The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[mr.moon1488]

At this point, I wouldn't be opposed to it. Can we just split the country in 4 sections?

1) White Ethnostate, so those idiots can go over there
2) Black Ethnostate, so they are no longer "oppressed" and can run it anyway they want.
3) Liberal Hugbox Socialist Land, so they can run that shit into the ground and we can laugh at them.
4) Normal America, where I will be where we just run everything normal like and the government leaves us alone as much as possible.

>1) White Ethnostate, so those idiots can go over there
>4) Normal America, where I will be where we just run everything normal like and the government leaves us alone as much as possible.
Lol that would be fine with me, just don't expect to come to number 1, when number 4 becomes another civnat shithole.

 

[brap_connoiseur_420]

If the verdict is coming at 1 pm, he's guilty of all charges. There's zero chance they agree to Innocent this early, and a jury can't be hung in less than 24 hours.

Bros, it's time to admit we were the ones coping all along...it's over chauvinchads...

 

[Stoneheart]

Female, Black, Older. Being a grandmother is worrying, The focus on being black as an identifier is worrying. Just all around worrying. Pro-Guilty.

The statement about helping kids with homework should move her to toss up. she also sound well off.

 

[Gehenna]

The statement about helping kids with homework should move her to toss up. she also sound well off.

I only moved out of tossup if I had at least one strong reason to think they'd vote one way or another. While she had some moderate notes, there was nothing I could point to strongly.

 

[MuuMuu Bunnylips]

I'd make life-changing decisions based on bibliomancy before I trust a single word that comes out of Posobiec's mouth.

Well, he's not wrong: the judge actually said pretty much that.

 

[LemmeSee]

If the verdict is coming at 1 pm, he's not guilty of all charges. There's zero chance they agree to Guilty this early, and a jury can't be hung in less than 24 hours.

 

[Terminally Online]

I don't know why anyone cares. Even if he gets convicted, the judge himself said so many people had fucked things up for him that he was almost guaranteed to get it overturned on appeal.

Dude, it's barely been 18 hours, and the farms is already doing that shit where they twist facts to make their own views more credible.

It wasn't "so many people". It was literally one person, Maxine Waters, that the judge was critical of.

Is there going to be a live stream today?

A live stream of what? Court session is over, and we can't watch jury deliberations. Yesterday's feed was just protest streams for the last couple hours before they cut it.

 

[Not Really Here]

Or the idiots on the other side who are apparently completely okay with politicians ordering their followers to riot if the jury doesn't vote their way. Does that strike you as fucking normal behavior? Do you realize how fucking idiotic and counterproductive it was to do that? Do you realize it virtually guarantees more riots, either now or when the case gets overturned because of this stupidity? Do you care how reckless and irresponsible it is for one branch of government to use threats of violence to control another?

Bro, it's just cope that people have been confused as fuck that the jury wasn't sequestered from the start with a year of riots nationwide already behind us.
It's even more cope that people have been questioning why the fuck a change of venue wasn't granted long ago.
It's more cope that people are questioning why the judge didn't clarify what the Legal Doctrine Of Causation required of the parties in this set of circumstances.
Maybe I'm just a little tired of the state fucking this up at every level, and causing billions in damage mostly to poor minority communities.

 

[Salubrious]

If the verdict is coming at 1 pm, he's not guilty of all charges. There's zero chance they agree to Guilty this early, and a jury can't be hung in less than 24 hours.

I see what you did there.

I will politely agree to disagree with you.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

I personally do not expect the riots to be as bad this go around, even if he gets off on anything. Maybe a night or two at about the previous chimp out level, but now the unrest is inconvenient to the powers that be. People aren't going to be catch and released ready for the next night. I don't think they are going to prosecute rioters hard, but I do think they are going to keep them locked up longer and really scare the shit out of them about doing hard time, and they'll peter out a lot quicker when people are afraid of consequences.

Edit: I just realized, y'all niggers can't Rainbow me, will then just know that I love you too.

The National Guard just got hit with a drive by. This is already worse than Floyd's death by a mile. People are nuts.

 

[AnOminous]

Male, White, Young. Generally, anyone who claims they are logical is not. The All Lives Matter rhetoric means he is either a well-palced troll from the left or legitimately not indoctrinated.

He said "all lives matter," though, which means he basically jumped up, threw a Roman salute, and shouted "Heil Hitler!"

 

[MugolEx]

Picking up from my prior post on this, and using the article linked, let's take a bit closer look at our jury.

Spoiler: Very Long Look

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Male, White, Young. Generally, anyone who claims they are logical is not. The All Lives Matter rhetoric means he is either a well-palced troll from the left or legitimately not indoctrinated. While he has visited the spot,. it was for unrelated reasons. I have both good and bad signs from him so he remains in the tossup category.



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Female, Mixed, Young. All bad signs, I will assume "mixed" means "Half black" as it is the position least likely to be favorable to Chauvin. The "national input" angle is a bad one especially if there is reason to think she has a bias. Which we have in spades. Stays in the Pro-Guilty category and is likely the strongest detractor to Chauvin.


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Male, White, Mid-Aged. Good signs all around for a Pro-Acquittal stance. Some pre bias, but is willing to set that aside allegedly. Notably works as an auditor, which means he stands to make money if things burn and a lot of properties go up for sale. Pro-Acquittal, but weakly.


