Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

[GenociderSyo]

Shes in speech? What exactly is being done for speech, she cant even talk? It seems like a waste of time and resources to me and her time better spent doing things thatll actually benefit her.

Speech therapy is also used to feeding therapies. She seems to be trying to make Luna eat orally instead of via G-Tube.

 

[Vi0l3t]

Speech therapy is also used to feeding therapies. She seems to be trying to make Luna eat orally instead of via G-Tube.

Reminds me so much of the Hartley's, useless stuff to their kids that really does nothing for them. I guess if it helps her eat a bit and at least enjoy that it makes it a little better.

 

[GenociderSyo]

 

[Pippeyy]

You can't tell me that a deformed neck/upper torso like this isn't painful.



Gaining weight rapidly seems to be a double edged sword. Isn't there anything Mama Narcissist could use to lessen this from happening? How can anyone pretend she's recovering?

 

[GenociderSyo]

Update:
She's on a roll tonight:

 

[Johnl260589]

Shit man! I wasn’t following Robyn so when she went private, I could no longer see Luna so this site is fucking amazing! lmao I don’t fucking know why, but these tard kids with delusional, (often) religious families is my guilty pleasure! I guess I’m kind of just waiting for them to to die and that’s what makes it the guiltiest of all lmao

It’s funny, because I was lurking on her IG for quite some time lol and I was like “wow! I can’t believe this little girl has been saved and look at the strides she’s making... Shame on those doctors her turned this family down!!” Bahaha until I was like wait... all those doctors refused because they knew this kid was either doomed to death or a life of full on retardation lol what a waste of resources and money to keep a kid like that alive. It’s gross those mothers that keep a pregnancy going even though the prognosis is horrid lol The “lord’s purpose!”well If that’s so, I think it was to get a laugh with all his buddies lmao

It’s funny, because I was lurking on her IG for quite some time lol and I was like was like “wow! I can’t believe this little girl has been saved and look at the strides she’s making... until I was like wait... all those doctors refused because they knew this kid was either doomed to death or full on retardation lol what a waste of resources and money to keep a kid like that alive. It’s gross those mothers that keep a pregnancy going even though the prognosis is horrid lol The “lord’s purpose!”well If that’s so, I think it was to get a laugh with all his buddies lmao

Also, really gross that Robyn knowingly damaged her daughters brain permanently, and then further kept the kid “alive”

 

[FluffyCat9000]

The comparison between these two on video I think is more damaging to Robyn's cause than she realises. In isolation, you can maybe try to assign meaningful interaction and movements with Luna receiving therapy and oral food.

It's only when you compare a healthy baby next to her that the horror is really highlighted. She doesn't move her limbs compared to Atlas active kicking, her eyes are randomly roving Vs his beginning to track movement. Her limbs being in decorticate(?) Positioning that Syo has pointed out before is also so much more obvious. Her feet are obviously extremely twisted out of normal position and it's likely her tendons are very tight from lack of use / muscles are poor tone from not supporting herself which of course worsens the foot drop

It's just incredibly tragic that this little girl is 2 years old and should be toddling around exploring the world instead of being so catastrophically disabled. Her 2 month old brother shows more progress and life than she has in the last year.

 

[New & Improved Username]

If she wasn't such a horrible cunt she'd be devastated at the contrast and filled with remorse over not knowing Luna was not a normal baby until she was near death.

Question: If Luna had been brought to a doctor asap after the woo home birth could the damage have been mitigated? I know she'd still be fucked up but was there any chance (malnutrition aside, just about the brain damage)?

 

[GenociderSyo]

Question: If Luna had been brought to a doctor asap after the woo home birth could the damage have been mitigated? I know she'd still be fucked up but was there any chance (malnutrition aside, just about the brain damage)?

Not really the disorder pretty much was due to how long the labor lasted and how long she was in fetal distress. They mentioned she was born with the cord around her neck after over 3 days of labor. It is the unregulated instagram midwive homebirth she decided to do and considiering she did the same for Atlas its amazing he is fine.

