Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[DoorPost101]

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/hospital-wards-are-filling-up-again-with-fakers/

Potentially interesting article from an NHS hospital worker on the absence (and subsequent return) of munchies from hospitals during covid.

The bit about "seizures" was a bit infuriating though.

This is intriguing, I wondered how COVID would affect the flow of munchies into the health care system. Thanks for posting this.

 

[Behavioral Sink]

Damn, this kid is constantly asking for $$ online. I think I find the fact that they're watching kids, when they claim to be unable to move very odd. Steven universe for toddlers--the autism is strong in this one. (Also the answer to their question in this post is ask their parents if/what type of media they are allowed to consume.) ETA: excellent timeline/archiving
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Anyone who thinks they'll get to call the shots on what kids watch knows nothing about kids. They have pretty strong feelings of their own about what they want to watch. (And if they don't, their parents probably do.) I would not let this person look after my children.

 

[Button Moon]

Anyone who thinks they'll get to call the shots on what kids watch knows nothing about kids. They have pretty strong feelings of their own about what they want to watch. (And if they don't, their parents probably do.) I would not let this person look after my children.

I couldn't wish years of daily Peppa Pig marathons on a more deserving person.

They sound lazy and self centered: taking the kids on walks, playing or doing activities hasn't even entered their head.

Being a decent human to the children might be a real good place to start on bringing up kids who don't dislike trans people or nannys (not going to happen).

Hoping they don't get so far as their first paycheck until they realise they will be expected to work, not sit around and subsequently nope out of it with a shit excuse.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

I couldn't wish years of daily Peppa Pig marathons on a more deserving person.

They sound lazy and self centered: taking the kids on walks, playing or doing activities hasn't even entered their head.

Being a decent human to the children might be a real good place to start on bringing up kids who don't dislike trans people or nannys (not going to happen).

Hoping they don't get so far as their first paycheck until they realise they will be expected to work, not sit around and subsequently nope out of it with a shit excuse.

Agreed. Trying to force anything on young kids, even if it's something good, is a recipe for making them reject it. I question the ethics of inuring children to trans ideology, and I'd think that if being trans is really a thing people are born with and not a trend, you wouldn't need to introduce kids to the concept; they'd just naturally realize.

This Casey person is obviously really young and doesn't quite understand how children think. She's setting up a scenario in which, 15 years from now, those kids will be on the successor to the Farms powerleveling about their creepy trans babysitter who made them watch some weird cartoon so that they'd want to mutilate their genitals.

 

[Dovahshit]

Agreed. Trying to force anything on young kids, even if it's something good, is a recipe for making them reject it. I question the ethics of inuring children to trans ideology, and I'd think that if being trans is really a thing people are born with and not a trend, you wouldn't need to introduce kids to the concept; they'd just naturally realize.

This Casey person is obviously really young and doesn't quite understand how children think. She's setting up a scenario in which, 15 years from now, those kids will be on the successor to the Farms powerleveling about their creepy trans babysitter who made them watch some weird cartoon so that they'd want to mutilate their genitals.

"mom , i dont want the weird looking lady to babysit me again, she sounds weird : c"

 

[AssignedEva]

Agreed. Trying to force anything on young kids, even if it's something good, is a recipe for making them reject it. I question the ethics of inuring children to trans ideology, and I'd think that if being trans is really a thing people are born with and not a trend, you wouldn't need to introduce kids to the concept; they'd just naturally realize.

This Casey person is obviously really young and doesn't quite understand how children think. She's setting up a scenario in which, 15 years from now, those kids will be on the successor to the Farms powerleveling about their creepy trans babysitter who made them watch some weird cartoon so that they'd want to mutilate their genitals.

It doesn't seem like Casey has any experience with children. Normally nannies (specifically nannies over babysitters, since that's what Casey's going for) have helped out with younger siblings or are just naturally good with kids.

