Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

This is my belief as well. A lot of deradicalized by Breadtube types basically just watched the anti-SJW/Skeptic channels and maybe browsed /pol/ for edgy shit/saying racial slurs, nothing more. I think some of TNO's janny staff are much the same.
The people who flip easily between ideologies don't have their ideological basis in logic. They have their basis in emotion and whoever has the most compelling emotion at the time gets their support.
 
But without all the fancy trailers and merch to distract the userbase.
To be fair it's hard to merchandize TNO, doesn't make Kaiserreich's merchandise any less crinegy however, especially the "Hey guys look how little of a life I have with my 20 flags from Kaiserreich!"
“India is basically %100 code finished” my ass lmao
Apparently the India devs are taking a break or suffering burnout. The real laughingstock is that it will soon be 1.5 years since the China update and most tags still don't have all their content.
Japan's another egregious example of that problem with Kaiserreich. Honestly after all the TNO drama I'm suprised Kaiserreich hasn't had anything on that scale. Closest thing they've had was the drama between the devs and sub modders and even then that's fairly low tier sperging compared to the wild ride of TNO.

Personally I'm thinking TNO's days are numbered, they've already been through two lead devs, the content goal posts are constantly being shifted, and their reputation outside of their circle has gone to shit or is going to shit depending who you talk to.
How bad is Japan in KR? I assume it's due to their relation with how unfinished China is.
It is even worse than Krautreich because in TNO you can't do anything without focus tree. Also most mods usually have 6-7 years worth of focuses depends how much filler there is. TNO needs full ten years. Plus events...

So far they patched mod enough so you dont need every five minutes use Console to fix things that broke.
Added some of promised launch content.
And added bit of post Taboritsky content. Probably put together in week or two so they can pretend this drama didnt affect them for little longer.


They said that Toolbox theory or how they call it will be out in 1 month that was like 6-7 weeks ago
 
Personally I'm thinking TNO's days are numbered, they've already been through two lead devs, the content goal posts are constantly being shifted, and their reputation outside of their circle has gone to shit or is going to shit depending who you talk to.
I don't think TNO is going away anytime soon, at least if you're implying the project will officially cease content production. HOI 4 is scripting which is just changing data tables and not proper coding which is why they can have such a huge (around 200) strong taskforce that was already a revolving door before this thread picked up steam. And being put up to any lead role was a win-win where you now get to do nothing and take all the credit for the work of 200 other people. Lead devs stepping down is really symbolic and can affect morale for a bit. But, is functionally meaningless in practice since everything was already planned and they stopped scripting. I think the Kaisereich comparisons of a focus on endless reworks that stall major content additions is most likely. It'll be interesting to see what the content is like when they move beyond that though. Since they're not bound by Panzer's insanely bad ideas long term now. Part me of wants them to make good content and not constantly fuck it up. Part of me wants it to be even worse.
 
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Apparently the India devs are taking a break or suffering burnout. The real laughingstock is that it will soon be 1.5 years since the China update and most tags still don't have all their content.
I was actually talking about TNO their India was supposed to be code complete with only writing shit missing but India content is nowhere to be found.

I don't think TNO is going away anytime soon, at least if you're implying the project will officially cease content production. HOI 4 is scripting which is just changing data tables and not proper coding which is why they can have such a huge (around 200) strong taskforce that was already a revolving door before this thread picked up steam. And being put up to any lead role was a win-win where you now get to do nothing and take all the credit for the work of 200 other people. Lead devs stepping down is really symbolic and can affect morale for a bit. But, is functionally meaningless in practice since everything was already planned and they stopped scripting. I think the Kaisereich comparisons of a focus on endless reworks that stall major content additions is most likely. It'll be interesting to see what the content is like when they move beyond that though. Since they're not bound by Panzer's insanely bad ideas long term now. Part me of wants them to make good content and not constantly fuck it up. Part of me wants it to be even worse.
I just want a good mod. Also remember their first expansion pack (Cutting Room Floor) was supposed to be shit that was cut last minute and it took them FOUR MONTHS to release it. I honestly don't know if the endless cycle of reworks is what we'll get since the reworks have seemed to stop after Panzer and Pacifica stepped down.
 
Hey kiwi, this is gonna be a long post, this is my interview I had with Tinyds or zagreus, Hammy's victim.

before this starts, tiny's lawyer is currently in the process of subpoenaing discord, steam, spotify, and any other site that has hammy's information on it, he had also stopped giving me some evidence because he was afraid it would mess the case up, and he is currently talking to his lawyer and parents about what information he can give legally. because the court case is taking place in hong kong (where hammy lives) there is a lot of complications which make this much more of a headache for everyone involved.

Please understand that he's trying his best to give as much evidence as possible, its just gonna take time.

