Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Product Placement]

Lol California says it's OK to be Poz. Go and spread your strains, brah! Get with the times you loadphobic bigot!

Fuck California, I hope that is a statement most of us can agree on here with

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

https://twitter.com/Jenny_Trout/status/1386020185581162496 (https://archive.ph/Q6ekj)

My fellow whites? Do I even have to look? Every.Single.Time.

https://twitter.com/Jenny_Trout/status/1163138664018452480 (https://archive.ph/lbzpc)

 

[No. 7 cat]

Basically Gardaí (local word for police) stopped a Mass in Athlone SSPX chapel, under COVID regulations. I do believe I see the violent man himself Garda Kieran Dempsey, who injured a man when he arrested him resulting in a 50,000 Euro payout to his victim.

Archived the article on the pig thug: https://archive.li/2RWr5

 

[Smug Cat]

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https://twitter.com/Jenny_Trout/status/1386020185581162496 (https://archive.ph/Q6ekj)

My fellow whites? Do I even have to look? Every.Single.Time.
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https://twitter.com/Jenny_Trout/status/1163138664018452480 (https://archive.ph/lbzpc)

>you're white, you're gonna get probation, max
Imagine being such an entitled dipshit that you think 1) people who offend you should be assaulted and 2) random strangers should be willing to get probation (as if running afoul of the criminal legal system to the point of getting probation is nbd) in order to own someone who has offended you.

 

[El Gordo Ramsay Sex Dwarf]

Iirc you can get infected through the eyes, not sure if it is the exact reason tho

Just need Fraudci to claim you can get infected through the ears and it'll be like the three wise monkeys.

 

[knobslobbin]

VAERS data isn't useless, manipulated (mostly, it is susceptible to manipulation), and it should be talked about. My problem is how lazy it's being talked about, particularly by people who want to create fear. You have to click through multiple disclaimers to even get to VAERS data (see attachments) so it can't really be an accident; all eyes are on VAERS and overwhelmingly health researchers, regulators, and doctors CURRENTLY think the vaccines not already on pause are fine and the data is not unusual, even if that could change at any time.
Why does random essential oil website #99 see a problem right now and not them? Is the essential oil website run by Einstein, or are all those healthcare professionals EVIL and BAD? I wanna know.
e: The last batch of data in the Wonder search is from April 16th, by the way, it's been well over a week and no one's sounded alarm bells.

Ppl have lost trust in their institutions, and for good reasons. You can argue all you want how dumb those people are and how poor their arguments are constructed... but an alternative reality that the rest of us are living in is the powers that be have foolishly cashed in their public trust for short term political gains and that check is about to bounce any day now.

You are mocked here, at least partly, because how out of touch you seem to us heathen non-believers.

At the end of the day all of us have to make our own decisions about the vaccines based on incomplete information amidst a sea of misinformation, partisan politics, and a crumbling social fabric. Good luck everyone, I hope the vaccine alarmism is completely unwarranted but I won't be getting it.

 

[No. 7 cat]

>you're white, you're gonna get probation, max
Imagine being such an entitled dipshit that you think 1) people who offend you should be assaulted and 2) random strangers should be willing to get probation (as if running afoul of the criminal legal system to the point of getting probation is nbd) in order to own someone who has offended you.

Stupid woman too. The US stats show that 10% of homicides of whites are by police, and while this relates to the UK, the meaning is similar. White privilege only exists on fake news.

 

[Autopsy]

Ppl have lost trust in their institutions, and for good reasons. You can argue all you want how dumb those people are and how poor their arguments are constructed... but an alternative reality that the rest of us are living in is the powers that be have foolishly cashed in their public trust for short term political gains and that check is about to bounce any day now.

You are mocked here, at least partly, because how out of touch you seem to us heathen non-believers.

At the end of the day all of us have to make our own decisions about the vaccines based on incomplete information amidst a sea of misinformation, partisan politics, and a crumbling social fabric. Good luck everyone, I hope the vaccine alarmism is completely unwarranted but I won't be getting it.

Most of my chagrin is that when I view "the powers that be" as an enemy of health and modern science and the public trust in those things. For the members of the public who are aware enough to distrust the powers that be to also take a sledgehammer to health and modern science feels like being beaten on by both sides.

