Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Heres someone yelling at Dr. Fauci about freedom for 6 minutes while Fauci is shocked hes not being dick sucked and complains about it halfway through.

"Very low" is a very interesting NUMBER, Fauci. Seriously, how hard was it to say something along the lines of "We're estimating to reach that point when at least XX.XX% of Americans are vaccinated." If I didn't believe this guy was full of shit before I certainly would now.
 
This virus is gifted at mutation - simply gifted.
This is what happens when you coom too much over Corona-chan. Admit it, how deep is this gif burned in your retinas?
 

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I wonder how many people see this scamdemic as being such an artificial circus. First there's the announcement that there's this new disease and what it does, then the mandates of muzzles and "social distancing", and now there's the oh so conveniently timed vaccine.

Like others said, if it wasn't for the media and internet, you may have no idea this coronacrap is even happening. Compare this scamdemic to a real pandemic, where you know it's going on - sans media.
 
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True - some did. Most will/won't have such luck with their bodies and this virus. It is important for some people to understand the difference between vaccination and immunity. 5% of Africans are immune to Ebola and will never need a vaccine. The make-up of this virus we are dealing with now always presented a severe level of concern to scientists. Covid-19 and SARS 1 act very differently even though they are branched. A small change can make a virus a beast.

Eventually, versions of the virus are very likely to present in society that will mount a significant threat to youngsters and it will not only be the elderly or fat. I would be more concerned if we do not see this happen because it could mean the bodies of these youngsters may in fact be more likely to fall ill as they age and their immune systems fail to handle the variants.

This virus is gifted at mutation - simply gifted. It's like a Cummins engine - the framework, shell and technology around it may change over time, but the fundamental beautiful elegance of its main driver remains the same. The variants we've seen to date have arisen from a relatively small gene pool of potential hosts and there are many many more to come. Most will be good for us (less harmful and lethal) and some will be the opposite.

If we end up with a virus that has a mortality rate of 1-2% per year and keeps that up for any length of time (5-10 years), from constant variants - it technically represents a threat to us as a species although I'd expect them to have found by then a good vaccine or solution so I say this a little tongue in cheek knowing that in 50 years we won't see an near extinction level event, but also technically, it is possible if it keeps up with the lethal variations AND WE DO nothing - as some people think we should; it could reduce global population down to 500 Million in 30-40 years.

There have been numerous check ins on antibodies, and it seems most people keep them for at least 8 months, and checking in again we'll likely find them still there. If your body couldn't create antibodies that would last even a few months to a year a vaccine would be completely useless. Even in the case of the flu shot, it's not as if you are revaccinating against the same exact flu. Flu has a ridiculously high mutation rate and thousands of variants. You are basically collecting immunities and resistances with all the flu shots. A previous shot you had years back has been shown to give some resistance to a related strain when it reappears in a year.

T and B cells are a huge part of the immune system, and they are very long acting unless you are in full blown AIDS mode, and they can treat AIDS pretty reliably, so if you are it's probably your weird bug chasing fetish...

I've watched a lot of different doctors talk about coronaviruses and they've said they are actually fairly stable. They have some sort of self-correcting function. Yes, they still mutate... all things do, but not near the rate flu does. Most mutations are not helpful or even harmful, and increasing your lethality tends to be a negative trait for a virus to possess. There's a reason why ebola stays where it does. It's just too lethal and too virulent to spread far, yet colds and flus strive because they can accomplish their goals of reproducing in their host and have a constant supply of hosts to go into. It's the difference between being a rhino or being a rat. The rhino is almost extinct, hunted down for its most prominent feature. Rats are a nuisance that we try to push against, but will always be thriving in our society. We gave them the perfect breeding ground.

There's more of a chance of the vaccine increasing the virulence of covid than letting nature just do its thing until we could accomplish sterilizing immunity. Left alone, all previous studies on viruses suggests it would just melt back into the general cold/flu level illnesses. Now it has to work against a partial resistance in the people who got the shot. There was a chicken herpes that used to be a minor disease we put through the same selective pressure and in 40 years it was a lethal disease.

Basically, super covid would probably be our fault for using a cut-rate vaccine against it. If ivermectin does reduce the risk of death or hospitalization by 80% in the early days and even the inflammation days, it would be a better path to take. Hydroxy chloroquine worked in only the early days, but both are being suppressed because if you can treat covid, the emergency authorization would be invalidated and they would have to wait for approval. They would lose 4-9 years of profit versus a generic drug, so even if a bunch of plebs are permanently disabled by some side effect, they have that sweet pile of money to dry their humanitarian tears upon.
 
