Lolcow Leonard F. Shaner II - Discussion Edition and Now With Less Autism (see the OP)

My guess is Hy actually is a family friend of some sort, think Rocky with a law license, and is doing this pro bono.
I can see that, and if that's the case then Hy must be the biggest fucking bro ever because Len is literally a shitstorm of legal headaches and issues waiting to happen. That and shitting on his personal Facebook account could also damage Hy's credibility, which would've probably ruined a lot of friendships right on the spot.
 
I'm not really familiar with who Hy is since I haven't really kept up with the other thread - could an intro to him be added to the OP for Kiwis unfamiliar with the Len drama?
 
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I'm not really familiar with who Hy is since I haven't really kept up with the other thread - could an intro to him be added to the OP for Kiwis unfamiliar with the Len drama?
I've added the Hy summary into the August 10th Infodump, since it's most relevant there.

I urge everyone again not to bug him until we get more evidence. This is a pretty sensitive issue.
 
Since Lenny hasn't appeared and shit up the other thread, it appears we were right and he's wisely keeping his head down. Maybe @AnOminous is right, and Hy's an old family friend. So Lenny might respect him, and possibly even listen to him. So Hy may have sat him down and patiently explained that he needed to stop doxxing people, stop impersonating people, and not talk about the case. Perhaps the judge admonished him too, and told him he'd be going to jail if he got up to any more shenanigans. However it happened, someone has the patience of a saint to break it down in a way that would get through Lenny's skull.
 
I (and I'm sure a bunch of other Kiwis) would really appreciate some kind of article/master post on Leonard. I tried keeping up with everything but I'm so far behind. I've heard talks of adding an article to the Lolcow Wiki but I haven't seen anything yet.

Can someone give me a basic rundown on this guy and why he's blown up? I'm really interested but the whole "800 pages" thing is pretty daunting.
 
I (and I'm sure a bunch of other Kiwis) would really appreciate some kind of article/master post on Leonard. I tried keeping up with everything but I'm so far behind. I've heard talks of adding an article to the Lolcow Wiki but I haven't seen anything yet.

Can someone give me a basic rundown on this guy and why he's blown up? I'm really interested but the whole "800 pages" thing is pretty daunting.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/leonard-f-shaner-jr-pedophile-foamer-shitlord.9940/

The first post is a great rundown of Shaner's antics, and this discussion thread is being updated with relevant tidbits about important events, facts and his legal case.
 
I (and I'm sure a bunch of other Kiwis) would really appreciate some kind of article/master post on Leonard. I tried keeping up with everything but I'm so far behind. I've heard talks of adding an article to the Lolcow Wiki but I haven't seen anything yet.

Can someone give me a basic rundown on this guy and why he's blown up? I'm really interested but the whole "800 pages" thing is pretty daunting.
While we wait for that article, I'd suggest having a gander at the very first post by @Zim in the main thread. In that post, I'd especially recommend you follow the links to those stories by @Gook Choy. That should give you a good idea as to why there is a lot of interest in Lenny boy.

Edit: Ninja'd by @bloodcoffee. Thanks man! :)
 
I (and I'm sure a bunch of other Kiwis) would really appreciate some kind of article/master post on Leonard. I tried keeping up with everything but I'm so far behind. I've heard talks of adding an article to the Lolcow Wiki but I haven't seen anything yet.

Can someone give me a basic rundown on this guy and why he's blown up? I'm really interested but the whole "800 pages" thing is pretty daunting.
The OP on Len contains most of the important shit about our autistic foamer shitlord, but I'll share the most important things about him right now and some highlights of him.

LEN NEED TO KNOWS
Len used to be a volunteer at the "Colebrookdale Railroad," most likely to appeal to his love of trains. However, due to incompetence, ineptitude, and his mannerisms, he was legally banned from the establishment. To this day, he believes that the Colebrookdale Railroad is running a huge conspiracy to harass him, and actually believes that people here on the Kiwi Farms are Colebrookdale Railroad Employees and that this entire forum is a front for the railroad to harass and bully him. I am not joking.