I respect your decision even if it's based on information or beliefs I don't find compelling, and I sincerely hope everything goes well regardless. I'm repeating myself again, but my reason for entering the thread at all was to try to address specific claims, bring different information and a different perspective, not "to convince."
If you read any of my posts with an open mind and still don't find the (pretty mainstream) views I present on data/pathology topics compelling, that's a good thing, because you have tested your beliefs and shored them up. If you change your mind, that's good too. Echo chambers are a problem, not having your own beliefs, and making decisions about your own body isn't ever a problem, even if your choices are the "wrong" ones. do expect to get laughed at if it's as crazy as troonshittery though lol

The only posters I have zero respect for are the ones that say "lol didn't read" as a way to mask their closed-mindedness, or get defensive because they don't want to change their mind, as if that's a badge of honor when they're posting in the subforum specifically dedicated to obnoxious arguments.

 

[Mepsi Pax]

Guitar Center asked me if I had a mask today, we have some at the door they said, well you know if I'm gonna walk back to the door then I'm not gonna stop walking until I'm back in my car. I'll just buy strings at the local shop when they open on Monday, corporate enterprise is a mistake every time. I took my good car to Mavis once before for tire swap, only because they were open Sundays, well long story short I'll never do that again - "convenience" is usually just a way of ripping you off (and it turns you into a retard faggot based on the social trends we're seeing).

It's like dude, this is a free state now, nobody cares. There were some authority-types who cared before but now no one does and we're flooded with tourists from the usual shitholes coming here to have some semblance of a normal life. If the cops don't care then why do you? Poor kid. I was feeling pretty good after a run so I just shrugged at him and said "Eh" on my way out.

Edit: I guess today was a day because at the grocery store where I've never gotten any flack for mask non-compliance (I wore a bandana over my face there ONE time, that was when I actually had China Virus), some (masked) ostensibly female child that was with her gay looking (masked) ostensibly male dad said something like "He's not wearing a mask!" after I checked out behind them. Another poor kid. As if American girls aren't cunty enough already, this one's being trained to be extra special. Maybe fagdad will force his 11 year old to take the vaccine shot too.

By the way, it's "shot" not "jab" people. What the fuck is this shit? Speak American please.

 

[NoReturn]

I miss @Otterly. Where the hell did she go?

i've heard saudi arabia is fat as shit these days.

[You're white, you're gonna get probation, max.]

If not for the "my fellow whites" I would be so confused right now.
"Is she this delusional? Does she think all white people are wealthy? She could get someone killed!"
"...oh. She's trying to get someone killed. I see."

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

The only thing that really concerns me about all this clownery is Covid Karens. More specifically, how their flailing encourages government entities to keep pulling (or threatening to pull) "solutions" out of their asses, like more lockdowns and vaccine passports and asinine policies about wearing a diaper while standing but not while sitting, as if the coof's ill humors are sitting in the miasma 5 feet above the floor. I'm so far done with the theatrics. The histrionic squawking that we're going to DIEEEEE. Doesn't matter if you tell them it's a less than a fraction of one percent chance. They're back to entreating the reaper less than an hour later. We have someone in the last page of this thread comparing it to AIDS. You know, the incurable virus that stays with you forever, the one you can pass on for the rest of your life and requires a drug cocktail to make sure it doesn't go fatal? Comparing it to this two week cold. You can dicker over personal thresholds for vaccine risk-reward returns until the cows come home for all I care. I'd rather people first slap the taste out of these wailing busybodies to shut the fuck up and stop begging the government to ram a cock up my ass because they feeeeeeeeeeel unsaaaaaaaaaaaaafe. Bolt yourselves into your houses and obsessively bleach your doorknobs as if you believe viruses can fucking teleport. Karen sensationalism welcomed all of this stupidity, and continues to do so. I'd love it if the wider culture stopped coddling these peoples' delusional fear fantasies.

