Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

Will Robyn actually go back to see the neurosurgeon in California?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 12.2%

  • No

    Votes: 107 50.2%

  • Luna will die before the planned trip date

    Votes: 80 37.6%
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She's now offering to win a scholarship for her courses:
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Vi0l3t said:
I hate this new bullshit where doctors bad natural good. These women tell new scared uninformed pregnant women that they are goddesses and can do it, that medicine during birth is bad for the baby or not as an "amazing" experience. It's like a competition on who had the most natural birth lol. Also the dramatic bitches who act like they got PTSD from birth because it didnt go as planned makes me laugh every damn time.
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Deathclaw Tiddehs said:
The "doctors bad, natural good" thing is just an extension of "the experts don't know what they're talking about and I'm a free thinker" even when it is to the detriment of the person. Flat earthers and anti-modern medicine (anti-vaxxers, wannabe witches, etc) relate to degenerates who use their children as punching bags more than they would ever admit. They don't care if the people around them die, all they care about is their belief in being right. It is mildly infuriating how the Internet has become a breeding ground for these nutbags to collaborate together instead of being the social outcast weirdo that no one talks to and bullies into being normal. I love free speech, but I would be a hypocrite if I said that I don't want these people having a platform to speak from. Yet, I'm just so tired of these whack jobs preying on vulnerable people. The internet was a mistake.

Furthermore, I find it very horrifying that Robin is being enabled by the doctors giving Luna care. Even if you're a high schooler working as a nursing assistant, you learn about the Hippocratic Oath. Granted, what you learn is a footnote in chapter 1, but still. This is far beyond "do no harm" and is well into "this child is a very expensive Barbie" territory. They dress her up. They pose her. They roleplay with her. They pretend she has a voice. This lacks dignity. This is a tragedy. In several of the videos, she seems to wince in pain, such as post 691. Multiple videos in this thread, she is locked in a seizure and everyone pretends she is okay. This is a horrible existence for anyone to endure. Robin is fucked up for being a typical nutbag woo woo, but she's just a common dumbass. The nurses enabling this are even worse because they could refuse to indulge her. Robin needs a slap of reality and being enabled by her delusions is not helping her and it is not helping Luna. Unfortunately, this care is kind of semi-common to my experience in the medical field and is what led to me checking out.

Your mileage may vary, but I feel like the time I worked in the medical field is consistent with Luna's care. By my experience, we did play god with people's lives beyond their expiration date. For the average person who will live for another 30 years, this is great. For someone who is in their sunset years, this is a fate worse than death.

My patients were often treated like Luna. How they appeared to their family mattered more than their dignity. Dress up your human, make them pretty. Smile for the camera, even when your patient can only verbalize moans and can't eat on their own anymore without assistance. Help pose them because they can't move on their own. They can't wipe their own ass by themselves, make sure you do it for them. I find it hard to fathom how horrible this would be for someone all there, but trapped in their head. I would imagine this is even worse for someone who has no idea what is going on. We forced people to stay alive, because the family wished it so. If someone had an estimate 6 months or less to live, the RNs had to convince the family it was best to put someone on hospice care. All this meant was that we kept someone as comfortable as possible while we waited for them to take their last breath. Even if someone was in a potato state like Luna, it didn't mean we could force someone to be put into hospice (as far as I know). What is even worse is that someone might live beyond the 6 months we thought because the body is just as afraid of death as we are.

On a side note, my time in the medical field taught me that a surprising number of nurses are anti-modern medicine. I speculate on if this is what has partially led to the Google University graduates to feeling empowered in their shitty opinion. During my time, the amount of anti-vaxxer mommies was too damn high. The RNs were the worst about the anti-modern medicine rhetoric, but they would really only discuss it around other RNs. I caught several discussions in the break room or nursing station and they would cut the crap immediately when they realized I was there to overhear the conversation. If you played cool, you could probably get involved in the conversations, but any hint that you didn't agree and you were out. The horrifying thing was that their opinions were always from "a place of knowledge" where they used their education to form their delusional opinions. It is dangerous for everyone. I heard rumors about other nurses getting their vaccination cards signed off (but no shot administered), but by that point I had checked out before I could find any truth to the rumors.

Sorry for the lengthy power level sperg, but I hope this adds context to my thoughts.
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Ive worked in healthcare for a very long time and have too many stories to tell with these types. With my last few “holistic“ patients I’ve come to the conclusion that much of it is psychological projection by these “everyone is evil except me” types. They usually come in lacking empathy and respect for much of the clinic staff, especially the lower-level staff that they view as beneath them.