Len is the physical manifestation of the Dunning-Kruger effect. I know you could say this about a bunch of other lolcows but he has this in spades. He constantly uses sockpuppets and false community pages to harass people he doesn't like, from the Colebrookdale Railroad to us, but they are all easily identified by Len's absolutely TERRIBLE use of the English language. That being said, he will very rarely acknowledge when he is called out and will continue with his lies with a straight face even when everyone is literally just laughing at him for being delusional enough to think that anyone falls for it. He will causally say that he has links to the FBI, the government, privet instigators (his spelling of private investigators), and the mafia, and that he has informants in the railroad and here on the Kiwi Farms. One of his last messages to us was that he has informants in our very own moderator and administrator group that are feeding him information and preparing to take down this site. I am not joking.

Len is a pure, vindictive bitch. One of our Kiwis here is actually someone Len knows irl. @Pocket_Sand! is Curt, one of the many people Len shittalks on a normal basis, who originally joined as an anonymous source but outted himself rather dramatically when Len's counterharassment of us led him to berate and tease his family, to the point where he posted pictures of Curt's wife and called her a "fat whore." However, Len was scared shitless only temporarily from Curt's reveal, instead turning into a fucking spiteful bastard and harassing Curt repeatedly. Len has repeatedly put down the dox of Curt and his wife and several of his extended family, in an attempt to scare Curt by saying that Len's "sources" will get him. The harassment, in fact, became so damned obnoxious and eerily thorough that it actually led to Curt's brother-in-law getting a call at his workplace from Len, which basically led to both Curt and the topic creator (and one of the main Len trolls), @Zim, to both bow out of the topic in the hopes that it would shut Len up. However, it hasn't really had any effect, and Len, to this day, keeps posting the dox of Curt in order to scare him. I am not joking.

Piggybacking off of the above, Len has no sense of privacy nor any sense of self-respect. His primary strategy of combating the Kiwis once he was exposed and kneecapped by Null was to basically dox everyone. But, of course, he doesn't have our dox, because Len is incompetent and can't do anything right, so he did the next best thing and basically started to dox everyone that he knows. According to Len, I'm some "Stokes" man (the rest of the name omitted for his sake), and literally all of the repeat posters in the Len topic are now part of Len's life in a way that he can say that they're all part of a conspiracy. Rin, for instance, is apparently Curt's wife. Adamska? Apparently some Nathaniel guy. Zim? Uh, Bob? Jim? I dunno, Zim's gone through about four names now. Len believes that if he "exposes" our names, we will be intimidated and shamed into silence, but because he doesn't know our names, he's basically doxxing random people whose only crime is knowing and being associated with Len at some point in their lives. If you scroll through the topic, you can literally see the remnants of Len's doxxing, all censored by based Hellblazer and HSMOF. I am not joking.

LEN HIGHLIGHTS
Len shits his pants. Like, seriously. One of our most prominent Lentorians, @Gook Choy, has shared experiences of Len back when he was an employee at Sears, and one of them was how Len would literally shit his pants to get out of work. This actually came to an extremely terrifying head in a later Gook story, where a public worker that checks up on Len's mother, Gloria (who is ill and basically in need of constant aid, btw), walked in on Len, who had shit his pants, was naked aside from pantyhose, and was fucking a pillow. Len looked up to this poor woman and said "YOU'RE NOT WORKING TODAY!" which scared her off. I AM NOT JOKING.