 

[FluffyCat9000]

If she wasn't such a horrible cunt she'd be devastated at the contrast and filled with remorse over not knowing Luna was not a normal baby until she was near death.

Question: If Luna had been brought to a doctor asap after the woo home birth could the damage have been mitigated? I know she'd still be fucked up but was there any chance (malnutrition aside, just about the brain damage)?

Not a doctor but

My answer would be no. From her own birth story blog post, Robyn was in active labour for about 72 hours. It's very likely that Luna sustained all her disability from anoxia / lack of oxygen during this extended labour.

Any trained birth professional would have called for an emergency ambulance after the 24 hour mark where it was clear that Luna was "stuck" in the birth canal. I'm not an expert but once the labour stàrts it's a race against time where the baby no longer gets all her oxygen from the mother and can face compression and distress from being squeezed through the birth canal. All of these risks are well known and why home births should always be open to the possibility that when shit hits the fan call an ambulance.


There's some theory that yes she was already having swallowing issues and likely not getting full nutrition from breast milk even before her condition was diagnosed. But the actual cause of her brain damage was sustained by being trapped in the birth canal for hours while her mom refused to go to a hospital.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Not really the disorder pretty much was due to how long the labor lasted and how long she was in fetal distress. They mentioned she was born with the cord around her neck after over 3 days of labor. It is the unregulated instagram midwive homebirth she decided to do and considiering she did the same for Atlas its amazing he is fine.

Right, it was everything that happen during labor that fucked up Luna. She was deprived of oxygen during labor or birth which caused her condition.

It’s the weird thing about home birth. It’s true that birth is a natural process and if it goes smoothly a woman could give birth alone in the woods and be fine. But the problem is that while birth is natural, human birth is also dangerous and shit can go wrong quickly and can be catastrophic. Our big brains and walking upright was a bad evolutionary step for the birth process.

Women had all natural home births for most of human history and that’s why losing a baby or mother during child birth was a horrifically common occurrence.

 

[Pippeyy]

Shit man! I wasn’t following Robyn so when she went private, I could no longer see Luna so this site is fucking amazing! lmao I don’t fucking know why, but these tard kids with delusional, (often) religious families is my guilty pleasure! I guess I’m kind of just waiting for them to to die and that’s what makes it the guiltiest of all lmao

It’s funny, because I was lurking on her IG for quite some time lol and I was like “wow! I can’t believe this little girl has been saved and look at the strides she’s making... Shame on those doctors her turned this family down!!” Bahaha until I was like wait... all those doctors refused because they knew this kid was either doomed to death or a life of full on retardation lol what a waste of resources and money to keep a kid like that alive. It’s gross those mothers that keep a pregnancy going even though the prognosis is horrid lol The “lord’s purpose!”well If that’s so, I think it was to get a laugh with all his buddies lmao


Also, really gross that Robyn knowingly damaged her daughters brain permanently, and then further kept the kid “alive”

Welcome new person, don't do this. Rules and whatnot.

 

[Johnl260589]

Welcome new person, don't do this. Rules and whatnot.

Oh shhhit thanks for the heads up! Sorry everyone

 

[PeckingOrder]

Oh man, I watched one of the videos, the contrast between the children is harrowing. Atlas (who is finally getting cuter, apologies to the little guy) is shaping up to be a perfectly normal baby, kicking and wiggling and cooing and looking around. Meanwhile Luna is just. Laying there motionless, seemingly staring into space. But we know she doesn’t because she has cysts for brains. Her feet and arms are so uncomfortable to look at too.

I’m sorry to be mad on the internet but how does this awful woman look at her children, see how sentient her son is compared to her poor daughter and think this is fine and normal?

 

[Vi0l3t]

Right, it was everything that happen during labor that fucked up Luna. She was deprived of oxygen during labor or birth which caused her condition.

