my 2nd shot yesterday" to anyone, or come right out and ask if you got jabbed yet. It's none of their goddamn business, but you look like a Science Denier if you refuse to answer and if you say no you feel like a pariah if you don't have a reason as to why you aren't getting one. Waiting for the day when you say in public you don't want the vax everyone around you starts screaming like Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Personal health info as a casual conversation starter, what a world.
Yeah this is happening constantly in my workplace now. Thus far nobody has pushed me on it but I'm building up some real rage and a lecture about private health information for the first time someone does.
Do what I do and lie.
I was asked the other day by one of my colleagues, a fanatical Branch Covidian, whether I had gotten the jab. Of course I have, the Pfizer, which we both agreed was the best one,. Mutual congrats all round and he left happy. He's a fat, retarded troublemaker and I give zero fucks about misleading any rude fuck who'd ask.

Besides the Covid passports are not going to work. Unless they bring in a Chinese style top down surveillance state people are too lazy to comply. Remember the contact tracing apps that were supposed to track down all the potential coof cases? Total waste of time. The idea that every shop, gym, sports stadium and bowling alley in the country is going to ask you to show your papers as a condition of service is hilariously unrealistic. Besides I imagine it will be trivially easy to cheat the system. I 'm from a country where millions of illegals drive, work, go to school and vote with no paperwork. Our government is too lazy and incompetent to run a system like that, their ambitions way outmatch their abilities.
I thought about this, and I have been lying about all the "high risk" shit I've been doing, like frequent travel and shit, but honestly it just gets tiring. Lying about this is probably the smartest thing to do, but for some reason this is where I'm at my limit. I'm not getting the vaccine and if you want to know why you can eat shit and die. My personal health decisions are none of your god damn business and the first dumb bitch to step over the line and set off the pent-up aggression I've been building about this issue is absolutely going to regret it.
 
but what about deadly Brasil strain? Aren't you afraid? Supposedly it kills young people!!
It could be interesting to know how many of these young people who got Brazil-chan are white/black/mestizo/mullato?

There's another report who talk of a comparo between HCQ and favipiravir. I hope it's not a shitty product like remdesivir.

Abstract​

Favipiravir is considered a potential treatment for COVID-19 due its efficacy against different viral infections. We aimed to explore the safety and efficacy of favipiravir in treatment of COVID-19 mild and moderate cases. It was randomized-controlled open-label interventional phase 3 clinical trial [NCT04349241]. 100 patients were recruited from 18th April till 18th May. 50 patients received favipiravir 3200 mg at day 1 followed by 600 mg twice (day 2–day 10). 50 patients received hydroxychloroquine 800 mg at day 1 followed by 200 mg twice (day 2–10) and oral oseltamivir 75 mg/12 h/day for 10 days. Patients were enrolled from Ain Shams University Hospital and Assiut University Hospital. Both arms were comparable as regards demographic characteristics and comorbidities. The average onset of SARS-CoV-2 PCR negativity was 8.1 and 8.3 days in HCQ-arm and favipiravir-arm respectively. 55.1% of those on HCQ-arm turned PCR negative at/or before 7th day from diagnosis compared to 48% in favipiravir-arm (p = 0.7). 4 patients in FVP arm developed transient transaminitis on the other hand heartburn and nausea were reported in about 20 patients in HCQ-arm. Only one patient in HCQ-arm died after developing acute myocarditis resulted in acute heart failure. Favipiravir is a safe effective alternative for hydroxychloroquine in mild or moderate COVID-19 infected patients.
 
So we are about a week into the third wave nonsense, hardcore lockdown territory yet again. They are essentially preventing people from getting supplies that are deemed to be not essential, such as clothes, baby stuff, toys, and so on in a lot of businesses. I have seen bunch of posts of stores around town that have had big fucking X's a crossed things like shoes or anything of that nature in the stores. I have seen many of the lefty cucked Leafs seethe over this new wave of lockdowns as soon as the weather began to get nicer. Seems to me that people are finally beginning to realize the ramifications, though there are a fair share of Karen's and vaccine peddlers.