Len has no sense of property or respect of other people's property. While working at Sears, Len found a cake in the fridge. The cake was for the baby shower for one of the workers, and was custom-made, with "baby shower" prominently marked. The Sears staff proceeded to walk in on Len halfway through eating the cake. His excuse was that it was his birthday. It gets worse. According to another one of our prominent Lentorians, @TopHat, Len once brought a shitty model locomotive to a model locomotive place, where a bunch of other kids were showing off their own, newer models. Len got spiteful and proceeded to fry one of these newer model locomotives, one that was bought with money earned by the kid. When the mother confronted Len and asked how he would pay for it, Len got mad and there was a shouting fit, and it ended when Len took the fried locomotive and smashed it, not allowing the mother to call up the warranty to have it replaced. This is not the first time he has smashed a child's model locomotive, and OH DEAR GOD I'M STILL NOT JOKING.

Len is hilariously incompetent and easy to tease. One of our own, @Kirby, started the first Doxxing Saga with Len by posing as a double agent and feeding Len dox back when Len was posing as a privet instigator to see how bafflingly idiotic Len was. Paraphrasing Kirby, he was clever and subtle at first, but got gradually more outrageous to see how much shit he could get away with before he got bored and stopped feeding Len dox because Len was apparently as smart as a fucking dust mite and fell for everything. Here is the full list, but here are some highlights:

Me - Marisa Kirisame, a fictional witch from Touhou Project

Saul Goodman - The deceased Bob Chandler

AnOnimous - Ian Brandon Anderson, "guilty of identity theft"

WireSponge - Connor Bible

The_Doctor - Gregory House (yes, the cynical doctor who's always right)

Kirby - Johnny "Jiggle" E. Puff

BlueArmedDevil - Buzz Lightyear

Holy Buttocks - Samus Aran

In general, the guy's a fucking idiot and I would not have sex with him.
 
Here's a feels pillow.
I hope you didn't let Len anywhere near it.

Also, nice writeup on the situation. Although I'm curious where the pedo accusation comes from as I haven't really kept up with the Len thread either.

Also, IIRC, Len likes trains to the point where he thinks people can only have one hobby or interest, and to him, it's trains.
I mentioned this a few times before, but I used to have "Token Hispanic Friend" as my subtitle (a reference to what ADF would call the people of Hispanic heritage on the farms), and Len thought I was "Ricardo WC" of Mexico.
 
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The first courtroom field report of Len's legal saga is now in: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/leona...ile-foamer-shitlord.9940/page-790#post-893287

TL;DR - Hy is batshit and is trying to demonstrate in a real life court of law that Kiwi Farms is conspiring to sully Shaner's good name.
 
LEN INFO DUMP #2, THE HOLY SHIT THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING EDITION
@millais has already posted the Kirby dump, but for the sake of completion it'll be reposted here:
"Fear not fellow Kiwi's. I, P. Pufferton, was there for the hearing and wow... just wow. A hearing normally takes about 20 to 30 minutes max so I stupidly didn't bring any paper to take notes figuring it was going to be short and sweet. This wasn't the case at all. This hearing took a little over 2 hours and was worth the price of admission. Let's begin.

I arrived at the court house in Pottstown, PA around 8, and walked in. It's a very nice old train station that's been re-purposed as a legal building. The inside was pretty spartan and was a light color blue. I found the 3 witnesses and Curt already there and introduced myself. Shaner was also there sitting away from everyone with his elderly mother. The witnesses were led into a conference room and we had some general small talk and how it looked like Shaner was representing himself. A few minutes later the witnesses came back out and Len was overheard talking to an official how he had Hy as his legal counsel and that he was doing the case for free. The official said something to the effect of "I'm not sure this is going to work." and we gave each other a bunch of confused looks and speculated how maybe he was just saying this and might still be defending himself. This was about 8:10.

Then, as you all know by now, Mayerson shows up and we are all collectively blown away. Hy is a shorter gentleman with grey hair and very old. You guys have seen the photos so I'll spare the details. Anyway, him and Shaner went into the conference room and the train guys and myself gossiped about how crazy this might get. Curt started getting calls from people and had to leave to move freight cars at the rail yard (This is important later). A few minutes later they came out and it was announced that the hearing was about to begin and anyone who wanted to observe should enter the courtroom. I got up and went into the court room all by myself.... guys..... :P

The courtroom also blue and was very typical a seat for a judge, witness, defendant, and prosecutor along with two rows of seats for interested parties which in this case was myself and Shaners mom. We sat in the first row with her at one end and myself at the other. Shaner and Hy entered as did the judge, the prosecuting officer, and stenographer. Proceedings then began.