They know that if they were ever in the position of being a big pharma CEO, or Doctor with ease of access to kickbacks, they would do the things they’re projecting onto these people. They would do it, so clearly you must be doing it if you work for Pfizer or are a doctor with many visits from pharmaceutical reps. The whole best-mom and most-natural self-awards are nothing but a cover to portray themselves as innocent and victims of a massive healthcare conspiracy. I hold a similar view with the far-left, but that’s a different story.

My most memorable patient was at the beginning of the pandemic. Her email was something along the lines of “CutieVeganChick7” so I knew it was going to be bad when she came in. She was refused entry as she didn’t want us to use an infrared thermometer and wanted us to use her own personal thermometer on her to get her temperature. She caused such a scene at the entrance that our office manager let her in to be seen in order to not make our other patients uncomfortable. She refused every treatment recommended and left shouting at my assistant about “[something something] prednisone shots cause diabetes.“

She no-showed her next two follow-ups with me and I prayed she would no-show the third so we could dismiss her. She cancelled days ahead of time (which was allowed as long as it wasn’t a third consecutive no show) only to walk in three days later and demand to be seen and establish care for her child. We dont treat pediatrics and due to her outburst the manager regrettably allowed her to be seen. This visit went fine, but with the typical refusing any and all treatments. After the visit she contact my managers wife on Facebook and told her that her husband needed to be more respectful of women. She was finally dismissed for inappropriate communication.
 
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MirnaMinkoff said:
What a load of bollocks. She “finished nursing school” and took a job as a nanny? No. People get nursing degrees because their are immediate, lucrative jobs available upon graduation. It makes as much sense as some claiming they just got an engineering degree and then took a cashier job at McDonalds.

She has zero qualifications or real degrees, she’s a diploma mill and woo-certificate bullshit artist.

Reading about that “Love has Won” cult I realized Robyn would have fit in pretty well with those type of nutters. Only she would have to be Gaia, not some other crazy lady,
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I agree I don't think she actually has any degrees at all

The timing here says she finished her "senior year" at the univ of nevada in 2004/2005-ish

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But she has this grid post from 2013 where it looks like a school planner
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Idk the timing doesnt make sense for the degrees she says she has, combined with her report of 10 years of experience as a full-time nanny
 
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Jetty2maxx said:
I agree I don't think she actually has any degrees at all

The timing here says she finished her "senior year" at the univ of nevada in 2004/2005-ish

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But she has this grid post from 2013 where it looks like a school plannerView attachment 2137058

Idk the timing doesnt make sense for the degrees she says she has, combined with her report of 10 years of experience as a full-time nanny
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I think she was the classic pissing away school loans she could get her hands to “go the school”. She probably started at a real university, dropped out, worked as a nanny, then did community college courses before going on to online uni, diploma mill fantasy land stuff.

You never see her use the title or term registered dietitian- which is a board certification and what she should be if she had a real four year degree. Instead you see “nutritionist” which any idiot can call themself.
 
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SpiceyHuman said:
Dear lord, look at that TURKEY WATTLE!
No wonder she always posts photos with the same head tilt and fat girl camera angle.
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Mandowhorian said:
I'm sorry if we've covered this before, but how long would Luna have lived if she had not gotten the shunt? I just still feel so awful for them prolonging her "life".
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It is hard to say. The human body is wonderous. It keeps you from dying when you should; and it keeps you from dying when it should.
Jetty2maxx said:
I agree I don't think she actually has any degrees at all

The timing here says she finished her "senior year" at the univ of nevada in 2004/2005-ish

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But she has this grid post from 2013 where it looks like a school plannerView attachment 2137058

Idk the timing doesnt make sense for the degrees she says she has, combined with her report of 10 years of experience as a full-time nanny
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It is very possible she went to school for nursing and got her BA but never took her licensing exams and/or passed them. If she had you would be able to find her and her license number.