 

[tehpope]

So I didn't have to wear a mask going grocery shopping today. No one cared I wasn't wearing one and no one hassled me. I told my mom and she called me foolish. We basically had a mini fight about it. Saying my age group (18-35) is susceptible to covid because we don't wanna wear masks. My parents are around that age group that really get fucked by covid. My parents are usually above this kind of shit. It sucks I have to avoid talking about covid now since they seem pro masks. Probably forever.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Bolt yourselves into your houses and obsessively bleach your doorknobs as if you believe viruses can fucking teleport. Karen sensationalism welcomed all of this stupidity, and continues to do so. I'd love it if the wider culture stopped coddling these peoples' delusional fear fantasies.

I hope this covid shit never ends in NYC because for the first time in my memory shit is getting cleaned on the regular, like the nasty ass subway, which already had me deploying wipes and soaking in hand cleaner long before the chink flu yet niggas are still throwing their masks away in the streets and taking them off to cough. I avoid the subway most of the time anyway. We have express buses, which cost twice as much but are faster and way cleaner, not to mention more comfortable.

And that's the thing, if you have the means or the wherewithal you can simply ignore the covid bullshit. The only thing this has done is reinforce my belief that living in a red state is far better than the shit hole NYC has become.

 

[knobslobbin]

I hope this covid shit never ends in NYC because for the first time in my memory shit is getting cleaned on the regular, like the nasty ass subway, which already had me deploying wipes and soaking in hand cleaner long before the chink flu yet niggas are still throwing their masks away in the streets and taking them off to cough. I avoid the subway most of the time anyway. We have express buses, which cost twice as much but are faster and way cleaner, not to mention more comfortable.

And that's the thing, if you have the means or the wherewithal you can simply ignore the covid bullshit. The only thing this has done is reinforce my belief that living in a red state is far better than the shit hole NYC has become.

For love of god why are you still in a blue state, much less the center of corruption that is NYC?

Run, RUN!!!!!!

 

[Feline Supremacist]

For love of god why are you still in a blue state, much less the center of corruption that is NYC?

Run, RUN!!!!!!

There are many things, people and situations to consider and resolve before leaving. I am working on it.

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

 

[Bosmadden]

Fuck off, you're not my dad.
You've thrown in "anti vax" doctors and "over reporting" into your interpretation of my take, no, the claim is that docs and patients have underreported personal health outcomes relative to the population standards you would expect to see in the past (i.e every week 100 people throw a clot regardless of vaccination status, every week 50 of those people are vaccinated, only 1 of those 50 people bother to put it in VAERS which indicates a lower than normal rate of clotting for vaccinated people if taken seriously), which is a well-documented phenomenon.
The claim is rather that they've stopped underreporting now. Pro-vaccine doctors have more reasons to add info on experimental vaccines to VAERS than anyone else. There's more than enough reason to think that public interest is turning under-reporting into over-reporting (not by docs, but specifically random ass people with the V-safe app), but I still have zero interest in demonstrating why I believe so if you're going to argue about it in bad faith. Protip: alleging that the entire medical system is conspiring to kill babies and maim Americans as the basis for your objections is bad faith.

"Throwing a clot" in the gen pop means a DVT, leading to a pulmonary embolism etc (in the worse cases). Obviously if an old person shows up with a DVT after a flu vaccine this won't be considered causal, however this is not what we're seeing with the coof shots. There's a vast difference between an 80 year old having a leg clot due to immobility and a 20 year old showing a hyper rare platelet coagulation disorder with systemic bleeding. So rare in fact that literally no one is disputing that they're being caused by the vaccines, except you apparently.

You're also back to claiming that VAERS data is causal, which is actually backtracking from your more accurate conclusion that "trends" are what matter.

I'm not claiming anything, I'm stating that the VAERS data is showing a 100 times greater incidence of serious side effects (including death). compared to the annual flu shot. It may be that doctors are reporting side effects more assiduously when it comes to the coof vaccines, or it may be the complete opposite. For every vax skeptical doctor I can show you 100 true believer Branch Covidians who 'trust the science' and are convinced that the vaccines are entirely safe, that side effects are either imaginary or coincidence. I could easily make broad brush declarative statements that the VAERS numbers are in fact 10 times worse than we're being told due to this, but I'm not because I don't know and neither do you.