BTW SenHy noticed me sitting in the court room by myself and came up to see why I was there. I told him I was a reporter. He asked with who and I said "The Onion" and that I was a friend of Curt since he had already seen me sitting and talking with him.

Preston was the first witness and he easily got the worst of it. For the first 15 minutes or so it was a very normal proceeding with Hy asking questions about property lines, right of way, and where Preston was when he was allegedly filming Shaner trespassing. At this point I thought Hy was not crazy and might be a legit good lawyer. This was about to change dramatically! After it was proven that Len was in fact on rail road property Hy changed his tune... a lot. He pulled out a stack of screen caps from the Kiwi Farms, walked up to Preston, and asked if he knew about the this forum. Preston said he didn't and Hy then asked if he posted as Cumrobbery. Yes. He said "cum robbery" in a court room. I'll be honest, I had a hard time containing my laughter at this point. However I managed to not bust up laughing so it was all good. Preston said he was aware of the Kiwi Farms but had only gone to read when he discovered Len had posted his dox here. At this point Hy then went back and questioned about the video Preston made of Shaner trespassing. However, this was limited to asking stupid stuff such as what kind of phone he owned, who his provider was, and when the FBI got involved would he be comfortable turning all his devices over to them to prove he wasn't on the Farms. At this point the Judge got involved and said how this had nothing to do with the case where as Hy began quoting legal stuff about how Preston could be charged as a domestic terrorist. Again, nearly started laughing my ass off. The judge, who by the way is pretty bad ass looking, starts yelling at Hy a little bit because Hy's being really dumb and submitting evidence that has no bearing on the case. At this point Hy pointed right at me and said "Mr. McEvoy, do you know this man? He said he's a reporter for The Onion and is a friend of Curt's". The judge looked over at me and I sort of did a half ass wave. Preston confirmed he didn't know me. After that Hy presented a few more screen shots of this thread and the judge started getting mad to the point where I thought Hy might get ejected from the room. But he didn't and after 3 standard questions from the prosecutor Preston left the stand and took a seat 5 or 6 over from me. Preston took over an hour. I was scared at this point with 2 more witnesses to go that I was going to be there for 3 hours or more. I got other shit I had to do today.

George (the one who smashed Shaner in the face with the lantern) was up next and Hy switched tactics. For about 20 minutes Hy exclusively tried to get George mad by saying how there was no way he could have seen Shaner from where he was located on the train by using Shaner's own photos that were clearly taken within 10 feet of the track. George got a little ruffled and when he did Hy said "Oh, it looks like you might have something to hide with you huffing and puffing up there." I'm not kidding that's very close to what he said to George. The judge heard this and stopped that shit pretty fast. Hy then insinuated that the Palladino (the judge) didn't know how to do his job. This didn't sit well with the judge and again Hy almost got ejected. After that the prosecution asked about 3 question that actually had something to do with Shaner's trespassing and endangerment charges. Then George stepped down and took a seat next to Preston.

Finally, the dashing rogue, Bob, commander of the tracks took the stand. Hy switched gears yet again, this time focusing on Bob's credibility as an engineer. However, he first started off by accusing Bob of being Anominous on the Kiwi Farms. Bob said he reads the farms regularly but never posts (Hi Bob!) and found it when Shaner posted his dox here. Hy then started asking about Bob's training and if he was actually qualified as an engineer which has no bearing on this case BTW. Then Hy got even stranger and asked where his training was, if he had certified himself because his license was based out of a rail road he owns (Bob got certified at another line he didn't own), to prove he was an engineer. Hy didn't prepare at all because he didn't know anything about railroading when he came into this. He didn't know what the FRA was, what the CFR was, or how engineers and conductors are certified. As a side note Bob was staring directly into Hy's eyes this entire time and Hy was kinda backing down from it.