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Hey kiwi, this is gonna be a long post, this is my interview I had with Tinyds or zagreus, Hammy's victim.

before this starts, tiny's lawyer is currently in the process of subpoenaing discord, steam, spotify, and any other site that has hammy's information on it, he had also stopped giving me some evidence because he was afraid it would mess the case up, and he is currently talking to his lawyer and parents about what information he can give legally. because the court case is taking place in hong kong (where hammy lives) there is a lot of complications which make this much more of a headache for everyone involved.

Please understand that he's trying his best to give as much evidence as possible, its just gonna take time.

Jesus Christ it gets worse and worse doesn’t it
 
Wait so just to summarize:

No DMs or chatlogs that can be confirmed
A shitty blurred out image of some asian schoolchildren from god knows where
No call logs, or anything like it
Some image of blood/paint with no context at all
"Dude bro trust me its all true, I have evidence but I cant show it bro"
Apparently violently abused, but still willing to remove all mentions to TNO for an ...unban?

And you actually believe any of this?
 
Hey kiwi, this is gonna be a long post, this is my interview I had with Tinyds or zagreus, Hammy's victim.

before this starts, tiny's lawyer is currently in the process of subpoenaing discord, steam, spotify, and any other site that has hammy's information on it, he had also stopped giving me some evidence because he was afraid it would mess the case up, and he is currently talking to his lawyer and parents about what information he can give legally. because the court case is taking place in hong kong (where hammy lives) there is a lot of complications which make this much more of a headache for everyone involved.

Please understand that he's trying his best to give as much evidence as possible, its just gonna take time.

Never in my life I thought I’d see such a shitshow on the Internet
 
Wait so just to summarize:

No DMs or chatlogs that can be confirmed
A shitty blurred out image of some asian schoolchildren from god knows where
No call logs, or anything like it
Some image of blood/paint with no context at all
"Dude bro trust me its all true, I have evidence but I cant show it bro"
Apparently violently abused, but still willing to remove all mentions to TNO for an ...unban?

And you actually believe any of this?
It’s more the fact that it fits into what we’ve known about TNO in the past. Also do you know how difficult it is to recover dms from a deactivated discord account?
 
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Wait so just to summarize:

No DMs or chatlogs that can be confirmed
A shitty blurred out image of some asian schoolchildren from god knows where
No call logs, or anything like it
Some image of blood/paint with no context at all
"Dude bro trust me its all true, I have evidence but I cant show it bro"
Apparently violently abused, but still willing to remove all mentions to TNO for an ...unban?

And you actually believe any of this?
seeing this thread is still alive i would like to ask if there is any leaker reading willing to give us anything new from inside tno. also fuck tiny lmao, knowing him from the past i know he is just an attention seeking whore and probably a groomer himself, i remember there were rumors.
Nice to see tno glow niggers are stupid. Also hi enderblitz, I know it’s you with the sniper pfp you degenerate troon.
 
How bad is Japan in KR? I assume it's due to their relation with how unfinished China is.

Oh it's bad. Like really bad, as far as I know Japan either hasn't been touched since the HOI4 verision of KR came out or there was one or two minor updates in the early side of 2017 and then there has been absolutely nothing ever since.

And what makes it really egregious is that their focus tree is so bare bones to the point where it resembles a base hoi4 focus tree more than a Kaiserreich focus tree and heck even then it would be on the lower tier of base game focus trees.

At least Germany has gotten new content via the reworking of Mittleuropa and their colonies, even the china update didn't do much for Japan.

Not too sure about the reasoning as to why Japan's been untouched, waiting for china's content makes the most sense but i feel like i remember many years ago seeing a dev n the KR subreddit say that Japan needed to wait for all the own majors to be updated before it could be reworked.
 
Oh it's bad. Like really bad, as far as I know Japan either hasn't been touched since the HOI4 verision of KR came out or there was one or two minor updates in the early side of 2017 and then there has been absolutely nothing ever since.

And what makes it really egregious is that their focus tree is so bare bones to the point where it resembles a base hoi4 focus tree more than a Kaiserreich focus tree and heck even then it would be on the lower tier of base game focus trees.

At least Germany has gotten new content via the reworking of Mittleuropa and their colonies, even the china update didn't do much for Japan.

Not too sure about the reasoning as to why Japan's been untouched, waiting for china's content makes the most sense but i feel like i remember many years ago seeing a dev n the KR subreddit say that Japan needed to wait for all the own majors to be updated before it could be reworked.
Oh I thought you meant in Japan's presentation in KR, but yeah that tree is awful. I think Japan being in Asia kind of pushes it outside of the periphery for some reason but there is no reason it doesn't need a dire rework.
 
Oh I thought you meant in Japan's presentation in KR, but yeah that tree is awful. I think Japan being in Asia kind of pushes it outside of the periphery for some reason but there is no reason it doesn't need a dire rework.
TNO Japan is also in pretty bad state . They planned five paths at launch . 2 were cut. Most of mechanic didnt work last time I checked so you get couped by Kishi in like 1969 (failstate).
And only thing you normally do is Indochinese civil war and it doesnt matter because even If "your" side wins they still become independent and leave Sphere
 
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