It’s the weird thing about home birth. It’s true that birth is a natural process and if it goes smoothly a woman could give birth alone in the woods and be fine. But the problem is that while birth is natural, human birth is also dangerous and shit can go wrong quickly and can be catastrophic. Our big brains and walking upright was a bad evolutionary step for the birth process.

Women had all natural home births for most of human history and that’s why losing a baby or mother during child birth was a horrifically common occurrence.

Exactly, it always makes me roll my eyes when these woo moms act like almost everyone should be able to do natural birth and the evil doctors just want money. They have no idea how wrong and fucked birth can get, how many moms and babies died or were permanently disabled. Every person I know whom has a c section 100% needed it. If she just went to the hospital and gave birth luna would probably be ok and that's the biggest tragedy she should be in charge of neglect

 

[Oribe_Parker]

Not a doctor but

My answer would be no. From her own birth story blog post, Robyn was in active labour for about 72 hours. It's very likely that Luna sustained all her disability from anoxia / lack of oxygen during this extended labour.

Any trained birth professional would have called for an emergency ambulance after the 24 hour mark where it was clear that Luna was "stuck" in the birth canal. I'm not an expert but once the labour stàrts it's a race against time where the baby no longer gets all her oxygen from the mother and can face compression and distress from being squeezed through the birth canal. All of these risks are well known and why home births should always be open to the possibility that when shit hits the fan call an ambulance.


There's some theory that yes she was already having swallowing issues and likely not getting full nutrition from breast milk even before her condition was diagnosed. But the actual cause of her brain damage was sustained by being trapped in the birth canal for hours while her mom refused to go to a hospital.

I never comment bc it makes me feel too horrible BUT ....
If you read her (now deleted) blog, its somewhere in the first pages of this forum there were two birth doulas. the 1st birth doula was with her for two days and TRIED to get robyn to let her intervene, go to the hospital and have luna seen immediately after birth. Robyns whole tirade is against the 1st woman who basically "filled her head with doubt that she could do this" ON THE SECOND DAY. she had to convince robyn to let her feel if Lunas head was breeched, which is wasn't and her "shoving her hands inside me" made her feel "violated" and robyn explicitly says she "HATED" her after she checked for luna. literally uses the word "hated."

then the second one came who she considers an angel to relieve the first one. before the 1st one left they discussed that considering she was going on day three of labor ... it was probablyyyyyyyyy... in mom and babies best interest to get over to this hospital. this made robyn mad bc it filled her head with doubt of her own capabilities.

at some point with the 2nd doula robyn thinks she should go to the hospital but is gratefully talked out of it by the 2nd doula and her husband. and she is sOOooOooOOooo grateful that they believed in her. when the 1st doula, I forget either called or came back once luna was born she tried to pressure robyn to get her checked at the hospital where early intervention COULD HAVE BEEN VISIBLE.

she also notes that luna was NOT latching in her first few days or weeks of birth which is what they assumed was making her underweight. instead of giving her a fucking bottle of formula they gave her nothing until she was basically hungry enough to latch. she was clearly under weight, and STILL didnt take her to be seen.

can you imagine being the first doula, basically know that there is an ill fated out come, begging the mom to go to the hospital, for this to all happen, only despite Robyns own protests and now shes considered suing them??????????? (she doesnt have a chance in hell of winning against the doulas or Lunas doctors. medical science didnt miss something she refused intervention at literally every single turn.) she feels she was violated and they didnt follow her plan and not because luna wasn't facing correctly, or robyn didnt get one fucking scan where they would have seen the cord.. BUT.. by basically stressing robyn out by suggesting she not be a feral fucking alley cat (who instinctually actually knows more than she does), suggested they get her to a hospital and the stress imposed by the 1st doula DOING HER JOB is what made this traumatic and caused this? that she has posted blogs about how traumatic her birth was, by her own doing?