The judge had been interrupting Hy on a regular basis in this hearing and by this point was quite sick of all of this. So Hy finished his line of weird questioning and the prosecution told how they had proven that there was enough evidence to take this to trial.

The prosecution got about half way through this final argument when Hy suddenly jumped up and said "There's one more person I'd like to question today!". I was a bit nervous since I was the only person in this room besides Shaner's mom but it wasn't me! He turned around and walked toward the door and said "I'd like to call Curt to the stand!" He then went out into the waiting room and called out Curt's name repeatedly. Of course, Curt had been gone for an hour at least because he had work. I turned to SenHy and said "I don't think he's here anymore. I think he went to work." Hy then looked at me, smiled, and winked and went back to Shaner's table. (As far as I know you can't pull a Perry Mason and call surprise witnesses like that. Not being a lawyer I'd need confirmation though.) Everyone could tell that Hy and Shaner were fuming over this. Shaner had actually brought 2 entire envelopes of screen shots from the Kiwi Farms into court. I think they expected to use Curt as their ace in the hole to prove the Lenspiracy. It was pretty funny.

So finally the final arguments were concluded with all charges proven as valid and going to PA common pleas as you all know by now. As we were leaving the court room Hy got in an argument with the judge about Shaner not having to fill out bail forms. The judge got mad and told him either Shaner can fill it out himself or he would just ask Shaner the info. After that we all left.

It was a huge circus or as they call it in the legal community, a cluster fuck. I'm not even a lawyer and I know that 90% of what Hy was presenting was batshit insane. This brings me to 2 possible conclusions about Hy Mayerson.

A) Hy has bought into the Lenspiracy hook line and sinker.

B) Hy hates Leonard Shaner and is doing this pro bono so that he can get Shaner the maximum sentence possible by purposely being a fucking nut job. He didn't help Shaner's case at all. In fact I think he actually made it worse by pissing off the judge.

So there you have it. That's what I remember about this morning. I'd like to add that because of the length of the hearing that Shaner missed at least 4 fudges."

-Secret Pinkington Pufferton II

@Kirby's disclaimer:
I'd like to clarify that this was sent to me, I wasn't actually there.

This was transmitted via electronic mail by our good friend [Redacted] a.k.a. Secret Pinkington Pufferton II.

Semper Fi to all our armed [Redacted] a.k.a. Secret Pinkington Pufferton II

The debut of @PropaneAccesories, one of the w.eens behind the Len pages:
Hello Kiwi's. Nice to meet you all.

I've been lurking in the Shaner thread since it began, and I've lurked on the Kiwi Farms in general for much longer. With the shit hitting the fan with Lenny's hearing today, I figured it was time to finally make an account and weigh in.

First thing's first, I owe you guys a full disclosure: I'm the w-een who's been in contact with Shaner for the last few weeks. I'm not an Entersperg, and I don't have a hard on for Null (that, and the whole "Clara" thing was basically the result of some other Cool Guy pointing Len to Null's ED article and Len deciding to make it part of his "war on the Kiwi"). At first I decided to contact Len purely as a laugh with a fake FB account I've been using since 2010 to spy on some personal lolcows. I didn't expect to actually become his close confidant, but, much like @Kirby can probably attest to, Len apparently doesn't ever learn and so I imagine my surprise when he opened up to me anyway.

I have a whole bunch of stuff I'd like to show you guys, but it's going to take a while to compile it into a state organised enough to release here. That said, I do have some basic details that I feel are worth sharing at the moment.

