The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[Carbonation Grimace]

If there's a mistrial they'll just do it -again-

It's been stated multiple times that if it's declared a mistrial because of the prosecution dicking around, there can be no retrial.
If it is classified as a mistrial for other reasons, you are correct.

 

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Holy shit is this as big as I think it is?

It's not a big deal if the Judge goes lolno.

And as far as I know, the judge said "if you do this it's a mistrial." [prosecution does it] "So a mistrial then?" "lolno."

I don't know if this is a final lolno, or if the Judge could come back this afternoon or tomorrow and say "actually fuckit, the Prosecution is bullshit and gay and this is over." I also don't know if the Defense can appeal and force a mistrial on appeal over this?

 

[murdered meat bag]

Just saw a news report on channel 4. Still biased and even speaking the implied threats of BLM on air. Shame I live in a bubble where everyone knows flyd dindu nuffin and will justify the destruction of entire towns with “that’s how changes are made”.

sky had neutral commentary. he only added color for the breaks. today he said " judge cahill calling for a stretch break... whatever that means" .

 

[CharlesBarkley]

It's not a big deal if the Judge goes lolno.

And as far as I know, the judge said "if you do this it's a mistrial." [prosecution does it] "So a mistrial then?" "lolno."

I assume an appeal target gets painted by this, right? Don't know anything about law, but seems like a huge flaw if a guilty verdict gets reached.

 

[Special Agent Punchy]

I will SNEED so hard if this case gets mistrialed due to the prosecution being gay. Imagine how the media will be forced to acknowledge that their narrative was wrong.

They will never admit that they were wrong. The narrative will be that racist murdercop Derek Michael Chauvin got away with murder due to a technicality endemic to a corrupt justice system.
That said,

LET'S GOOO

 

[Carbonation Grimace]

It's not a big deal if the Judge goes lolno.

And as far as I know, the judge said "if you do this it's a mistrial." [prosecution does it] "So a mistrial then?" "lolno."

I don't know if this is a final lolno, or if the Judge could come back this afternoon or tomorrow and say "actually fuckit, the Prosecution is bullshit and gay and this is over." I also don't know if the Defense can appeal and force a mistrial on appeal over this?

The judge hasn't made a final decision one way or the other yet, has he?

 

[Łimønča]

sky had neutral commentary. he only added color for the breaks. today he said " judge cahill calling for a stretch break... whatever that means" .

A stretch break is just Judge Cahill stretching out some mad pussy yo.

 

[sperginity]

Tobin said something about an arterial blood draw that they did while Floyd was at “Hennefim County” which I assume is the Hennepin hospital. It isn’t obvious to me how that would be relevant to CO intake before the resuscitation efforts, though?
All the papers I’ve found that discuss asphyxia and artial blood O2 concentration are behind subscriptions.

arterial blood gas testing is extremely accurate and throws a wrench into the asphyxia narrative. I doubt that anyone who died of being unable to breath would recover to that extent, even with resuscitation efforts. It is almost always a lost cause to resuscitate someone who was without oxygen for several minutes, but of course there is a duty to try. If you can stabilize someone who was forcibly deprived of oxygen you generally end up with a brain dead or brain damaged patient and await the decision of the family or an advanced directive. but that didn't happen. He died anyway. He died despite the O2 levels being normalized, either organically or through intervention. That says something else was wrong.

I am starting to agree most with the expert that testified that so many conditions occurring at once makes it impossible to pinpoint a cause of death, some of the theories can be excluded but not everything. The drugs and pre-existing medical conditions make it too difficult to differentiate between remaining possible causes. The tumor floyd had secretes hormones associated with fight or flight reflexes, it may explain his habit of extreme nervousness, but it also complicates things even further since those hormones are damaging to the cardiovascular system when there is an excess of it long-term.

 

[Not Really Here]

I assume an appeal target gets painted by this, right? Don't know anything about law, but seems like a huge flaw if a guilty verdict gets reached.

New evidence presented to the jury after the defense rests that the defense can't rebut effectively?
Nah, no reason to appeal that, at all, in any way.

 

[DocMorbis]

So what is this Prosecution fuck up that could lead to a Mistrial?

 

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All I can say is a Prosecution Fuckup Mistrial causing Chauvin to walk would be the absolute best ending to this. It would cockblock both sides forever, and we'd immediately hit Chimpout Stage 3 if not 4 across the entire US.

DO it Judge. You've been overruling the Prosecutor this entire time, you HAVE to be tired of his shit. Call the Jury back in tomorrow and tell them their services are no longer required.

So what is this Prosecution fuck up that could lead to a Mistrial?