I wonder how many people see this scamdemic as being such an artificial circus. First there's the announcement that there's this new disease and what it does, then the mandates of muzzles and "social distancing", and now there's the oh so conveniently timed vaccine.

Like others said, if it wasn't for the media and internet, you may have no idea this coronacrap is even happening. Compare this scamdemic to a real epidemic, where you know it's going on - sans media.
A lot of people realise it's a scam. It's just that it's very difficult to communicate that to friends/family, and so this farce continues..
 
Heres someone yelling at Dr. Fauci about freedom for 6 minutes while Fauci is shocked hes not being dick sucked and complains about it halfway through.


Holy shit that was cathartic. Finally someone with the balls to confront that piece of shit head on in a place where he can't run.

"Very low" is a very interesting NUMBER, Fauci. Seriously, how hard was it to say something along the lines of "We're estimating to reach that point when at least XX.XX% of Americans are vaccinated." If I didn't believe this guy was full of shit before I certainly would now.

I love that Fauci is literally confused by the concept of personal freedoms. Like it's just automatic in his head that as long as there is a "pandemic" going on that it's "selfish" for people to want their freedoms.

I just wish someone would bring up that suicide and depression and poverty have skyrocketed to the point where people are dying more from them than COVID, but I guess that can't be officially "proven" yet. Someone literally asked "if that was my Final Solution" back when I was still stupid enough to post on Facebook.

Also, archive everything because they take down anything that makes the narrative look bad.

 
Covid vaccine breakthrough cases now with deaths!

Remember how people tried to say the covid vaccine would make the disease more mild even if it doesn't prevent it? Well, with 5800 breakthrough and 74 deaths, unless they were all in people over like, 70 or 75, it doesn't seem like that's the case.

The death rate fully vaccinated is 1.3% and the hospitalization is 7%

My personal risk is 0.05% death and 2% hospitalization. Now the vaccine is probably not making the unfortunate who suffer a break through die more, but it could be! I wonder what the ages of the cases were. Either way, this doesn't seem to be better than the average rate of death and hospitalization across all age ranges, so at the least, it doesn't do shit.

Actually, it reduces your risk of contracting covid if you were already taking precautions by 0.80%. We know this because the control group in the vaccine studies of 20000 only had 168 cases of covid, so living your life in these trying times protected you from covid 99.18% of the time. With the vaccine, only seven people got covid, wich brought the rate of avoidance up to 99.98%, but is that 0.80 of a percent worth experimental medication?

Not by my calculations.
 
Things are getting more concerning in Canada. ICU's in some of the bigger cities are at capacity; our retarded government has started opening up new field hospital "beds" without actually hiring enough ICU RN's to staff those beds.
When I was a kid, I had to get stitches in Canada. Because the hospital/clinic in the closest city was closed for the weekend, it was necessary to drive 40 minutes to the next largest city in the area and get treated at their hospital. From what I still remember, their ICU "ward" had 2-3 beds max (definitely less than 5). If it's still the case that Canadian hospitals have limited capacity for urgent care patients, even in bigger cities and facilities, there's goign to be a huge crunch in terms of the demand for both beds and staff.

In my state, we had a bit of the opposite happen last year. during the peak of the COVID panic, two large facilities were converted into overflow COVID treatment facilities. However, one was never used at all for that purpose and the other barely served over 100 patients at its peak when it had a capacity of over 1000. Both were decommissioned early due to under-utilization and the high monthly rent being charged for both locations.
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It looks like the article about it is hidden behind a paywall, but Michigan's Governor Whtimer was dismissive of the fact two of her staff members were recently seen on social media vacationing outside the state after Michigan residents had been told by those same officials to avoid unnecessary travel out of the state.

If Whitmer is going to tell people that she can't and won't control what her staff does so long as they take precautions on their own, she's going to find herself with a state full of constituents that will do what they want and cite her own IDGAF attitude when it comes to what state officials do and how well they obey their own directives.

She also bounced and squeaked on the radio today about how she lost some of her authority when the state Supreme Court declared one of the laws she relied on unconstitutional some time ago and that the lawsuits being filed against her and other state departments/agencies have also taken a toll.

