The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

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  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%

  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%

  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%

  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%
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    992
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Pokemonquistador2 said:
Any truth to 4chan's assertion that richies and foreigners are buying up all of the small town real estate so you'll be forced to live in the pod and eat the bugs?

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There has to be some strange shit afoot. I just looked at property in Illinois on Redfin. Some small communities have the oldest listing at 7-9 days. Other communities, some of the same size but most a bit larger, have listings months old. I can't see any rhyme or reason to it. So is homebuyer demand that crazy or do banks have something to do with it?

If its the banks you can bet some of those homes will go to brave POC who will diversify Americas small towns ;^)))))))))))))
 
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never forget the law and order the court, judge, and jury are fighting to uphold :semperfidelis:


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Rei is shit said:
There has to be some strange shit afoot. I just looked at property in Illinois on Redfin. Some small communities have the oldest listing at 7-9 days. Other communities, some of the same size but most a bit larger, have listings months old. I can't see any rhyme or reason to it. So is homebuyer demand that crazy or do banks have something to do with it?

If its the banks you can bet some of those homes will go to brave POC who will diversify Americas small towns ;^)))))))))))))
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It could be from people leaving big cities due to their fucked up state they are all in. Kind of like how Calfornians are leaving for Texas except now its big city dwellers leaving for rural towns. Either way, get ready to be diversified because Minneapolis won't be sending their best. Maybe small towns need to build a wall?
 
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AnOminous said:
I believe so. I believe every single juror, without exception, admitted they already had a negative opinion of the defendant, and at least some expressed concerns for their own safety as well.
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IIRC 2-3 said they have no opinion of chauvin, but they all swore they could set aside personal prior opinions to decide fairly, and there's reason enough to believe them, it happens every day and has happened plenty of times in similar trials before. mi amigo zimmerman didn't walk because the jury all thought he was a stellar cool dude to be around. Maybe enough has changed and the mob/media are so brazen in their intimidation they'll fall in line, but that's far from the only outcome.

I get ignoring it all and doomsaying, I get following the trial, only thing I really don't get is people that do both- how some people can bother to listen to hours day after day only to come in and only have one thing to say- "doesn't matter, jury is tampered with, they'll guilty no matter what" is a mystery to me.
 
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The real estate is less some conspiracy and more what @MugolEx said. For example, people were fleeing New York like crazy and literally seeing listings in Florida, just basically getting a facetime walkthrough, ten minutes later, sold.

Workforces no longer need to be stuck in city offices because companies spend less and are more productive with the telework system. This means more people can live outside of cities, and after the riots and shit, there's plenty more incentive. Banks and the faggots at BlackRock aren't some conspiracy, they are shitheads who like money. 2008 happened because banks got gullible retards, many of whom were minorities who didn't know better, to buy houses they would NEVER pay back. But the banks and shit got fast money and had them under their thumb. Get ready for that shit to happen again with stupid city slickers desperately fleeing their shitholes is what I say.
 
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Rei is shit said:
There has to be some strange shit afoot. I just looked at property in Illinois on Redfin. Some small communities have the oldest listing at 7-9 days. Other communities, some of the same size but most a bit larger, have listings months old. I can't see any rhyme or reason to it. So is homebuyer demand that crazy or do banks have something to do with it?

If its the banks you can bet some of those homes will go to brave POC who will diversify Americas small towns ;^)))))))))))))
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the US is in an insane seller's market right now. Building and renovating homes is at a near standstill for a variety of reasons mostly connected to COVID, iirc lumber itself being one of the major ones. Talk to any realtor in any even half-decent area and they'll tell you houses are selling for more than they list before they even go up, it's good

But that said, individual areas can go completely opposite. I doubt many people are planning on moving to Minneapolis rn, follow the threads for various communities and you can find why nobody would want to move there, but the 'oldest listing at 7-9 days' is the current trend of the market in general
 
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IIRC 2-3 said they have no opinion of chauvin, but they all swore they could set aside personal prior opinions to decide fairly, and there's reason enough to believe them, it happens every day and has happened plenty of times in similar trials before. mi amigo zimmerman didn't walk because the jury all thought he was a stellar cool dude to be around. Maybe enough has changed and the mob/media are so brazen in their intimidation they'll fall in line, but that's far from the only outcome.

I get ignoring it all and doomsaying, I get following the trial, only thing I really don't get is people that do both- how some people can bother to listen to hours day after day only to come in and only have one thing to say- "doesn't matter, jury is tampered with, they'll guilty no matter what" is a mystery to me.
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The issue is that it's a compounding of factors. A heavily ideologically biased (Though anyone saying ALL the jury is probably stretching a little) jury, alongside the fact they are very open to and have admitted to issues with being pressured due to the riots.

