Lolcow Leonard F. Shaner II - Discussion Edition and Now With Less Autism (see the OP)

As a side note - I STRONGLY ADVISE that we do not give Hy his own thread. Not only would there not be much in the way of content, I don't want some over-excited lawyer threatening to sue us or something. Yes, I know it would be a pointless, stupid lawsuit, but it's still not worth it. Plus, he doesn't exactly supply regular content, so it wouldn't even be worth a good thread.
 
I'm not at all doubting that Hy is in fact this insane, but this is just surreal to me. Even if he is going senile, part of me is just saying that there's no way that someone that somehow managed to become a lawyer, and a fairly decent one at that, has somehow mentally deteriorated to the point where he'll blindly roll with the Lenspiracy like this.

I mean, I know I've said this already and it's getting repetitive, but holy fuck.

On a side note, whether it's Kaufman, Hy, or Len posting those dox, the fact that those pages are attributed to Len basically means that most people would probably pin the blame on Len, so it's great to see that Len couldn't even last more than two days before returning to his usual shenanigans. That's our Len!

Len Doxxing Saga Round 3, because For Fuck's Sake Whyyyyyyy
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Guys?

@PropaneAccesories ?
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Both have "Sara" in their names = must be the same person. Len's autism knows no bounds.

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totally fake amirite
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ONE TALKING TO "CURT" IN THIS TOTALLY-NOT-DOCTORED SCREENCAP
WE KNOW
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As a side note - I STRONGLY ADVISE that we do not give Hy his own thread. Not only would there not be much in the way of content, I don't want some over-excited lawyer threatening to sue us or something. Yes, I know it would be a pointless, stupid lawsuit, but it's still not worth it. Plus, he doesn't exactly supply regular content, so it wouldn't even be worth a good thread.
I think that the important distinction to draw between Len & Co. and other cows that have had their own friends that have aided them in their retardation, such as the infamous Phil or basically anyone from Tumblr, is that Hy and Kaufman are, in the end, extensions of Len. They're both parroting the same insane dribble that he is, albeit in their own manners, and are basically affected by anything that happens to Len. If Len wasn't here, these two would not be as spastic as they are now.

Although I do think that the OP now needs to go into detail on Hy and Kaufman because I think these guys are going to be playing a bigger role in the Lenspiracy now that we've identified two of Len's butt buddies.
 
As a side note - I STRONGLY ADVISE that we do not give Hy his own thread. Not only would there not be much in the way of content, I don't want some over-excited lawyer threatening to sue us or something.

He kind of already has, but otherwise agreed. His only bovine behavior so far is being associated with another cow.
 
No need to overthink who Flxible was. If it was Kaufman, Hy or a :ween:, that person managed to do nothing by coming here, shitpost and get banned. There was little to that incident other than a small smile.

Also, Hy is senile, his mind isn't what it used to be so he might be a bit weird sometimes but I see no reason to make a thread, investigate him or anything. Even if he manages to come here and read what we're writing, the worst case scenario is that our posts are printed and probably read for shit and giggles and then dismissed.

As for the current group of :ween:s couching Len; so far they have little to do, they've been doing the same thing for days now (false doxxing), so I wouldn't worry about them either.
The only thing we can expect to happen, is to see Len sperging from time to time in his FB until the next court date. The other pages opened by his :ween:s are just boring and trying too hard as bait so I find no reason we keep paying those any attention, if the monkey want my attention, they must try with a different dance or song.
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In the light of Hy revealing himself to be a bit of a lolcow in his own right, and a new understanding into how Shaner manipulates other people (Kaufman, w-eens, Hy) into posting stuff for him, I thought I'd share something of interest.

It does appear that, despite what we like to believe, Len possesses at least some very basic understanding that what he's doing isn't helping him, and he certainly seems to be aware that all this doxxing shit will come back and bite him in the ass at some point.

Here's a message from Len asking me to dox Null for him on Taking Down Kiwis:
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You'll notice he specifically says "Post this on the take down page only." This isn't unique to this message - he actually did this quite a lot, particularly with stuff relating to Null or Curt or other people who I guess he thought probably might have some kind of case against him. Even though he had given me control of all of his pages, he would explicitly request sensitive info be posted on Taking Down Kiwis only, because it wasn't "his" page, in the sense that even though he was an admin of it and fully endorsed it, he didn't actually make it. In Len's mind, he was deliberately covering his tracks so if any of this came back to bite him, he'd be able to say "that's not my page, it wasn't me".

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In the light of Hy revealing himself to be a bit of a lolcow in his own right, and a new understanding into how Shaner manipulates other people (Kaufman, w-eens, Hy) into posting stuff for him, I thought I'd share something of interest.

It does appear that, despite what we like to believe, Len possesses at least some very basic understanding that what he's doing isn't helping him, and he certainly seems to be aware that all this doxxing shit will come back and bite him in the ass at some point.

Here's a message from Len asking me to dox Null for him on Taking Down Kiwis:
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You'll notice he specifically says "Post this on the take down page only." This isn't unique to this message - he actually did this quite a lot, particularly with stuff relating to Null or Curt or other people who I guess he thought probably might have some kind of case against him. Even though he had given me control of all of his pages, he would explicitly request sensitive info be posted on Taking Down Kiwis only, because it wasn't "his" page, in the sense that even though he was an admin of it and fully endorsed it, he didn't actually make it. In Len's mind, he was deliberately covering his tracks so if any of this came back to bite him, he'd be able to say "that's not my page, it wasn't me".

