The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
  • Poll closed .
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YOU WON'T GET AWAY FROM ME GLOWIES!!!
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You also are missing one very big key aspect to it.

The Music Industry poisoned Black Popular Culture with "Gangsta Rap" which on it's own would only be a minor issue, but once you destroy the core family..where else is a kid going to get their culture from?
Yet we have scores of middle class mayo ghouls on this very internet web-site lamenting the early death of generic gangster rapper #53729 (aka DMX) who was robbing people to celebrate his fourteenth birthday, a massive drug fiend, involved in a Michael Vick style dogfighting ring and had been arrested countless times for various nefarious activities.
It‘s not just stupid black people that admire criminals who can speak rhyming words over a slightly more advanced version of a Casiotone backing beat. Retarded white people fall for it as well.
 
You realize you are posting in a thread about the trial for a racially charged police killing right?

whatever your view of the pure essence of the site is, this particular subject isnt premium hot goss
the lives and deaths of the American Negro is my absolute favourite thing to discuss with my girlfriends over tea.
so uhhh try again sweaty.
 
so how is it looking for the defense rn
Way too early to say. Most people seem to agree the prosecution missed a lot of easy wins and did some strange bits of damage to their own case, but they still put enough stuff (namely about floyd choking) that the defense can't just do nothing and be content enough doubt exists as is. Prosecution, though, probably didn't do enough for the 2nd degree (as that requires intentional use of force to cause injury, and they just didn't show that) but the homicide/3rd will take some addressing, which there's plenty to do. If they hammer home the drugs then I can see a decent chance of making it out

That said, it still rests with the jury, so it's all up in the air. With what we know of them and from past cases like this, it seems likely to me they have a bit of bias (conscious or subconscious) and are more or less hoping the prosecution will put up enough to let them vote guilty, but will still vote not guilty if they really think it. As is, there's fighting chances for both and I wouldn't put a bet on either- but it is worth considering that prosecution has done their worst and defense has barely started, and despite that it seems mostly even, so if defense is canny and well composed they might have a better chance.
 
That doesn't excuse trying to trying to build your own personal army.
Its very presumptuous of you to act as arbitrator of acceptable political discussion in this particular thread, especially with the flimsy justification that the forum is for gossiping about autistics.

It would be like some rotund lederhosen wearing german hanging around the beer hall interjecting in between hitlerian rants "excuse me this is hall for the eating of sausages and the drinking of schnapps"

Things change, unfortunately. Now you gotta hear about the juden while you suck down those brats.
 
Way too early to say. Most people seem to agree the prosecution missed a lot of easy wins and did some strange bits of damage to their own case, but they still put enough stuff (namely about floyd choking) that the defense can't just do nothing and be content enough doubt exists as is. Prosecution, though, probably didn't do enough for the 2nd degree (as that requires intentional use of force to cause injury, and they just didn't show that) but the homicide/3rd will take some addressing, which there's plenty to do. If they hammer home the drugs then I can see a decent chance of making it out

That said, it still rests with the jury, so it's all up in the air. With what we know of them and from past cases like this, it seems likely to me they have a bit of bias (conscious or subconscious) and are more or less hoping the prosecution will put up enough to let them vote guilty, but will still vote not guilty if they really think it. As is, there's fighting chances for both and I wouldn't put a bet on either- but it is worth considering that prosecution has done their worst and defense has barely started, and despite that it seems mostly even, so if defense is canny and well composed they might have a better chance.
Really, I think it’s pretty clear that reasonable doubt has been firmly established. For all of the laughable prosecution experts’ testimony the question needs to be asked.

Would a healthy, non-drug affected man have died if subjected to restraint as seen in the case (and literally thousands of other cases like it)?
Because if the answer is ‘yes’ then the MPD guidelines Chauvin didn’t breach are at fault.
And if the answer is ‘no’ then Floyd’s drugfucked brain and butter-stuffed heart were at fault.

What this whole thing comes down to is the jury’s opinion on the optics, and if there’s one thing that’s still in the prosecution’s favor, it’s the ability of stupid people to convict on the basis of emotional manipulation.
 
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The objection doesn't matter. It's already in the mind of the jurors.
This is essential in The Verdict: what happened is that a young girl was put into a coma because she vomited while under anesthesia. It turns out that she had eaten less than an hour prior to her surgery, and the admitting doctor knew and told the nurse to change the admittance sheet. The nurse came into testify and submit her evidence, but because it was a photocopy of the admission sheet, the judge told the jury to disregard it. Only they wouldn't.
 
Really, I think it’s pretty clear that reasonable doubt has been firmly established. For all of the laughable prosecution experts’ testimony the question needs to be asked.

Would a healthy, non-driug affected man have died if subjected to restraint as seen in the case (and literally thousands of other cases like it)?
Because if the answer is ‘yes’ then the MPD guidelines Chauvin didn’t breach are at fault.
And if the answer is ‘no’ then Floyd’s drugfucked brain and butter-stuffed heart were at fault.

What this whole thing comes down to is the jury’s opinion on the optics, and if there’s one thing that’s still in the prosecution’s favor, it’s the ability of stupid people to convict on the basis of emotional manipulation.
Imo the reasonable doubt was FIRMLY established to any reasonable human being around day 3 or 4(?) When they had the EMTs who showed up in the Ambalance to provide medical assistance to Floyd testify that they had to get Floyd in the Amabalance ASAP then drive several blocks away before they could start administering their full 100% care because they saw and felt the crowd that gathered was too unruly and possibly volatile to do it on scene.
That imo gave reasonable justification for why the cops on scene did not drop everything they were doing and start preforming CPR and shit.
If the EMTs felt the scene was too volatile, then why would the cops think any different?
 
It's both reassuring yet infinitely depressing how redpilled this place is.

There has to be a way to fight this. We need a leader, one with the balls to do what needs to be done and rally the people. The question is how can that be done in an era where everything is surveilled?
You don't need a leader. Just stop paying your parking tickets.
 
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Really, I think it’s pretty clear that reasonable doubt has been firmly established. For all of the laughable prosecution experts’ testimony the question needs to be asked.
I agree, but I don't think a jury will of yet see it that way. They got a presentation of facts (sloppy as it was) from the prosecution, if defense does their job and hammers home all the holes they can win, if not I can see it going guilty.
 
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