(I know I f*cked up posting on this thread, I am extremely new please dont rip into me over it. )
 
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Vi0l3t said:
I hate this new bullshit where doctors bad natural good. These women tell new scared uninformed pregnant women that they are goddesses and can do it, that medicine during birth is bad for the baby or not as an "amazing" experience. It's like a competition on who had the most natural birth lol. Also the dramatic bitches who act like they got PTSD from birth because it didnt go as planned makes me laugh every damn time.
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I had two “aLL nAtuRAl unMeDicaTEd“ births (due to medical necessity certainly not due to choice) and y’all know what?
It’s not magical and spiritual, it’s fucking sore, exhausting, takes fucking forever and the best bit of it is 1) here’s your baby and 2) you can have a shower now. That post birth shower is the best fucking shower you will ever have.
I did not feel like a goddess. I swore like a trooper in the Swearing Olympics because I felt like a very very angry bear.
I have no idea what people who go into this with like candles and whale music are expecting. There’s blood and a lot of people you have never seen before hovering over your vagina, and some of ‘em have big fucking scissors. The best part of the Miracle of Birth is when it’s fucking over, you are clean and taking a nice rest in bed and eating toast afterwards.
The only important thing about a birth is that it’s safe for baby and mom. The rest is irrelevant. You get that baby out however you need to.
 
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An un-medicated birth though I think is a choice no one would mind, its the we refuse to allow anything medical near us lets birth it in a pool with no oversight that people have issues with.

In researching for this I learnt there are some that give birth and wait for the child to surface on its own like its some magical creature that knows how to swim already. They stated it allows the child to choose when it leaves the confines of the womb more.

Penn & Teller's Bullshit did a great episode about this all.
 
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New to this thread but given the fact that humans have given birth unmedicated for millions of years she shouldnt be treating it like it's something special. I dont know what kind of education gave her these crazy ass beliefs but I have an inclination they didnt teach any of this.

She reeks of lies.

Luna looks like a prisoner and disturbed in every image I saw, or just plain tapped out.
 
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Jetty2maxx said:
I agree I don't think she actually has any degrees at all

The timing here says she finished her "senior year" at the univ of nevada in 2004/2005-ish

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But she has this grid post from 2013 where it looks like a school plannerView attachment 2137058

Idk the timing doesnt make sense for the degrees she says she has, combined with her report of 10 years of experience as a full-time nanny
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So she was in her senior year of college when she was 17?? Yeah it definitely doesn’t make sense.
 
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Maw said:
Ive worked in healthcare for a very long time and have too many stories to tell with these types. With my last few “holistic“ patients I’ve come to the conclusion that much of it is psychological projection by these “everyone is evil except me” types. They usually come in lacking empathy and respect for much of the clinic staff, especially the lower-level staff that they view as beneath them.

They know that if they were ever in the position of being a big pharma CEO, or Doctor with ease of access to kickbacks, they would do the things they’re projecting onto these people. They would do it, so clearly you must be doing it if you work for Pfizer or are a doctor with many visits from pharmaceutical reps. The whole best-mom and most-natural self-awards are nothing but a cover to portray themselves as innocent and victims of a massive healthcare conspiracy. I hold a similar view with the far-left, but that’s a different story.

My most memorable patient was at the beginning of the pandemic. Her email was something along the lines of “CutieVeganChick7” so I knew it was going to be bad when she came in. She was refused entry as she didn’t want us to use an infrared thermometer and wanted us to use her own personal thermometer on her to get her temperature. She caused such a scene at the entrance that our office manager let her in to be seen in order to not make our other patients uncomfortable. She refused every treatment recommended and left shouting at my assistant about “[something something] prednisone shots cause diabetes.“

She no-showed her next two follow-ups with me and I prayed she would no-show the third so we could dismiss her. She cancelled days ahead of time (which was allowed as long as it wasn’t a third consecutive no show) only to walk in three days later and demand to be seen and establish care for her child. We dont treat pediatrics and due to her outburst the manager regrettably allowed her to be seen. This visit went fine, but with the typical refusing any and all treatments. After the visit she contact my managers wife on Facebook and told her that her husband needed to be more respectful of women. She was finally dismissed for inappropriate communication.
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I've heard the saying "A birth plan means an automatic c-section." What do you think of that?
 
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hall_and_goats said:
Since I am extremely new, are there any other LOLcow or horrorcow’s that anyone could recommend I go deep diving into? Thank you in advance.
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Stephanie Cianfriglia, aka "Sapphire Crimson Claw", aka "Yarrow Brown". She/xe has a thread here. Enjoy.

Edited to add a rec for the Tard Baby General thread, from the loins of which sprung this discussion. Despite the name, there's a lot of interesting commentary and insight there. If you "like" this, you'll probably like that thread as well.
 
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