While I really shouldn't, I will at least throw you a bone on the age distribution of vaccinations, because I think you just didn't take the point the right way. 69.8% of 65+ers are estimated to have received Flu shots from 2019-2020 based on distribution, while 81.3% of 65+ers have had at least one dose.
Relative quantity of elderly taking COVID vax vs Flu is 1.16:1, and they are the major contributor to fatality reports by medical staff specifically. I imagine the numbers becomes more stark if you break down categories at the 50+ level instead of 65+, but this wasn't my claim to justify in the first place (I picked it up after another lad mentioned it), and I think this is more than enough to demonstrate it's not totally unfounded.

Again I'm not claiming anything . It was you who stated it was "mainly young people" getting the annual flu shot, which helped explain why the coof numbers were so much worse. I think you're admitting your mistake here, admittedly in an annoyingly autistic manner, but noted.

 

[Cycleye]

The situation in India is hard to read. Before Covid days a huge number of deaths, in India, happened and were never officially registered each year. Something like approx 20% if memory serves me correctly. Alot of the covid dead will have died of something else anyway, and not registered, but now they are being counted so suddenly x amount more indians are dying than normal.
A big problem they have is that covid is big news and even in the backwaters the locals will know all about it. This is a massive problem for the hospitals as I am sure that the indians all think the world cares and they can get help and the hospitals are ready to receive them. Of course; this does mean that instead of feeling a bit rough/dying , at home , they are all travelling to the hospitals, in numbers that cannot be coped with, because they think it is going to work out.
There is going to be alot of media driven hysteria and a huge number of the people going to the hospitals, because think they are absolutely going to die if they do not, will not get terribly ill but they will definitely end up spreading it to the more vunerable. The latter might not have been infected , and then died , if there wern't so many more people spreading the virus by heading to the hospitals that are in already overly populated towns/cities.

 

[Autopsy]

Again I'm not claiming anything . It was you who stated it was "mainly young people" getting the annual flu shot, which helped explain why the coof numbers were so much worse. I think you're admitting your mistake here, admittedly in an annoyingly autistic manner, but noted.

I'm not going to go over the rest of your post because it would be reiterating things I've already told you and praying you read it this time, but I will clarify the last bit. When I said someone else claimed it first, I was referring to this post, not you:

I'm just speculating, but could the death data be somewhat to do with old people getting vaccinated? Previously, old people did not receive very many vaccines at all, but they are the most prioritized for this vaccine, especially people living in nursing homes who are already having problems by definition. Being over 80 is a pretty good predictor of death. That, in combination with increased vigilance, could explain some of the change.

The data supports this view as one factor contributing to changes in expected coincidental deaths following vaccination, as I demonstrated.

Add to this the fact that the old and infirm who are more prone to death by all causes are being vaccinated first while the Flu is mainly given to the young due to the difference in threat profile,

was absolutely an overstatement on my part, my B. I could have phrased it as "more frequently," perhaps, and I should have also better emphasized that seasonal Flu compliance has somewhat less to do with comorbidities while COVID has been very preferentially given to people with comorbidities, another potential factor.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Before Covid days a huge number of deaths, in India, happened and were never officially registered each year. Something like approx 20% if memory serves me correctly. Alot of the covid dead will have died of something else anyway, and not registered, but now they are being counted so suddenly x amount more indians are dying than normal.

What upsets me the most about all the covid dooming by the media/govt is there are other diseases that kill more people than COVID ever will. And these diseases are ignored. Like TB, which kills as many people ever has in one year. TB is rampant in cities all over the USA and the globe. Or bubonic plague which is endemic in parts of the US and all over the world. India is rife with both; even rabies kills several people every year, something that rarely happens in the US and Europe.

TB is one of the oldest diseases known yet we have no cure for it. Bubonic plague is curable in early stages but people have forgotten how to identify the symptoms of its variants so many die because they don't get treatment early enough.

All the cleaning/focus on hygiene will disappear once covid becomes endemic, like the flu, and all that will happen is it'll be added as one of the things that can kill the sick, elderly or immunocompromised.

edit: certain cases of TB can be cured but there are drug resistant strains now and its only a matter of time before its once again incurable.