So much for leadership 🤷‍♂️ *sigh*.
 
in my neck of the woods, people are getting pissed with the government's failings and inconsistent enforcement of the "standard operating procedure" or whatever the fuck they're calling it now, with a twitter hashtag to boot
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strangely enough, there's not much news or even mention of people minecrafting themselves because of this bullshit

i wonder...
 
They're perfectly ok with leaving these people to get suffocated and boiled in fucking lava, I think it's clear they don't give a solitary fuck about their safety. I'm shocked I haven't heard more people commenting on it. This is one of the most absurd and appalling things I've seen yet, and that is saying something. I just have to say it again because I can't believe I'm saying it: There are people who are being forced to take a highly questionable "vaccine" in its experimental phase, because their only alternative is to very possibly be killed by an active volcano. It's way beyond old hat to compare stuff to Nazis I know, but I'm sure they would have applauded this as a very good dirty trick to fuck with the vulnerable just cause you can.
"Yeah but you can't spread hot volcanic ash to others" - Doomers

True - some did. Most will/won't have such luck with their bodies and this virus. It is important for some people to understand the difference between vaccination and immunity. 5% of Africans are immune to Ebola and will never need a vaccine. The make-up of this virus we are dealing with now always presented a severe level of concern to scientists. Covid-19 and SARS 1 act very differently even though they are branched. A small change can make a virus a beast.

Eventually, versions of the virus are very likely to present in society that will mount a significant threat to youngsters and it will not only be the elderly or fat. I would be more concerned if we do not see this happen because it could mean the bodies of these youngsters may in fact be more likely to fall ill as they age and their immune systems fail to handle the variants.

This virus is gifted at mutation - simply gifted. It's like a Cummins engine - the framework, shell and technology around it may change over time, but the fundamental beautiful elegance of its main driver remains the same. The variants we've seen to date have arisen from a relatively small gene pool of potential hosts and there are many many more to come. Most will be good for us (less harmful and lethal) and some will be the opposite.
"The virus is excellent at mutation so let's fight a losing battle and continue with this clown show insanity indefinitely"

Fight a losing battle against evolution to pwn the science-deniers!
If we end up with a virus that has a mortality rate of 1-2% per year and keeps that up for any length of time (5-10 years), from constant variants - it technically represents a threat to us as a species although I'd expect them to have found by then a good vaccine or solution so I say this a little tongue in cheek knowing that in 50 years we won't see an near extinction level event, but also technically, it is possible if it keeps up with the lethal variations AND WE DO nothing - as some people think we should; it could reduce global population down to 500 Million in 30-40 years.
Your math is retarded and wrong.

Assuming that 1-2% fatality rate you pulled out your ass affected reproductively important demographics (pregnant women, fertile adults) it still wouldn't be enough to drop the annual # of babies born below 100mil per year.

Its also doubly retarded because doing nothing would give a leg up to the more transmissible but less lethal variants.

Edit: I also realized that we just caught a wild d00mer floating the idea that COVID is actually an extinction-level threat!
I love that Fauci is literally confused by the concept of personal freedoms. Like it's just automatic in his head that as long as there is a "pandemic" going on that it's "selfish" for people to want their freedoms.
This, kids, is why we don't trust people who think we live in a society.
 
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Your math is retarded and wrong.

Assuming that 1-2% fatality rate you pulled out your ass affected reproductively important demographics (pregnant women, fertile adults) it still wouldn't be enough to drop the annual # of babies born below 100mil per year.

Its also doubly retarded because doing nothing would give a leg up to the more transmissible but less lethal variants.
You also have to factor in that the 550K number is fake because they included people that would have died anyway but tested positive at the autopsy.

Also, the fact that the median age of death is something like 75 is also a factor. If this virus was killing children, that would be a massive difference.
 
You also have to factor in that the 550K number is fake because they included people that would have died anyway but tested positive at the autopsy.

Also, the fact that the median age of death is something like 75 is also a factor. If this virus was killing children, that would be a massive difference.
Yeah I was basically running quick math and assuming his rear-end-retrieved 2% number was basically hitting young couples for maximum effect (which is more devastating than causing a miscarriage/murking infants because a dead couple can't try again next year), and that number still isn't enough to really dent the human population.

I mean fuck, real diseases like Smallpox, Typhoid and the mother-fucking Bubonic Plague couldn't wipe out humanity; but sure some mega COVID mutation is going to level up its lethality after enough kills and its totally going to knock out 94% of the human population.
 
