The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[KiwiFuzz]

If there is a mistrial, then that just means we have to do this all over again, right? Would Nelson want to subject himself to that torment, or would it be a good idea because he would get a chance for a do-over while knowing exactly what tricks the prosecution will pull?

Nelson must feel like he's seeded the jury with reasonable doubt, and my thinking on this is due to the fact that he only called witnesses for what, two days? IIRC there were a bunch of people on Tuesday including the use-of-force expert and then Based Rhodesian was the only witness yesterday. I am surprised that he didn't call a midget cardiologist of his own, but maybe he felt like deep dicking the prosecution's guy on the cross was enough. And Nelson's power move was always going to be shitting up the prosecution's case and getting them to look like clowns playing whack-a-mole with shit like whether Squad 320 was running or not.

There are a lot of questions that I guess we will never get answers to. Did we ever get anyone to say whether Floyd pissed himself or not? Did anyone ever testify about whether Floyd busted his lip in the back of the car? What happened with the week-long hospital stay? But I guess if there's a mistrial or the case goes to appeal then Nelson's got some dry powder for that. Or maybe it's a 4D chess move where the jury is going to be sitting there thinking about all the loose strings (really, was that squad car running or not???) and they're going to pin the blame for a lot of that shit on the prosecution.

My overall impression is that Nelson came off as polite to the witnesses (even when they were beclowning themselves), tried to keep his questions straightforward and to the point, and didn't waste everyone's time. I think most importantly, he didn't try to come off like he was smarter (i.e. "better") than anyone on the stand. Yeah, he could drag it out for another week, but that might be counterproductive.

The prosecution, meanwhile, started off strong but spent a lot of their time for the last week and a half making appeals to emotion, using rhetorical tricks, objecting for the sake of objecting, being generally hostile to the witnesses, and going down bunny trails. For example, during yesterday's questioning of Based Rhodesian, the prosecution asked him if he was a pulmonologist and when he said no they asked him how much time he'd spent prior to the trial measuring potential lung volume of an airborne swallow carrying a coconut and all that shit and it's like.... why didn't you ask Felonious all that shit too 'cause you'd get the same answer. It was an attempt to make Based Rhodesian look stupid but it came off as gratuitous.

Chuck Rosenberg on MSNBC has said consistently throughout the trial that the prosecution needs to build their case brick-by-brick, so using the witnesses who were at the scene to introduce evidence worked very well for the prosecution at the outset. The foundation they created was pretty sturdy. They made the assembled crowd seem like a group of well-intentioned citizens who were justifiably upset at what appeared from their limited perspective to be a clear-cut case of police brutality. But then the prosecution got cocky, threw out the blueprints, and are now left with a structure three walls short of a brick shithouse.

Nelson, meanwhile, spent a quarter of the time digging a hole in the ground that's a perfectly good long-drop-cum-tiger-trap.

 

[Disheveled Human]

So I have not paid any attention to the trial for a couple weeks what is the unbiased take on will the cop get off or is he gonna get hung in the town square? Is it looking good for the cop or bad?

 

[murdered meat bag]

So I have not paid any attention to the trial for a couple weeks what is the unbiased take on will the cop get off or is he gonna get hung in the town square? Is it looking good for the cop or bad?

its a toss up.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

I could be totally off here, but there could be a difference between asphyxiating because there's not enough oxygen in your blood and asphyxiating because there's not enough oxygen going to your brain.

The former automatically means the latter, but the converse doesn't necessarily hold.

If the arteries to the brain were blocked, then you could have the one without the other, but the latter isn't called asphyxia, it would be the "blood choke" that the MMA guy was sperging about.

 

[Ruin]

He's going to get at least manslaughter. Acquitalfags and mistrialcels are delusional.

 

[TFT-A9]

A mistrial might actually be the worst possible outcome here.

The prosecution looks like a bunch of absolute fuckups, and there could well be extrajudicial bullshit carried out by angry people against the people involved.

Never mind that neither side is actually vindicated in any sense here, a mistrial potentially turns what was already a powder keg into a fucking nuclear bomb.

 

[Carbonation Grimace]

The amount of people in this thread seeking to be spoonfed readily available info is abysmal.

 

[mate]

So I have not paid any attention to the trial for a couple weeks what is the unbiased take on will the cop get off or is he gonna get hung in the town square? Is it looking good for the cop or bad?

There is no unbiased take.

 

[DeadFish]

For those who want to avoid the derails look up the word "break"

 

[Special Agent Punchy]

A mistrial might actually be the worst possible outcome here.

I think it bears repeating:

Mistrial is the funniest outcome, so this gamesmanship from the prosecution is an excellent sign.

 

[Wy4M]

Any idea what George Floyd's brother is eating recently?

 

[Niggernerd]

with the cop woman who shot a nig dead i can actually see a murder charge sticking. "i accidentally grabbed my gun instead of my tazer and didnt notice the difference" just sounds too retarded to me.

Well it was a woman

 

[Not Really Here]

> Argue throughout trial that defendant killed victim via asphyxiation.
>Last day of trial after defense rests bring up hidden data showing victim had so much oxygen in his blood he may have been high off it.

I love everything about this trial.

 

[Rykel22]

Anyone have the jury coming to blows during deliberation?

 

[TFT-A9]

Anyone have the jury coming to blows during deliberation?

I think a brawl in the room where the jury was deliberating is about the only way this could really get any more insane.

Watch me get proven wrong.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

So have we confirmed one way or another that we won't wake up tomorrow to a Mistrial announcement? Because it's not gonna happben but christ it'd be funny if it did.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

I have a feeling this will be a 12 Angry Men situation

1954

1997

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

So have we confirmed one way or another that we won't wake up tomorrow to a Mistrial announcement? Because it's not gonna happben but christ it'd be funny if it did.

The prosecution won't ask for a mistrial on their own error, and defense may try to get a not-guilty and then if they don't get it request a mistrial on appeal? I have no idea how this stuff works.

 

[CrippleThreat]

> Argue throughout trial that defendant killed victim via asphyxiation.
>Last day of trial after defense rests bring up hidden data showing victim had so much oxygen in his blood he may have been high off it.

I love everything about this trial.

Me too, amigo.

 

[Spooky Doot Skelly]

I feel like the 98% levels or whatever don't mean much in this case because of the ventilation he received on the way to the hospital. I tried looking at journal articles on asphyxiation's effects on oxygen levels in the blood, but I found nothing on levels after attempted resuscitation and whether or not it even matters.