Prosecutor hid evidence from the defense. (Floyd's blood was 98% O2, which means he couldn't have been affected by Carbon Monoxide Poisoning, but also highly suggests he didn't choke to death.)

Defense fucked over one of their witnesses with a curveball (Carbon Monoxide), so suddenly they wanted to bring it up.

Judge said they couldn't, and if they did it would be a Mistrial.

5 minutes later, they did it anyway via the Potato Nigger "Expert" that suggested eating Cigarettes is a good thing for your health and a 90% clogged artery is just fucking DANDY for your heart.

 

[murdered meat bag]

So what is this Prosecution fuck up that could lead to a Mistrial?

talking about a last minute blood test the judge explicitly said would lead to a mistrial. it wasnt hidden, no one knew to look for it until yesterday after the CO testimony.

 

[DocMorbis]

All I can say is a Prosecution Fuckup Mistrial causing Chauvin to walk would be the absolute best ending to this. It would cockblock both sides forever, and we'd immediately hit Chimpout Stage 3 if not 4 across the entire US.

DO it Judge. You've been overruling the Prosecutor this entire time, you HAVE to be tired of his shit. Call the Jury back in tomorrow and tell them their services are no longer required.



Prosecutor hid evidence from the defense. (Floyd's blood was 98% O2, which means he couldn't have been affected by Carbon Monoxide Poisoning, but also highly suggests he didn't choke to death.)

Defense fucked over one of their witnesses with a curveball (Carbon Monoxide), so suddenly they wanted to bring it up.

Judge said they couldn't, and if they did it would be a Mistrial.

5 minutes later, they did it anyway via the Potato Nigger "Expert" that suggested eating Cigarettes is a good thing for your health and a 90% clogged artery is just fucking DANDY for your heart.

Well.... that should be grounds for a mistrial.

This case really is like Ace Attorney. With Manfred Von Karma over there hiding evidence and shit.

 

[The Nameless One]

arterial blood gas testing is extremely accurate and throws a wrench into the asphyxia narrative. I doubt that anyone who died of being unable to breath would recover to that extent, even with resuscitation efforts. It is almost always a lost cause to resuscitate someone who was without oxygen for several minutes, but of course there is a duty to try. If you can stabilize someone who was forcibly deprived of oxygen you generally end up with a brain dead or brain damaged patient and await the decision of the family or an advanced directive. but that didn't happen. He died anyway. He died despite the O2 levels being normalized, either organically or through intervention. That says something else was wrong.

I am starting to agree most with the expert that testified that so many conditions occurring at once makes it impossible to pinpoint a cause of death, some of the theories can be excluded but not everything. The drugs and pre-existing medical conditions make it too difficult to differentiate between remaining possible causes. The tumor floyd had secretes hormones associated with fight or flight reflexes, it may explain his habit of extreme nervousness, but it also complicates things even further since those hormones are damaging to the cardiovascular system when there is an excess of it long-term.

I just can't understand why the prosecution would bring this up if it torpedoes the asphyxia narrative, which was their strongest case. So, I assume they know something that isn't obvious to us. Without the asphyxia narrative, all they have left is, "well, maybe he did die of a drug overdose, but you should have been doing CPR," which would throw out both murder charges.

 

[Special Agent Punchy]

DO it Judge. You've been overruling the Prosecutor this entire time, you HAVE to be tired of his shit. Call the Jury back in tomorrow and tell them their services are no longer required.

Imagine the carnage if Udgey called a mistrial right then and there. That fortified courthouse would IMMEDIATELY be under siege.
Maybe that's why the direct and cross were so truncated? They all know it's over, but they can at least save their own skins.

 

[DumbDude42]

I'm a total layperson when it comes to trials, after closing next week how long do juries deliberate for? Do they have an indefinite amount of time or is there a deadline?

they deliberate until they agree on a verdict, or until they agree that they can't agree on a verdict, in which case the judge declares a mistrial and a new, separate trial is held with a new, separate jury.

 

[Ruin]

There's not going to bea fucking mistrial. You don't walk when the state wants your blood as badly as they want Chauvin's.

 

[TLEN]

Well.... that should be grounds for a mistrial.

Spoken like a true nazi. I can't even right now.

 

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Well.... that should be grounds for a mistrial.

It certainly seems that way, especially since the Judge specifically said so.

But it appears that the Judge refused, since he's sent everyone home for closing arguments on Monday. This was after meeting in chambers during/after that weird double break.

 

[wopirish]

Lets fucking go!
My money is on stage 3 but sustained for months now. There will be no buildings left in da hoodz.