How are you going to e.g. make sure the three year old brushes their teeth every night if you're posting online about whether or not a 20 month old is a good conversationalist? What are you going to cook them for dinner? I doubt Casey would last long as a nanny.

 

[Daughter of Cernunnos]

BEANS!!!
(smashes small daughter's face into concrete floor)

 

[Nigger faggot 2022]

This reminds me of a girl I was friends with on Livejournal in the 2000s. She was married to the ghost of Kurt Cobain (and like 5 other ghosts) and would go from being female to male to genderless to male and back again; asexual, but would post about having tons of kinky sex with ghosts and her IRL girlfriend; said she was on methadone treatment for heroin addiction. I wish I could find whatever platform she's spinning her crazy yarns on, because she would make a fantastic cow.

Ofherbsandaltars on YouTube? Sorry wicked late, loving the thread though.

 

[Umaibae]

Spoiler: small PL about ana-chans who build their entire lives around food/cooking

I'm a bit reminded here of an anorexic I know IRL who is a pastry chef, makes food as unhealthy as possible and relishes staring at people as they eat it. Cries/gets her boyfriend to yell at people if they're full/dieting and don't want one of her truffles or cake creations.

Weird, as I ALSO know a pastry chef turned munchie, complete with a wheelchair and Disney visits pre-coronavirus. She’s married, so not your munchie. I haven’t mentioned here at all because I don’t want to ID myself to her or her family. Would be obvious, I think. She doesn’t have an public online presence.

 

[Sketch]

The tiktok girls seem like all the dumb posers that would copy each others band shirts in high school without knowing any songs.
Can someone explain why girls with turrets would say beans?

 

[Ear]

Weird, as I ALSO know a pastry chef turned munchie, complete with a wheelchair and Disney visits pre-coronavirus. She’s married, so not your munchie. I haven’t mentioned here at all because I don’t want to ID myself to her or her family. Would be obvious, I think. She doesn’t have an public online presence.

My theory is it's competitive ED-ing. 'You just avoid food? Amateur. I spend all day cooking with the fattiest, sugariest ingredients, then watch my friends enjoy them, and still remain strong."

But if you don't fancy a slice of her cheesecake she freaks out because she's losing control again.

 

[TheBigZee]

The tiktok girls seem like all the dumb posers that would copy each others band shirts in high school without knowing any songs.
Can someone explain why girls with turrets would say beans?

They aren't creative and beans is PG.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

The tiktok girls seem like all the dumb posers that would copy each others band shirts in high school without knowing any songs.
Can someone explain why girls with turrets would say beans?

All people with Tourette syndrome have tics, which are semi-voluntary behaviors involving movement or vocalization. A small percentage have complex phonic tics, including echolalia (repeating words other people say) and palilalia (repeating one's own words). There's also a tic involving compulsively saying taboo or inappropriate words, which is called coprolalia and although rare, is the most commonly depicted tic in portrayals of characters with TS.

My uncharitable assumption is that one of the TicTock (get it?) girls saw something about a character with TS who had coprolalia and adopted it for whatever reason, but was uncomfortable swearing on Tiktok. Thus, "beans!" The other girls, who also have no understanding of TS other than television, have co-opted it because they think it makes them look like True and Honest sufferers.

It's possible that one of them developed this particular tic after reading or hearing someone else say it (palilalia) and now it's spread to the others the same way, but I don't give them that much credit.

Also, the way this particular tic is manifesting is much more similar to klazomania than to a legitimate TS symptom. Unfortunately for the beans! gang, klazomania isn't a TS symptom and is instead observed in patients with brain damage, encephalitis, or seizure disorders. All of the "motor tics" I've seen from these girls really resemble dystonia or chorea much more than they do Tourette syndrome.

Also also, tics are only semi-voluntary, meaning that they can be suppressed, although this does cause some degree of discomfort for the patient. Most adults are able to suppress the urge when it isn't appropriate to tic. I'd think a bit of discomfort is a fair trade for not smacking your kid, but what do I know. The weird, involuntary jerking is, as I mentioned, much more like a dystonia or chorea than a tic.