If we end up with a virus that has a mortality rate of 1-2% per year and keeps that up for any length of time (5-10 years), from constant variants - it technically represents a threat to us as a species although I'd expect them to have found by then a good vaccine or solution so I say this a little tongue in cheek knowing that in 50 years we won't see an near extinction level event, but also technically, it is possible if it keeps up with the lethal variations AND WE DO nothing - as some people think we should; it could reduce global population down to 500 Million in 30-40 years.
Holy shit, that's some bad statistics. I mean you do know that well into the 20th century there were all sorts of nasty illnesses going around that dropped children and the elderly like flies and left survivors with shit like reduced lung capacity, permanent brain damage, sterility, etc? 1-2% a year is after the worst shit like smallpox had regularly used vaccines against it, doctors started doing shit like washing their hands and tools before operating on patients, and cities realized they might need to do something about all that stagnant water and human waste.

Yet somehow we still hit 2 billion people by 1927, and that's with almost 15 years of massive fucking wars, famine, and yes, plagues including Spanish flu and all sorts of other nasty shit all over Europe, Asia, Africa (10% of Africans died in World War I because colonial nations systemically looted food to feed themselves), and parts of Latin America. We hit 1 billion people around 1800 right in the middle of yep, another global war where we had barely any idea what vaccines were and how they worked and common medical knowledge in many parts of the world was hacking people open with dirty tools and letting them bleed.

You seriously overestimate how dangerous this is.
 
Holy shit, that's some bad statistics. I mean you do know that well into the 20th century there were all sorts of nasty illnesses going around that dropped children and the elderly like flies and left survivors with shit like reduced lung capacity, permanent brain damage, sterility, etc? 1-2% a year is after the worst shit like smallpox had regularly used vaccines against it, doctors started doing shit like washing their hands and tools before operating on patients, and cities realized they might need to do something about all that stagnant water and human waste.

Yet somehow we still hit 2 billion people by 1927, and that's with almost 15 years of massive fucking wars, famine, and yes, plagues including Spanish flu and all sorts of other nasty shit all over Europe, Asia, Africa (10% of Africans died in World War I because colonial nations systemically looted food to feed themselves), and parts of Latin America. We hit 1 billion people around 1800 right in the middle of yep, another global war where we had barely any idea what vaccines were and how they worked and common medical knowledge in many parts of the world was hacking people open with dirty tools and letting them bleed.

You seriously overestimate how dangerous this is.
Also, and it's going to be hard to tell just how much birthrates were affected in the last year, but I'm pretty sure the US still had a net increase in population in 2020.

In 2019, it was estimated that 3.7M were born and 2.8M died, so a net increase of 900K. In 2020, it's estimated about 3.1M-3.2M died, so unless there was a massive dropoff in birthrates, America probably still gained people.

Insert easy joke about Biden growing the population with South American illegals in 2021 here.

 
Holy shit, that's some bad statistics. I mean you do know that well into the 20th century there were all sorts of nasty illnesses going around that dropped children and the elderly like flies and left survivors with shit like reduced lung capacity, permanent brain damage, sterility, etc? 1-2% a year is after the worst shit like smallpox had regularly used vaccines against it, doctors started doing shit like washing their hands and tools before operating on patients, and cities realized they might need to do something about all that stagnant water and human waste.

Yet somehow we still hit 2 billion people by 1927, and that's with almost 15 years of massive fucking wars, famine, and yes, plagues including Spanish flu and all sorts of other nasty shit all over Europe, Asia, Africa (10% of Africans died in World War I because colonial nations systemically looted food to feed themselves), and parts of Latin America. We hit 1 billion people around 1800 right in the middle of yep, another global war where we had barely any idea what vaccines were and how they worked and common medical knowledge in many parts of the world was hacking people open with dirty tools and letting them bleed.

You seriously overestimate how dangerous this is.
1-2% is also the number he pulled out his ass, so keep that in mind.
 
In 2019, it was estimated that 3.7M were born and 2.8M died, so a net increase of 900K. In 2020, it's estimated about 3.1M-3.2M died, so unless there was a massive dropoff in birthrates, America probably still gained people.
The pandemic actually did depress the birthrate, but economic uncertainty and putting millions upon millions of people under house arrest tends to do that.
 
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