GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

ASUS seems to have pushed out a lot of RTX 2060's just recently, the online retailers here have tons of them in stock. That one and the puny GT 710's are the only cards available and there's a tenfold difference in price between them. The Ryzen 5 5600X was also available for a couple of days.

Some say that the CPU shortage is caused by people buying way more CPUs to build phat rigs due to being home all the time, but if that was the case why is there still a billion motherboards in stock everywhere?

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

ASUS seems to have pushed out a lot of RTX 2060's just recently, the online retailers here have tons of them in stock. That one and the puny GT 710's are the only cards available and there's a tenfold difference in price between them. The Ryzen 5 5600X was also available for a couple of days.

Some say that the CPU shortage is caused by people buying way more CPUs to build phat rigs due to being home all the time, but if that was the case why is there still a billion motherboards in stock everywhere?

I always thought the major blockage for AMD parts was TSMC. They're trying to build Ryzen, Navi, PS5 and Xbox all on the same process if I remember correctly. PS5 and Xbox take priority.

 

[Madre Muerte]

ASUS seems to have pushed out a lot of RTX 2060's just recently, the online retailers here have tons of them in stock. That one and the puny GT 710's are the only cards available and there's a tenfold difference in price between them. The Ryzen 5 5600X was also available for a couple of days.

Some say that the CPU shortage is caused by people buying way more CPUs to build phat rigs due to being home all the time, but if that was the case why is there still a billion motherboards in stock everywhere?

The cpu's require new architecture I assume, probably don't need so for a motherboard.

 

[DNA_JACKED]

it made sense at lan parties but no one wants to drag out a computer thats like 20 pounds to their friend's house anymore when they can just play insert popular online multiplayer video game here over the internet

It's ironic that RGB caught on and is now everywhere, yet during the days of LAN gaming RGB was unheard of. Most modern games cant even do LAN multiplayer these days.

Can I get some recommendations on what's a good motherboard for a Ryzen 5000-series CPU? I'm going to jump ship from Intel (a move long overdue) just as soon as I can scrounge up enough parts to make a computer.
I don't plan to overclock or water-cool or any of that "31337 9@m0r" stuff, I just want something that is reliable, performs fine, and ideally doesn't waste too much power. Lots of USB ports on the back is a plus.

What I'm reading on the internet ranges from "They're all the same really" to "Budget models are junk and you need an overclocker board that plugs into a dryer outlet".

Any B550 board. X570 is worthless unless you want multiple NVMe 4.0 drives. CPU OCing doesnt add anything to zen 2 or zen 3, they already get 99% of their max performance given decent cooling and enough power, and all AMD chipsets can do memory OCing.

there are also a number of good B450 boards left if you dont want PCIe 4.0.

 

[Long Tongue Silver]

So I happened to see another "Let's cram it all in" ITX design.

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I hate designs like this. Sure enough, he mentions that one of the fans developed a ticking sound which required draining the loop just to get to. It's everything wrong with modern car engineering, but now for PCs.

Edit - Wait a sec....how do those fans even breathe? That looks like a 1/2" of space between them and that block...

A lot of people get their dicks hard over cramming as much high-end hardware into the tiniest possible ITX case, but at this point you're better off just getting a gaming laptop and calling it good.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Let's catparty! A mom is upset about the GPU shortage and her son entered puberty and because there's no privacy he is locking himself in the bathroom to jerk off instead of playing Minecraft. Damn this GPU shortage!

The GPU Shortage Deepened My Existential Dread

When my teenager couldn't find a video card, he declared that everything was meaningless. Turns out, in the lonely months of quarantine, he was right.

www.wired.com

Excerpts:

The GPU Shortage Deepened My Existential Dread​

When my teenager couldn't find a video card, he declared that everything was meaningless. Turns out, in the lonely months of quarantine, he was right.

"West spent hours in the bathroom with the door locked and the fan on. When we shouted through the door to ask him to join us, he told us he wanted to be alone."

"West had grown so many inches in quarantine that he barely resembled his pre-Covid self. His voice had dropped and his feet had grown 3 sizes,"

 

[SalmaoneSlaamper]

I know that userbenchmarks (website) is deeply in love with intel crap but is it still a decent place to compare hardware for building a computer?

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I know that userbenchmarks (website) is deeply in love with intel crap but is it still a decent place to compare hardware for building a computer?