Tl,dr: It's because all of them are of low average intelligence and are faking based on a very limited understanding of Tourette syndrome and its symptoms.

 

[TheBigZee]

Hope it's OK to dump this here, just some brain food.

I learned some stuff about MCAS from my ex-wife yesterday. She has a PhD in immunology. MCAS is apparently real. They've found a biomarker that is elevated while people are experience objective symptoms like the shits. Its probably also relatively common (think 3-8% of the general pop). What is rare is for it to be truly life threatening in the absence of an objectively diagnosable mast cell disease.

She thought that as the diagnostics process was improved that it would be found to be responsible for some percentage of people who experience panic attacks - the escalating physiological loop is kicked off by the body and not the brain. She also thought that mast activation could be triggered by the bodies response to anxiety, and could be part of the mechanism by which (some of) the physiological symptoms of panic attacks are provoked.

It all needs more research, but it looks like nothing is really rare about the trifecta - hypermobility, pots, and mcas all likely occur in ~10% of the population. The bad news is that food "sensitivities" could be real.

Edit: To clarify - each of these conditions come up independently. Not all together.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Hope it's OK to dump this here, just some brain food.

I learned some stuff about MCAS from my ex-wife yesterday. She has a PhD in immunology. MCAS is apparently real. They've found a biomarker that is elevated while people are experience objective symptoms like the shits. Its probably also relatively common (think 3-8% of the general pop). What is rare is for it to be truly life threatening in the absence of an objectively diagnosable mast cell disease.

She thought that as the diagnostics process was improved that it would be found to be responsible for some percentage of people who experience panic attacks - the escalating physiological loop is kicked off by the body and not the brain. She also thought that mast activation could be triggered by the bodies response to anxiety, and could be part of the mechanism by which (some of) the physiological symptoms of panic attacks are provoked.

It all needs more research, but it looks like nothing is really rare about the trifecta - hypermobility, pots, and mcas all likely occur in ~10% of the population. The bad news is that food "sensitivities" could be real.

This is pretty cool, but respectfully, it doesn't mean that MCAS as claimed by our munchies is real. As you've said, there will need to be much more research, and other laboratories will have to confirm the results.

There have already been studies demonstrating the utility of various diagnostic markers and their characterization in MCAS. I don't think anyone doubts that there are elevated inflammatory markers in patients with MCAS symptoms. For the women in this thread, though, the issue is whether they have MCAS or any other illness in the first place.

I'm not sure how the presence of a particular "MCAS biomarker" leads to the conclusion that the condition is related to POTS or hypermobility, either.

I don't mean to shit on your post or your ex's work. I just think it merits clarifying that this isn't a new line of research and one paper does not a conclusive theory make.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

All people with Tourette syndrome have tics, which are semi-voluntary behaviors involving movement or vocalization. A small percentage have complex phonic tics, including echolalia (repeating words other people say) and palilalia (repeating one's own words). There's also a tic involving compulsively saying taboo or inappropriate words, which is called coprolalia and although rare, is the most commonly depicted tic in portrayals of characters with TS.

My uncharitable assumption is that one of the TicTock (get it?) girls saw something about a character with TS who had coprolalia and adopted it for whatever reason, but was uncomfortable swearing on Tiktok. Thus, "beans!" The other girls, who also have no understanding of TS other than television, have co-opted it because they think it makes them look like True and Honest sufferers.

It's possible that one of them developed this particular tic after reading or hearing someone else say it (palilalia) and now it's spread to the others the same way, but I don't give them that much credit.

Also, the way this particular tic is manifesting is much more similar to klazomania than to a legitimate TS symptom. Unfortunately for the beans! gang, klazomania isn't a TS symptom and is instead observed in patients with brain damage, encephalitis, or seizure disorders. All of the "motor tics" I've seen from these girls really resemble dystonia or chorea much more than they do Tourette syndrome.