can you imagine being the 1st doula walking out of the house, knowing something is going to go terribly wrong and besides calling 911 (which is what I think most of us would have done but idk the legalities behind that) knowing that there is zero you can do. its like being a patrol cop with no power, telling a driver they suppose is drunk to slow down, but the driver knows they have no Breathalyzer test and cant give them a ticket, yelling F you and then crashing into a wall 10 feet later? like thats basically what happened.

with that being said... what the fuck do you guys want her to do? stick her in a box and put her under a bed? thats still her kid,. if she didnt at least try to give her a quality of life which she clearly is. whether or not things work is different but at least shes trying. America is a fucked country. if a child is too much for you to handle and you surrender your child, youre put in jail, you cant euthanize your kid, the hospital isn't going to hold on to luna forever, theyre going to keep sending her home, put her in some sort of home and forget she exists? she clearly is thriving shes getting bigger and fatter. what should she do? stop feeding her and just let her die? it doest work like that. like cut her a break. even something as fucking stupid as turkey sauce or whatever, at least it seems like the kid likes it. I dont know all the terms here or anything so im not trying to be "sunshine" or whatever the fuck it is but really... what do you expect them to do with her? I mean could she do better, maybe? but you cant get blood from a rock. and, for what its worth, the kid couldn't move her mouth a few months ago and now she can clearly take a little liquid food orally. also, bc of her condition like (I forget who explained it not he last page) right now, her neurological hand tightness might release and she might be able to grab a rattle and hit her mom with it. they dont know if she actually is able to hear or see.. shes doing a little more then she used to.


also its unfair robyn gets all the fucking blame. she has a husband who ENCOURAGED her to stay home instead of saying "fuck this, that baby is mine too im calling 911." or "shes wearing that helmet every day or else." theres two people there not just one.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

I never comment bc it makes me feel too horrible BUT ....
If you read her (now deleted) blog, its somewhere in the first pages of this forum there were two birth doulas. the 1st birth doula was with her for two days and TRIED to get robyn to let her intervene, go to the hospital and have luna seen immediately after birth. Robyns whole tirade is against the 1st woman who basically "filled her head with doubt that she could do this" ON THE SECOND DAY. she had to convince robyn to let her feel if Lunas head was breeched, which is wasn't and her "shoving her hands inside me" made her feel "violated" and robyn explicitly says she "HATED" her after she checked for luna. literally uses the word "hated."

then the second one came who she considers an angel to relieve the first one. before the 1st one left they discussed that considering she was going on day three of labor ... it was probablyyyyyyyyy... in mom and babies best interest to get over to this hospital. this made robyn mad bc it filled her head with doubt of her own capabilities.

at some point with the 2nd doula robyn thinks she should go to the hospital but is gratefully talked out of it by the 2nd doula and her husband. and she is sOOooOooOOooo grateful that they believed in her. when the 1st doula, I forget either called or came back once luna was born she tried to pressure robyn to get her checked at the hospital where early intervention COULD HAVE BEEN VISIBLE.

she also notes that luna was NOT latching in her first few days or weeks of birth which is what they assumed was making her underweight. instead of giving her a fucking bottle of formula they gave her nothing until she was basically hungry enough to latch. she was clearly under weight, and STILL didnt take her to be seen.

can you imagine being the first doula, basically know that there is an ill fated out come, begging the mom to go to the hospital, for this to all happen, only despite Robyns own protests and now shes considered suing them??????????? (she doesnt have a chance in hell of winning against the doulas or Lunas doctors. medical science didnt miss something she refused intervention at literally every single turn.) she feels she was violated and they didnt follow her plan and not because luna wasn't facing correctly, or robyn didnt get one fucking scan where they would have seen the cord.. BUT.. by basically stressing robyn out by suggesting she not be a feral fucking alley cat (who instinctually actually knows more than she does), suggested they get her to a hospital and the stress imposed by the 1st doula DOING HER JOB is what made this traumatic and caused this? that she has posted blogs about how traumatic her birth was, by her own doing?