My Chef buddy of mine said the restaurant was doing good and was finally going to get me back on the schedule because the hours where there, but then...BAM, Doug Ford shut down the whole fucking provience again. Hence I still await my job to have me back, yet for another wave of lockdowns. Apparently there is a rumor that most of the restaurants, bars, and small businesses a like a currently in talks of doing a full scale resistance, just opening their fucking doors and telling the province and the mayor to get fucked. I have never seen so many closed businesses, even 2008 wasn't this fucking bad.

People are super fed up, I'm super fed up. I try to get out as much as I can, but only can do so much when nothing is open, you are limited of where you can go, and especially for the levels of comfort people have with each other at the moment. You don't know how hardcore most people have been blasted with propaganda or not.

Currently in the process of finishing my first year of digital school. I can admit despite the not being in person thing has its disadvantages, I like not having to take an hour and a half to get to school. Though the lack of socialization and seeing people has fucked me up hardcore. I was outside just going to the store the other day, first nice day of Spring, and I was tripping about the fact it's been a fucking year of this. Like the psychological effects are ridiculous, I couldn't imagine what prisoners feel like though. The feeling I can imagine would be some what similar.

This is how the government, and globalists view the respective populations of the community. Cattle, no empathy, and disconnected from the common ones. I've been fortunate enough to maintain somewhat distracted because of my post secondary endeavors, so I haven't really had the ability to dwell on it, unlike this time last year when it all began. The shit that we've all seen over the last year is unfucking believable, I can't imagine talking to me two years in the past, and tell him what the twenties where going to involve.

I have a strong feeling that this shit is going to be coming to an end soon, just feeling the energy of how fed up the general population is with all of it is exciting. Though at the same time, the amount of brute force anger is something to behold. May this finally be the tipping point for people to take their constitutional rights back??? Probably not lol, just going to seethe, bitch on Twitter, and still not go out and vote. Or still think the same globalist card carrying factions are still going to be their saving grace, meanwhile still indulging in the slop from the gatekeepers trouth.

Canada is a failed state at this point, which I can see it resemble a communist bloc country at this point. Anything not associated with the state has been wiped out, property values have risen too high, inflation has set in driving up prices to suck astronomical rates it is sickening. All of the main line parties represent the same oppressive anti human rhetoric. I think the good thing out of all of the bad are the sensible folk are more focused and United despite the year of suffering. Blue check marks and the same Globo-Hommo troons have killed all creditably, blowing their load too quick. Trying to get as many people in their clown world level of control as possible. I pray that as a society we learn from this, and we remember the lessons.

The question is will we? Seeing most of those on this forum are of mixed demographic, I suggest that the sentiment from the coof was that it was the biggest propaganda campaign I have ever seen in my life. I've lived through September 11th, Iraq War, Obama Years, and Arab Spring. Those where all campaigns with their own effects, but this was a joint effort between the usual suspects. Get the jab and eat their bugs they say, is beginning to remind me of the sentiment of let them eat their cake. Maybe we can finally cut the head off of this hydra for good, one spergy shit post at a time.
I saw some uber feminists bitching about the lockdowns, and how the health care system lies about "healthy" people dying. I think there's a decent chance of violent revolution. On the other hand I see people wearing their masks in the gym changeroom so maybe more people are super cucks than I expected.
 
I can't find the link to the study, but basically that number comes from a single digit # of hospitalizations of people under 40 in Brazil prior to the new strain dominating the gene pool then jumping to another single digit # of deaths of people under 40 in that same Brazilian state after the new strain.

See the thing about numbers as low as like 0.001 is that they can jump to something like 0.003, and while still statistically insignificant can be reported as a "300% increase"

It might have been Manaus.

There was a surge of cases/deaths in Latin America, and Manaus had the highest infection rate.
So of course MSM used those figure to show how the Brazil variant was so deadly.
 
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