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Male, Black, Mid-Aged. Male is good, but their blackness is worth noting as being foreign. Additionally, he is well off, raised in a red state (And likely NOT Somalian since he moved to Minnesota). The addition of French as a language makes me think from one of the French colonies which tend to be VERY anti-ghetto black. Well-paying job area, nuclear family, is doing this out of civic duty. VERY pro-acquittal given the evidence provided to him.


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Female, White, Older. Two good signs there, wealthier and works for a living. The lawyer sounds like she knows this will be fucked and is readying her own defense. She has a few red flags in her responses, but overall I am moving her from Pro-Guilty to Tossup.


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Male, Black, Mid-Aged. STRONGLY Pro-Acquittal. Wealthy blacks hate Ghetto blacks AND he has expressed Pro-Chauvin views. Has some of the stock discrimination views, but his background is a big open goal for the defense.


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Female, White, Older. Lives outside Minneapolis and thus less susceptible to fear. Mostly good statistics. Works in healthcare and likely to better understand how fucked FLoyd's health was. Good statements. Pro-Aquittal.


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Male, Black, Mid-Aged. That burglary history is gooood for the defense. And it definitely sounds like he is a wealthier black. Means a good bias against Ghetto Blacks AND Goloyd's history will rub him wrong. Pro Police too. Moving him from Tossup to Pro-Aquittal.


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Female, Mixed, Mid-Aged. Bad demographics all around. Good responses, but something about her history rubs me wrong. Tentative Tossup.


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Female, White, Older. Nurse is good, likely to spot the issues. The judge can say all he wants about being an expert witness, but she will hold a LOT of sway with the other jurors. Being older makes her less likely to be an issue AND she is from out of Minneapolis proper. I had her as tossup, but moving her to Pro-Aquittal.


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Female, Black, Older. Being a grandmother is worrying, The focus on being black as an identifier is worrying. Just all around worrying. Pro-Guilty.


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Female, White, Mid-aged. Works in insurance, which means she has a financial stake in watching the city burn. Her answers though are worrying and so she remains in the Pro-Guilty camp.



So we have two tossups moving to Pro-Acquittal with one Pro-Guilty moving to Tossup. Honestly, this jury... isn't half bad. It's 6 - 3 -3 Acquittal - Tossup - Guilty.

Nice break down and all but I still think its going to be manslaughter. If the Jury is acting logically, they will not pick the worst outcome for themselves. An acquittal will get them death and Murder will make it obvious they had a bias. Manslaughter is a good middle ground for them not to get targeted during the revolution that is about to happen.

 

[Jarolleon]

Reminder that a brave regiment from Minnesota held the line at Gettysburg.

I wonder how many of feel now that their ancestors are all soycucks burning down all their hard work for niggers.

They'd be horrified at what the moralism of their Yankee brethren had mutated into (assuming they were shown the rhetoric that lead to this shit), and likely wish that the South had won.

Or they would cheer on the rioters because the wealth of a modern city to 19th century eyes would look like an impossible level of opulence, only achievable in their minds by wicked means. These were the same people who sang the praises of literal terrorist John Brown who died trying to turn Virginia into Haiti 2.0 after all.

 

[Gehenna]

He said "all lives matter," though, which means he basically jumped up, threw a Roman salute, and shouted "Heil Hitler!"

I cannot shake the feeling it might be a lefty who thinks he's being cute and that by saying he he will ensure he gets on the jury so he can vote how he wants.


Paranoid? Yes. But Analysis tends to assume weird possibilities and it fits too well with a few patterns I have seen to not dismiss it offhand.

 

[DumbDude42]

What they should have done is just immediately take him to the station and get away from the mob. What really set it off was hanging around unnecessarily at the scene just because he was chimping out and yelling for minutes straight about how he couldn't sneed when he obviously could.

They'd probably be closer to medical services at the station, too, and without a mob of retards obstructing the EMTs.

or just drive him straight to the emergency room using the police car. could probably have gotten him there even faster than the EMTs could have gotten to the sceene

 

[Stoneheart]

I only moved out of tossup if I had at least one strong reason to think they'd vote one way or another. While she had some moderate notes, there was nothing I could point to strongly.

you have her as pro guilty.
She is older and does something real for her community. I doubt she is a fan of heavy drug users....

 

[Gehenna]

Nice break down and all but I still think its going to be manslaughter. If the Jury is acting logically, they will not pick the worst outcome for themselves. An acquittal will get them death and Murder will make it obvious they had a bias. Manslaughter is a good middle ground for them not to get targeted during the revolution that is about to happen.

Perhaps not, I did a bit more thorough of a look at our jury and.,.. it actually leans Pro-Aquittal.

Edit: Though that assumes they vote by what their backgrounds indicate and not due to "oh shit everything I love is going to burn".

I already acknowledged this.

 

[AnOminous]

It wasn't "so many people". It was literally one person, Maxine Waters, that the judge was critical of.

He's been highly critical of the prosecution as well.

 

[MuuMuu Bunnylips]

Dude, it's barely been 18 hours, and the farms is already doing that shit where they twist facts to make their own views more credible.

It wasn't "so many people". It was literally one person, Maxine Waters, that the judge was critical of.


A live stream of what? Court session is over, and we can't watch jury deliberations. Yesterday's feed was just protest streams for the last couple hours before they cut it.

He wasn't particularly happy with the prosecution cunting around, either.

Y'know, the guy who's job it is to get him put in prison?

 

[Stoneheart]

He's been highly critical of the prosecution as well.

well they acted like total mongoloids...