One or the other could be safely safeguarded against but both? All it takes is more than half of the jury to cave to either and pressure the other half and herd mentality kicks in.
 
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Gehenna said:
The issue is that it's a compounding of factors. A heavily ideologically biased (Though anyone saying ALL the jury is probably stretching a little) jury, alongside the fact they are very open to and have admitted to issues with being pressured due to the riots.

One or the other could be safely safeguarded against but both? All it takes is more than half of the jury to cave to either and pressure the other half and herd mentality kicks in.
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I don't agree on 'heavily ideologically biased' at all, though. We all heard them say their bits, it ranged from negative to neutral with the average somewhere around slightly negative (iirc that is what most said) and to be honest, as funny and based as it might be, I have serious doubts about anyone who said they had anything above a neutral opinion of chauvin.

It's easy and understandable to write everyone else off as being mindless sheeple, but I also think that so far there's little actual evidence for doing so. They all saw the video and none of them did much if anything more than that, but all that means is they (like literally everyone) have faggy mass media shoved in their face, not that they worship it. Like I said, I think there's plenty of reasons for a guilty verdict to come out, but an active act of bias is very unlikely. Subconscious interference I can understand, but not an active attempt to force a guilty on purely political grounds, and the giving way to pressure is also kinda unfounded given history and the juror's own answers. They said they had concerns but also said they could- and swore they would- set those aside, and convincingly enough to pass both judge and defense. Both might factor into the pressure on the individual jurors but it's a massive, unfounded thing to say they'll use both or either as an active measure to push for guilty
 
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Is it naive of me to assume that there are parts of the Twin Cities that are still going to be safe to live in, even with rioting going on? You know, the richer areas, even the more middle class areas and such.
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KiwiFuzz said:
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I'm wondering how many 98% white outlying communities are going to announce that there are zero houses or apartments available for certain displaced citizens.
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Late to follow up these posts, but I put this in the riot thread previously. I figure it fits here now.

Here's a map of the Twin Cities area and it's immediate periphery pulled from Zillow. The area in brown is the approximate area where the majority of the rioting and unrest has been isolated to. The red dots represent houses for sale priced at more than $500k. Take from that what you will.

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The north side of the cities has always been the relatively poorer half. Really, it's just going to keep driving people with higher incomes to the Southern half of the metro where more money appears to be, and leave the top to just rot on it's own burnt out carcass.
 
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MugolEx said:
It could be from people leaving big cities due to their fucked up state they are all in.
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Yes, this is definitely part of it. Incoming PL, the area I live in has been taken over rather quickly by inner city blacks. I moved out of Atlanta years ago to get away from thug culture embracing criminals and the retards who foster their ghetto lifestyle. Despite that, here I am once again living among some of the most blatant drug abusers who communicate by screaming and spend all of their government money on weed while their kids terrorize the neighborhood because parenting is for wypipo.

I've made more than a few trips to my local city hall over the past 2 years (for various reasons) and got heavily involved in local politics, and what I've learned is that it's not going to get better here. The elites don't care about Burn Loot Murder going into mom n' pop shop areas and setting anything flammable on fire because Orange Man Bad (or whatever it is that's oppressing them this week). I wanted to believe that things couldn't get worse, that if enough people cared things would get better, but I can't "fight the good fight" knowing that the people at the top don't give a single microscopic damn about what happens to the city as long as they can be comfy in their mansions... and then flee to another mansion if the torches show up at their gated community. This is also a situation where a lot of the blue collar workers are just waiting for the elites to get fed up and do something, and that waiting isn't helping.

Maybe the elites will eventually kick out the inner city scum and build a Whole Foods and other hipster shops, but that's not for a long time, if ever. I'm hoping to move back to my childhood hometown in bumfuck gun toting redneckville. I take no pleasure in uprooting my family, but the drugs and crime have flooded into my neighborhood and the cops won't do anything. I wish I could have planned on moving sooner, but it just wasn't doable. I hope that anyone in a similar situation can get out. Anyone who was dumb enough to foster the violence and destruction should stay behind and reap what they have sown.

To add more stress to the pile, the company I work for might go under. After the invasion my boss thought that DiVeRsItY hIrInG was a bold move, and now a bunch of lazy fat unqualified black women hold the reins. Life is great. (:_(

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If they live in a licensed open carry state they should embrace that. It's quite effective.
 
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