Also also, tics are only semi-voluntary, meaning that they can be suppressed, although this does cause some degree of discomfort for the patient. Most adults are able to suppress the urge when it isn't appropriate to tic. I'd think a bit of discomfort is a fair trade for not smacking your kid, but what do I know. The weird, involuntary jerking is, as I mentioned, much more like a dystonia or chorea than a tic.

Tl,dr: It's because all of them are of low average intelligence and are faking based on a very limited understanding of Tourette syndrome and its symptoms.

Now that you mention it... the one case I am thinking of definitely isn't tourettes. She appears to have chorea. Kinda worrisome considering some pretty not fun disorders have chorea as a symptom.

Only reason I don't peg her as a faker is seizures.

 

[TheBigZee]

This is pretty cool, but respectfully, it doesn't mean that MCAS as claimed by our munchies is real. As you've said, there will need to be much more research, and other laboratories will have to confirm the results.

There have already been studies demonstrating the utility of various diagnostic markers and their characterization in MCAS. I don't think anyone doubts that there are elevated inflammatory markers in patients with MCAS symptoms. For the women in this thread, though, the issue is whether they have MCAS or any other illness in the first place.

I'm not sure how the presence of a particular "MCAS biomarker" leads to the conclusion that the condition is related to POTS or hypermobility, either.

I don't mean to shit on your post or your ex's work. I just think it merits clarifying that this isn't a new line of research and one paper does not a conclusive theory make.

I didn't say they were all connected, I said they were all common. These munchies are getting themselves killed by having common problems overtreated, and I had no idea how common MCAS probably was. Fusions for CCI (no objective test, hypermobility), Central line infections from POTS (common), and aggressive treatments for MCAS (common).

I read through this thread from about page 300, and holy fuck. The cross country RV trip for "emergency" surgery takes the cake. I wish I had the tolerance for this bullshit to find content but KFS does the lord's work. I don't know what it is about hEDS that leads to people escalating into this behavior. Some of these people had it (ALF). Not to sound like a kiwi farms Freud, but maybe being told if you just grip the pencil a little tighter and practice more you'll pass 3rd grade penmanship when they physically can't leads to that.

If you know anyone tempted to self euthanize their cat by stepping on its head b/c their broke animal control will chuck it in the nitrogen chamber for free or low costs most states and counties

Edit: Also to clarify a lot of these people are flat lying about hEDS, but some of them aren't. If you watch the tip of the thumb and the fingertips when they aren't paying attention you can see they have a 180+ degree plus range of motion. This kind of escalation of diagnosis->visible mobility aids->aggressive interventions is common, and the people I've met IRL have joints that are lax enough to subluxate if they relax their muscles.

 

[Fission Mailed]

Oh god I almost forgot about the cat. It's not even expensive to get a cat euthanized. You need to be a monster to do something like that instead of taking it to be treated..

Spoiler

A few years ago I had to get a cat euthanized, and it was $35 for the entire visit and procedure. If you wanted them to dispose of the animal it was an extra $50. That's nothing compared to how absolutely traumatizing it'd be to stomp a cat to death

 

[Fliddaroonie]

Oh god I almost forgot about the cat. It's not even expensive to get a cat euthanized. You need to be a monster to do something like that instead of taking it to be treated..

Spoiler

A few years ago I had to get a cat euthanized, and it was $35 for the entire visit and procedure. If you wanted them to dispose of the animal it was an extra $50. That's nothing compared to how absolutely traumatizing it'd be to stomp a cat to death

I've dealt with a lot of vets before and many will have options to pay part now, part later, if it means ending needless suffering of an innocent animal. Only a cunt will not do that for their pet or do it themselves in a terrible way.

 

[JackDonaghysSecretLover]

I think I've cursed my algorithm because here's yet another beans yelling weirdo. This video is hilarious because she bashes her head right away,