Oddly enough Notebookcheck.net is way more comprehensive for desktop GPUs.

Scroll through these RTX 2070 benchmarks and you'll see what I mean, hit the +Compare to see where it lands among other cards.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-Desktop-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.399491.0.html

 

[Madre Muerte]

Let's catparty! A mom is upset about the GPU shortage and her son entered puberty and because there's no privacy he is locking himself in the bathroom to jerk off instead of playing Minecraft. Damn this GPU shortage!


https://www.wired.com/story/gpu-shortage-existential-dread-nothing-matters/

Excerpts:

The GPU Shortage Deepened My Existential Dread​

When my teenager couldn't find a video card, he declared that everything was meaningless. Turns out, in the lonely months of quarantine, he was right.

"West spent hours in the bathroom with the door locked and the fan on. When we shouted through the door to ask him to join us, he told us he wanted to be alone."

"West had grown so many inches in quarantine that he barely resembled his pre-Covid self. His voice had dropped and his feet had grown 3 sizes,"

Retard could just go intel and get an apu, minecraft'll run on anything

 

[Dick Justice]

Let's catparty! A mom is upset about the GPU shortage and her son entered puberty and because there's no privacy he is locking himself in the bathroom to jerk off instead of playing Minecraft. Damn this GPU shortage!

The GPU Shortage Deepened My Existential Dread

When my teenager couldn't find a video card, he declared that everything was meaningless. Turns out, in the lonely months of quarantine, he was right.

www.wired.com

Excerpts:

The GPU Shortage Deepened My Existential Dread​

When my teenager couldn't find a video card, he declared that everything was meaningless. Turns out, in the lonely months of quarantine, he was right.

"West spent hours in the bathroom with the door locked and the fan on. When we shouted through the door to ask him to join us, he told us he wanted to be alone."

"West had grown so many inches in quarantine that he barely resembled his pre-Covid self. His voice had dropped and his feet had grown 3 sizes,"

This is the kind of post-ironic, avant-garde shitposting I'd expect a markov chain bot raised on a diet of buzzfeed, discord chatlogs, and /g/ bait threads to write.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Leaked specs of the 6600/6600XT.


Expect it to be priced at $629 in todays climate.

Chart of how they would compare with available cards and other rumored ones(6500, plain 6700).


The plain 6700 is interesting, I previously made a shitpost about how the size and cost of VRAM modules could result in what on a surface level looks really strange and how (Nvidia in my shitpost) might be forced to release a card with less memory that significantly outperforms the one with more memory. I think my ridiculous scenario was a 8GB 3050 vs a 6GB 3050Ti or something like that.

 

[Pissmaster]

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Ryzen 7 5800X. Is there anything I should know? Any bullshit to be aware of?

Also, I don't know a thing about coolers, I've always just used whatever's stock and don't care about overclocking, but apparently this CPU doesn't come with one. Basic bitch fan coolers are fine, right? I've never had a high end CPU before.

 

[Kosher Dill]

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Ryzen 7 5800X. Is there anything I should know? Any bullshit to be aware of?

Just that some older BIOSes don't support the Ryzen 5xxx series so you might need to update your BIOS before you install it.

An air cooler should be fine, but you might want to spring for one of the nicer ones. I'm running a 5950X with a Dark Rock Pro 4 cooler and the temperatures are perfectly reasonable.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I'm about to pull the trigger on a Ryzen 7 5800X. Is there anything I should know? Any bullshit to be aware of?

Also, I don't know a thing about coolers, I've always just used whatever's stock and don't care about overclocking, but apparently this CPU doesn't come with one. Basic bitch fan coolers are fine, right? I've never had a high end CPU before.

Unless you're mad about overclocking it's all about noise. Bigger cooler with bigger fans means less noise. A smaller fan on a smaller heatsink will have to work harder to move enough air through to keep temps down.

The Be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 2 is very inexpensive for a tower cooler(~$25) and surprisingly good. Here's a short video/review where they compare it to AMDs stock coolers in temp and noise.

 

[Fuck Y'all]

Leaked specs of the 6600/6600XT.
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Expect it to be priced at $629 in todays climate.

Chart of how they would compare with available cards and other rumored ones(6500, plain 6700).
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The plain 6700 is interesting, I previously made a shitpost about how the size and cost of VRAM modules could result in what on a surface level looks really strange and how (Nvidia in my shitpost) might be forced to release a card with less memory that significantly outperforms the one with more memory. I think my ridiculous scenario was a 8GB 3050 vs a 6GB 3050Ti or something like that.