1. The Internet Bullies page is Len's, the Taking Down Kiwis one is mine. Basically, Len got banned from posting on FB in late July for 30 days, and he thought making a new page would circumvent that, so I made the Taking Down Kiwis page for him and handed it over to him. Most of the posts on both of these pages are either made by James Kaufmann Jr or John W Simon (who are both admins) or were given to me by Lenny himself to paste verbatim. I did make some posts myself, notably the "share a Coke with Bob" one, which was an attempt to see how obviously w-eenish I could be before Lenny noticed I was taking him for a ride, but he's so dense that even these posts failed to ring any alarm bells for him.

2. The Webs page is, as far as I know, Lenny's. I have a bunch of messages from him where he mentions that he and a friend were working on a website that would "bring the Kiwi down once and for all". My personal theory is that either Kaufmann or another Cool Guy were helping him make it, because based on my conversations with Lenny, I can't see him knowing how to use Webs at all.

3. Apparently a whole network of w-eens are in contact with Lenny, and this is the source of much of the doxxing of RR people and their relatives. Over the last few weeks, Len mentioned many such informants and showed me all of the evidence they were feeding him, mainly consisting of shopped FB conversations between Zim and @Pocket_Sand! or obviously fake legal documents. Occasionally Lenny would ask me to help him verify the truth of some of this evidence (usually just by asking me if I'd ever heard of "such and such on the Kiwi") and he claimed that he was doing some degree of research before doxxing people, but 99% of the time he would end up accepting this stuff as true anyway. Basically, all it takes to get him to believe you is to confirm the suspicions he already has; anything that valudates what he's already thinking will usually be accepted as accurate.

4. He's become obsessed with the Kiwi Farms to the point where he legitimately believes he's at "war" with them and that there's a whole network of RR people and others from his life who've set up the Kiwi Farms just to play with him. He kept saying to me how he "just wanted his life back" and constantly claimed that he was innocent of the charges he's been dragged to court over. He seemed to me to be either a sociopath who doesn't mind lying through his teeth or else he's delusional and genuinely believes there's a conspiracy out to ruin his good name. This probably ties in to how he submitted Kiwi Farms screencaps at his hearing - Len believes if he can just prove that there's a conspiracy working against them then he'll be acquitted of all his charges. Also, I live in Australia and I'd constantly receive messages from Lenny in the mid afternoon, so I can confirm that he does seem to stay up until the small hours of the morning fuming about "the Kiwi" and trying to find ways to bring the site down.

5. Len is extremely fucking creepy and has no concept of women as anything other than sex objects. The only times he wasn't talking about Kiwi Farms was when he tried to hit on my fake FB account, ask her what she liked to wear to bed, ask for her bust measurements or beg for pictures of her boobs or whatever. At one point, he asked for an email address so we could "talk in privet" (he believes that a member of Kiwi Farms is a "FB district manager" who can monitor our conversations) and when I gave him a fake email he took two initials from it, ran them through some kind of search engine and then became convinced that I was this random girl from Arizona who I've never heard of before. It was when he began to talk about meeting up in person or how he couldn't wait to introduce me to his mother that I decided it was time to pull out, because it was only a matter of time before he contacted said girl and started creeping on her.

6. From what I can tell, Hy Mayerson seems just as gullible as Len when it comes to making conspiracies out of nothing. Over the entire course of my correspondence with Len, he told me that Hy wished to speak to me to verify information exactly twice. At which point I'd tell him that I'd work it out later and then he'd forget and submit said evidence to Hy anyway which, based on @Kirby's fine account of the hearing, seems to have been accepted without any real attempt to verify its accuracy.

And that's all for now.

It's nice to meet you all. Have a picture of Len dressed in his best for his hearing yesterday.

Kengle joins the fight:
Also, I was just going through my messages from Lenny to try and organise them, and I just noticed that he's gone to war with Kengle.

Len Behind the Scenes:
Here's an example of the lengths Lenny goes to when trying to verify if his dox are accurate before posting them.

Finally, some random screens of Lenny trying to win "Sara" over.

EDIT: I should also point out, as evidenced in one of these shots, that talking about trains made Lenny start talking about getting kinky.