can you imagine being the 1st doula walking out of the house, knowing something is going to go terribly wrong and besides calling 911 (which is what I think most of us would have done but idk the legalities behind that) knowing that there is zero you can do. its like being a patrol cop with no power, telling a driver they suppose is drunk to slow down, but the driver knows they have no Breathalyzer test and cant give them a ticket, yelling F you and then crashing into a wall 10 feet later? like thats basically what happened.

with that being said... what the fuck do you guys want her to do? stick her in a box and put her under a bed? thats still her kid,. if she didnt at least try to give her a quality of life which she clearly is. whether or not things work is different but at least shes trying. America is a fucked country. if a child is too much for you to handle and you surrender your child, youre put in jail, you cant euthanize your kid, the hospital isn't going to hold on to luna forever, theyre going to keep sending her home, put her in some sort of home and forget she exists? she clearly is thriving shes getting bigger and fatter. what should she do? stop feeding her and just let her die? it doest work like that. like cut her a break. even something as fucking stupid as turkey sauce or whatever, at least it seems like the kid likes it. I dont know all the terms here or anything so im not trying to be "sunshine" or whatever the fuck it is but really... what do you expect them to do with her? I mean could she do better, maybe? but you cant get blood from a rock. and, for what its worth, the kid couldn't move her mouth a few months ago and now she can clearly take a little liquid food orally. also, bc of her condition like (I forget who explained it not he last page) right now, her neurological hand tightness might release and she might be able to grab a rattle and hit her mom with it. they dont know if she actually is able to hear or see.. shes doing a little more then she used to.


also its unfair robyn gets all the fucking blame. she has a husband who ENCOURAGED her to stay home instead of saying "fuck this, that baby is mine too im calling 911." or "shes wearing that helmet every day or else." theres two people there not just one.

She’s not clearly thriving at all, unless by thriving you mean still alive. Luna is dying. Her condition means she will be dead before her 3rd birthday, there is no thriving with her condition just a constant decline to a slow death.

People are complaining about Robin using crystals and woo bullshit with Luna instead of actual comfort care and drugs.

At least Robyn is taking her to doctors and having therapists visit. Robyn insisted on having a shunt put in against medical advice, which is why she had to travel to California. After Luna was diagnosed she seemed to accept comfort and hospice care but then changed her mind and started lobbying for interventions like the shunt. She still thinks she knows better than those dumb sciency doctors even after her “know better” resulted in Luna slowly dying.

Other than that she’s keeping Luna fed and clean and as her number one prop on the gram.

Robyn’s birth story blog is archived in this thread. At no point did she say the first doula strongly urged her to go to the hospital. She was happier when the second doula showed up to relieve the first and preferred her. Her dumb photographer and husband both encouraged her to stay at home when Robyn actually decided she was ready to go to the hospital. (She did explicitly tell her husband beforehand that if she weakened during labor and asked to go to the hospital to tell her how strong she was and encourage her to stay the course. Robyn was very committed to this home birth shit no matter what.)

Obviously Robyn’s husband is a dumb twat too, he married her after all. But unlike Robyn he just posts a bunch of shirtless photos and dumb cross fit shit on IG with occasional and more natural photos of Luna. Robyn is the one using Luna as prop on IG and even using fucking beauty filters on her kids photos - that’s why she get 98 % of the hate. If her husband wants to start using his dying daughter to promote his business we will happily dial up the hate on him too.

 

[PotatoSalad4711]

I never comment bc it makes me feel too horrible BUT ....
If you read her (now deleted) blog, its somewhere in the first pages of this forum there were two birth doulas. the 1st birth doula was with her for two days and TRIED to get robyn to let her intervene, go to the hospital and have luna seen immediately after birth. Robyns whole tirade is against the 1st woman who basically "filled her head with doubt that she could do this" ON THE SECOND DAY. she had to convince robyn to let her feel if Lunas head was breeched, which is wasn't and her "shoving her hands inside me" made her feel "violated" and robyn explicitly says she "HATED" her after she checked for luna. literally uses the word "hated."