I'm playing in Full HD, so even RX 6500 would be sufficent for me

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

I picked up a ‘budget’ gaming laptop for 700 recently, as a way to pass time playing games on lunch. It’s surprisingly capable, I legitimately thought the 1650 in it would not perform as well as it did

 

[Allakazam223]

Retard could just go intel and get an apu, minecraft'll run on anything

Speaking of APU's, I just refurbished an A10-7850k, with 16GB of 1600 ddr3. Runs okay, for what it is. Kind of low key excited to see what a 5700g can do, but Vega graphics will not be enough, imo. If they could use a Navi chip, it could be one of the better products released lately.

My local shop got all excited when I went in and asked about GPU's, tried offering me a prebuild 4600g(?) I know I live inna woods, but still. I don't live under a rock. Offering someone an APU when they ask about GPU's is kinda rude.

@Pissmaster , I've got a 3600 under a Hyper 212 Evo Black (black model comes with modern mounting) and it performs decently, for the case it's in. A case with good airflow is just as important imo. I fell for the NZXT 510 meme, and its not great.

@Smaug's Smokey Hole , I don't think the 6700 would come with 6GB only, maybe AMD is going to copy the old Nvidia style of the x60 series, with a 12gb and a 6gb. 4k ultra pulls over 9gb on RDR2, and that isn't a new game anymore. It's kind of like the RAM argument. Used to be 8gb was too much, then eventually 16gb was too much, and nowadays people say 32gb is too much. These people can afford to replace entire rigs every time a new gen comes out, and don't think about holding onto hardware for more than 6 months. Those people are the same who sold 2080ti's for $500 before 30 series was launched.

@CreamyHerman’s that is what one of my coworkers went to as well, if I didn't have a sunk cost into my PC already I'd be tempted, but I built this system specifically to be updated! The 3600 and 2060 S I have were meant to tide me over until this gen, now I'm looking at the next gen to release so that current gen parts become available.

 

[Barbigny]

I'm trying to gather together the parts for this build:

System Builder

pcpartpicker.com

Just asked for the CPU as a birthday present from my parents, and I'm already regretting it. I had an inkling of the gay shit that Intel has been involved with in recent years (IME, etc.), but I figured that AMD would have the same issues with PSP, and I was too lazy to figure out what I would need among AMD's confusing shitshow of a lineup. Learning about Bleep and Intel's other retarded initiatives and missteps as of late has really soured the whole thing for me. Oh well, at least it isn't 11th gen.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I'm trying to gather together the parts for this build:

System Builder

pcpartpicker.com

Just asked for the CPU as a birthday present from my parents, and I'm already regretting it. I had an inkling of the gay shit that Intel has been involved with in recent years (IME, etc.), but I figured that AMD would have the same issues with PSP, and I was too lazy to figure out what I would need among AMD's confusing shitshow of a lineup. Learning about Bleep and Intel's other retarded initiatives and missteps as of late has really soured the whole thing for me. Oh well, at least it isn't 11th gen.

If it's just a scratchpad it's no big deal but the price of the SSD is double what you should pay for it. Personally I feel that the really expensive motherboards isn't worth it. Features like a power button on the motherboard and a thing that posts error codes are a hardcore overclocking thing for when the computer is running on a testbench without a case so you don't have to turn it on and off with a screwdriver.
You can probably save $150 and still have a really solid board that lights up like a christmas tree when running.

 

[Barbigny]

If it's just a scratchpad it's no big deal but the price of the SSD is double what you should pay for it. Personally I feel that the really expensive motherboards isn't worth it. Features like a power button on the motherboard and a thing that posts error codes are a hardcore overclocking thing for when the computer is running on a testbench without a case so you don't have to turn it on and off with a screwdriver.
You can probably save $150 and still have a really solid board that lights up like a christmas tree when running.

I got the SSD for MSRP on Corsair's website. Pcpartpicker doesn't have it listed for that particular SSD for some reason. Still holding off on the motherboard, though. I kind of just picked a higher tier Intel-equivalent model from the AMD motherboard list on the /g/ general. Any recommendations? RGB isn't really my priority, given that I'm probably going to use an opaque case.