That was something that occurred to me too, that I'm basically his equivalent of Julay or something. That's a horrifying thought.

Here's some more random Lenny shit. For some reason he likes to draw pictures of his parents.

More stuff for you guys. Sorry it's so dis-organised, but there's a lot to go through. The photograph of him in the engineer get-up was sent to me as "proof" that he drove trains for the Colebrookdale.

The following images are a record of when Len decided to resort to posting blatantly false info to "scare" the Farms because he thought using the name "Clara"would get a rise out of Null. His logic for posting this false info was that he was infecting the Kiwi Farms with what he calls a "mental virus".

Also, some other w-een told him I was @Dynastia, so notice that he was asking me to post some of this info directly in his thread.

@Saul Goodman weighs in (emphasis added by me):
With the proviso that I was not there (but I have the same source as Kirby and find him to be entirely believable), the events described would suggest yes.

This sort of behavior is absolutely beyond the pale. I have never witnessed (or even heard about) a member of the bar doing something even qualitatively similar. Only the most "memorable" pro se litigants ever approach this sort of crazy.

I remember now (in hindsight) that the younger Mayerson was careful to clarify that Hy was no longer with the firm.

In addition to the hilarious aspect, this has also become somewhat depressing for a lawyer approaching middle age.

Fair point. I should have clarified: A graduate of an ABA-accredited law school in a criminal trial proceeding (appellate briefs are often -- perhaps by necessity -- a bit out there).

Orly went to a CA correspondence school whose grads are only eligible to sit for the CA bar.

Also, while her "birther" filings were hilariously unhinged, she didn't actively go "off the rails" in open court. I'm sure others have done similar things in criminal trial proceedings, but I honestly can't remember ever hearing about something this nuts.

Also, let me second @waffle in responding to those who suggest that Hy's difficulties stemmed from not being "the right kind of lawyer."

Anyone who's passed the first year of law school (or heck, watched a season of Law and Order -- as horribly unrealistic as that show is) could do a better job. All you have to do is not spin insane conspiracy theories, tell your client to shut up, and take the slap on the wrist (until this stunt the probability of Lennay facing any meaningful consequence was effectively zero).

tl;dr If you guys wanted your autistic spaz attacks but Chris-chan turned out to be too sane and Nick Bate turned out to be mellow when he realized he was brought into court, worry no longer, because this is actually happening. Len and Hy have gone straight off the deep end and this is going to going to go nowhere but down.

Hy Mayerson may not deserve his own lolcow thread, but the disclaimer on not bothering him is no longer valid. If you wanted to sink your teeth into lawyer lolcow, go ahead. I want to know if Hy is legitimately this dumb or if we missed something absolutely hilarious.

We have a new Lentorian, @PropaneAccesories, who confirms that Len has a literal network of w.eens that are going around being unfunny dumbasses, but most of the content that's been posted on the pages has been verified by both Len and Hy. The whole idea of an Entersperg or a disgruntled ex-Kiwi fueling some of the past doxxing isn't out of the window yet, but Len's been more involved than we'd been expecting. Also, Propane isn't involved with any thorough doxxing. Don't jump down his throat, guys.

Also, I know that the mods absolutely despise Len and this thread because of the autism that it generates, but if they wouldn't mind, could they possibly feature it or at least this discussion topic briefly, because I think this is the first and legitimately only time that we will ever see a lolcow go full out Conspiratard Lolcow in a fucking court of law. Chris was smart enough to not do it, and Nick Bate was smart enough to not do it, but Len and Hy literally asked someone if he was cum robbery. This will probably never happen again.

Guys, get your popcorn, your tequila, and a cleared September 30. We thought we reached the end of the rabbit hole, but it just opened into a fucking network of spergatory.

Side side afternote, but Propane is posting a lot of content even as I type this. It would be a bit of a pain to go and copypaste every single new post that he puts up, so for the time being if you're interested just search @PropaneAccesories in the Len thread and look up all of his posts. He's doing mostly infodumping.
 