then the second one came who she considers an angel to relieve the first one. before the 1st one left they discussed that considering she was going on day three of labor ... it was probablyyyyyyyyy... in mom and babies best interest to get over to this hospital. this made robyn mad bc it filled her head with doubt of her own capabilities.

at some point with the 2nd doula robyn thinks she should go to the hospital but is gratefully talked out of it by the 2nd doula and her husband. and she is sOOooOooOOooo grateful that they believed in her. when the 1st doula, I forget either called or came back once luna was born she tried to pressure robyn to get her checked at the hospital where early intervention COULD HAVE BEEN VISIBLE.

she also notes that luna was NOT latching in her first few days or weeks of birth which is what they assumed was making her underweight. instead of giving her a fucking bottle of formula they gave her nothing until she was basically hungry enough to latch. she was clearly under weight, and STILL didnt take her to be seen.

can you imagine being the first doula, basically know that there is an ill fated out come, begging the mom to go to the hospital, for this to all happen, only despite Robyns own protests and now shes considered suing them??????????? (she doesnt have a chance in hell of winning against the doulas or Lunas doctors. medical science didnt miss something she refused intervention at literally every single turn.) she feels she was violated and they didnt follow her plan and not because luna wasn't facing correctly, or robyn didnt get one fucking scan where they would have seen the cord.. BUT.. by basically stressing robyn out by suggesting she not be a feral fucking alley cat (who instinctually actually knows more than she does), suggested they get her to a hospital and the stress imposed by the 1st doula DOING HER JOB is what made this traumatic and caused this? that she has posted blogs about how traumatic her birth was, by her own doing?

can you imagine being the 1st doula walking out of the house, knowing something is going to go terribly wrong and besides calling 911 (which is what I think most of us would have done but idk the legalities behind that) knowing that there is zero you can do. its like being a patrol cop with no power, telling a driver they suppose is drunk to slow down, but the driver knows they have no Breathalyzer test and cant give them a ticket, yelling F you and then crashing into a wall 10 feet later? like thats basically what happened.

with that being said... what the fuck do you guys want her to do? stick her in a box and put her under a bed? thats still her kid,. if she didnt at least try to give her a quality of life which she clearly is. whether or not things work is different but at least shes trying. America is a fucked country. if a child is too much for you to handle and you surrender your child, youre put in jail, you cant euthanize your kid, the hospital isn't going to hold on to luna forever, theyre going to keep sending her home, put her in some sort of home and forget she exists? she clearly is thriving shes getting bigger and fatter. what should she do? stop feeding her and just let her die? it doest work like that. like cut her a break. even something as fucking stupid as turkey sauce or whatever, at least it seems like the kid likes it. I dont know all the terms here or anything so im not trying to be "sunshine" or whatever the fuck it is but really... what do you expect them to do with her? I mean could she do better, maybe? but you cant get blood from a rock. and, for what its worth, the kid couldn't move her mouth a few months ago and now she can clearly take a little liquid food orally. also, bc of her condition like (I forget who explained it not he last page) right now, her neurological hand tightness might release and she might be able to grab a rattle and hit her mom with it. they dont know if she actually is able to hear or see.. shes doing a little more then she used to.


also its unfair robyn gets all the fucking blame. she has a husband who ENCOURAGED her to stay home instead of saying "fuck this, that baby is mine too im calling 911." or "shes wearing that helmet every day or else." theres two people there not just one.

Bitch, do you know what site you are on? We are here to laugh at and/or discuss lolcows. Robyn is a lolcow who is so disturbing she’s under the horrorcow tag, along with other distinguished mothers such as Susan and Wendy. And I use the word “mother” loosely.

She’s a complete and utter narc using her kids for money along with selling woo bullshit that will probably end in someone’s death or at least prolonged suffering. She deserves to be mocked and documented.

tldr, lurk moar.