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tl;dr If you guys wanted your autistic spaz attacks but Chris-chan turned out to be too sane and Nick Bate turned out to be mellow when he realized he was brought into court, worry no longer, because this is actually happening. Len and Hy have gone straight off the deep end and this is going to going to go nowhere but down.

Hy Mayerson may not deserve his own lolcow thread, but the disclaimer on not bothering him is no longer valid. If you wanted to sink your teeth into lawyer lolcow, go ahead. I want to know if Hy is legitimately this dumb or if we missed something absolutely hilarious.

We have a new Lentorian, @PropaneAccesories, who confirms that Len has a literal network of w.eens that are going around being unfunny dumbasses, but most of the content that's been posted on the pages has been verified by both Len and Hy. The whole idea of an Entersperg or a disgruntled ex-Kiwi fueling some of the past doxxing isn't out of the window yet, but Len's been more involved than we'd been expecting. Also, Propane isn't involved with any thorough doxxing. Don't jump down his throat, guys.

Also, I know that the mods absolutely despise Len and this thread because of the autism that it generates, but if they wouldn't mind, could they possibly feature it or at least this discussion topic briefly, because I think this is the first and legitimately only time that we will ever see a lolcow go full out Conspiratard Lolcow in a fucking court of law. Chris was smart enough to not do it, and Nick Bate was smart enough to not do it, but Len and Hy literally asked someone if he was cum robbery. This will probably never happen again.

Guys, get your popcorn, your tequila, and a cleared September 30. We thought we reached the end of the rabbit hole, but it just opened into a fucking network of spergatory.

Side side afternote, but Propane is posting a lot of content even as I type this. It would be a bit of a pain to go and copypaste every single new post that he puts up, so for the time being if you're interested just search @PropaneAccesories in the Len thread and look up all of his posts. He's doing mostly infodumping.

I question how insane Hy really is (outing the Farms and calling out poor cum robbery in court aside). As in, does one really need to w.een out on him, or is he arrogant/insane enough to allow for an 'interview' or request messages passed to us?

I guess once the dust from today settles and Len waddles back to start shitposting again we'll probably find out.
 
I'm not saying we should go all :julay: now, but Hy's recent shenanigans warrant a secomd look over. This is clearly not the work of a... sane man, and it's something to look into. If Hy isn't serious, he's literally setting himself up to be a total laughingstock and disgrace, so this warrants at least some investigation.

No shit is too minor and whatnot.
 
I question how insane Hy really is (outing the Farms and calling out poor cum robbery in court aside). As in, does one really need to w.een out on him, or is he arrogant/insane enough to allow for an 'interview' or request messages passed to us?

I guess once the dust from today settles and Len waddles back to start shitposting again we'll probably find out.
Please do NOT try to actually get in contact with Hy. He's not real stable, he doesn't seem to understand the internet very well, and he's prone to legal dramatics. I can totally see him threatening someone with a lawsuit just for fucking with him online. It's not worth it.
 
Anyone considering getting a transcript? The agent mentioned a stenographer being present, so there's probably a recording of some sort. Might not be worth it, at something like a buck a page or more for tard rage, but may be worth getting an estimate. Whoever did it would have to deal with the court and/or stenographer.
 
Anyone considering getting a transcript? The agent mentioned a stenographer being present, so there's probably a recording of some sort. Might not be worth it, at something like a buck a page or more for tard rage, but may be worth getting an estimate. Whoever did it would have to deal with the court and/or stenographer.

I checked out the order form (info is on the last page here, and somewhere in the other thread). The order form says that sharing the info without consent isn't legal (or something to that effect), I dind't know if that meant making copies, including digital ones, or what. I figured we could ask you, or someone familiar with Pennsylvania law what can be shared, just so everything's done by the book.

So, what are the rules for that? Just because I'd like everything to be above board if I, or anyone, is picking up a copy.
 
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