 

[GenociderSyo]

 

[Spergichu]

I never comment bc it makes me feel too horrible BUT ....
If you read her (now deleted) blog, its somewhere in the first pages of this forum there were two birth doulas. the 1st birth doula was with her for two days and TRIED to get robyn to let her intervene, go to the hospital and have luna seen immediately after birth. Robyns whole tirade is against the 1st woman who basically "filled her head with doubt that she could do this" ON THE SECOND DAY. she had to convince robyn to let her feel if Lunas head was breeched, which is wasn't and her "shoving her hands inside me" made her feel "violated" and robyn explicitly says she "HATED" her after she checked for luna. literally uses the word "hated."

then the second one came who she considers an angel to relieve the first one. before the 1st one left they discussed that considering she was going on day three of labor ... it was probablyyyyyyyyy... in mom and babies best interest to get over to this hospital. this made robyn mad bc it filled her head with doubt of her own capabilities.

at some point with the 2nd doula robyn thinks she should go to the hospital but is gratefully talked out of it by the 2nd doula and her husband. and she is sOOooOooOOooo grateful that they believed in her. when the 1st doula, I forget either called or came back once luna was born she tried to pressure robyn to get her checked at the hospital where early intervention COULD HAVE BEEN VISIBLE.

she also notes that luna was NOT latching in her first few days or weeks of birth which is what they assumed was making her underweight. instead of giving her a fucking bottle of formula they gave her nothing until she was basically hungry enough to latch. she was clearly under weight, and STILL didnt take her to be seen.

can you imagine being the first doula, basically know that there is an ill fated out come, begging the mom to go to the hospital, for this to all happen, only despite Robyns own protests and now shes considered suing them??????????? (she doesnt have a chance in hell of winning against the doulas or Lunas doctors. medical science didnt miss something she refused intervention at literally every single turn.) she feels she was violated and they didnt follow her plan and not because luna wasn't facing correctly, or robyn didnt get one fucking scan where they would have seen the cord.. BUT.. by basically stressing robyn out by suggesting she not be a feral fucking alley cat (who instinctually actually knows more than she does), suggested they get her to a hospital and the stress imposed by the 1st doula DOING HER JOB is what made this traumatic and caused this? that she has posted blogs about how traumatic her birth was, by her own doing?

can you imagine being the 1st doula walking out of the house, knowing something is going to go terribly wrong and besides calling 911 (which is what I think most of us would have done but idk the legalities behind that) knowing that there is zero you can do. its like being a patrol cop with no power, telling a driver they suppose is drunk to slow down, but the driver knows they have no Breathalyzer test and cant give them a ticket, yelling F you and then crashing into a wall 10 feet later? like thats basically what happened.

with that being said... what the fuck do you guys want her to do? stick her in a box and put her under a bed? thats still her kid,. if she didnt at least try to give her a quality of life which she clearly is. whether or not things work is different but at least shes trying. America is a fucked country. if a child is too much for you to handle and you surrender your child, youre put in jail, you cant euthanize your kid, the hospital isn't going to hold on to luna forever, theyre going to keep sending her home, put her in some sort of home and forget she exists? she clearly is thriving shes getting bigger and fatter. what should she do? stop feeding her and just let her die? it doest work like that. like cut her a break. even something as fucking stupid as turkey sauce or whatever, at least it seems like the kid likes it. I dont know all the terms here or anything so im not trying to be "sunshine" or whatever the fuck it is but really... what do you expect them to do with her? I mean could she do better, maybe? but you cant get blood from a rock. and, for what its worth, the kid couldn't move her mouth a few months ago and now she can clearly take a little liquid food orally. also, bc of her condition like (I forget who explained it not he last page) right now, her neurological hand tightness might release and she might be able to grab a rattle and hit her mom with it. they dont know if she actually is able to hear or see.. shes doing a little more then she used to.


also its unfair robyn gets all the fucking blame. she has a husband who ENCOURAGED her to stay home instead of saying "fuck this, that baby is mine too im calling 911." or "shes wearing that helmet every day or else." theres two people there not just one.

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