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Random question - was Len the one Shirou talked to, or someone else imitating his typing?
 
can someone explain the thing with the lantern? i can't find any refs in masterposts to it.
 
can someone explain the thing with the lantern? i can't find any refs in masterposts to it.

On the 4th of July Len went out to photograph the fireworks and festivities. He seems to have gotten too close to the railroad. He says he was in a parking lot, they say he was too close. His story is someone started shit with him, threw a punch, he blocked it and knocked them down, or he blocked it and walked away (he's told it two different ways). The story we heard, not from him, is that he took a swing, and got a latern to the head for his troubles. I'll let you decide which version is true.
 
Alright, guys. Since this is the Discussion thread and most people who don't spend all their time following the antics of an autistic foamer refer to it to figure out the insanity that is Len, I figured I would put down a brief description of a couple of people associated with Len and their significance to all of this insanity, and a couple of in-jokes and other shenanigans that Len likes to post on his Facebook pages and what the autism all means. Think of this as Len's very own CWCism/People of Interest post. If anyone asks about anything Len-related that isn't covered here, I'll probably add it in for clarification.

LEN'S COMPENDIUM OF AUTISM

Hy Mayerson - Due to the insanity that was the trial, I only found it fitting that I start this with the man that basically reignited a huge interest in the Len topic. Hy Mayerson is Len's representing lawyer in all of this nonsense. Earlier in the thread, Hy's Facebook account was posting dox and antagonizing the Farms. While initially suspected as a sock, as Len loves his socks, we had people who looked at Hy's Facebook and confirm as legitimate. People then began to think that Len had hijacked Hy's account, either through hacking it, spoofing it, or simply using it when Hy wasn't looking. Len had also claimed, during this time, that Hy was his lawyer. As Hy's specialty wasn't civil cases, people called Len out on his bullshit, and @Saul Goodman eventually contacted the Mayerson firm. He got a confirmation that the firm itself was not covering Len's cases and that Hy was not associated with the Mayerson firm. As you all now know, Hy made his reappearance in August 10, after most of us had forgotten him, basically doing the mother of all autism spaz attacks and using the Kiwi Farms as evidence of a "conspiracy," testing the patience of the judge, the witnesses, and the ability of the jury and viewing audience to not laugh hysterically. Hy later reappeared as @Flxible, a sock who tried to go incognito among us, failed, and was subsequently banned.

James Kaufman - One of Len's few friends (as surprising as it is that he does have friends). While slightly more coherent than Len, he's still very spastic and, if sources to be believed, he's also a full believer of the Lenspiracy. He has been confirmed to have posted in the Internet Bullies and Taking Down Kiwi Farms Facebook pages, and it is speculated that he may have used the old Knight Rider and Photographer accounts. However, aside from knowing that he has posted shit on the Facebook pages, he has never directly addressed us as Kaufman, instead posing as Len or one of Len's sockpuppets, making it extremely easy for the two to be interchanged. The only real difference that one can use to distinguish one from another is that they both have very different ways of being completely spastic and terrible with the English language, but it's all autism anyway so don't strain your head trying to figure it out.

The Knight Rider/Photographer - Len's official first contact with Kiwi Farms. Posing as a "privet instigator," a FBI agent, an agent of the government, a photographer, and several other aliases that I am far too lazy to hunt down, Len initially tried to dismiss all of the rumors about him as false, before directly accusing everyone on the Farms of being people from Colebrookdale Railroad. This was the first time we encountered these accusations and "doxxings," and it certainly wouldn't be the last. Knight Rider was the primary mouthpiece of Len for the First Doxxing Saga, while Photographer was a short-lived alias that Len used sporatically. Most of Len's most noteworthy posts were made on his main account (still active on the Farms) and Knight Rider (KIA).

The First Doxxing Saga - While there isn't exactly a concrete timeline for Len ala Chris, I feel that I should highlight certain events that occurred in the topic as they were the source of many lulz. The first of Len's autistic spaz attacks was the Doxxing Saga, perpetuated by our very own Kiwi, @Kirby, posing under the full proof Facebook alias... Curr Bee (master of disguise, ain't ya?). The full list can be found here. The most important things to glean from this is that Len has a worldview comparable to Golden Age Chris-chan (doxxing people unironically as Marisa Kirisame, Gordon Freeman, Samus Aran, and our very own OPL) and that he is insanely gullible. Kirby approached Len as a double agent of the Farms and initially used subtle doxxings to take the piss out of Len, but as you can tell if you go down the list, the dox became more and more blatantly troll. Kirby explains this as him losing interest and learning that Len was insanely easy to fool if you play into his delusions. This doxxing saga came to an end when Kirby grew bored and stopped sending him dox, along with outting himself publicly in the thread. While Len has counted @Kirby the Kiwi and Curr Bee the informant both as enemies and spies of the Farms, he has not since learned to not be spastic and trust anyone that gives him the time of day.

@Kirby - Give him a shoutout, guys. Perpetrator of the First Doxxing Saga and a former deep agent... several times, in fact. Kirby's known aliases have been Curr Bee, a double agent feeding Len his dox in the First Doxxing Saga, and Parker Lee, an Asian female reporter who befriended Len.

@Pocket_Sand! - irl known as "Curt," he joined us as one of the first Lentorians, posting anonymously about Len's antics in the Colebrookdale Railroad. While he at first continued his anonymity when Len made first contact with the Farms, Len continually provoked Curt with doxxing of himself and of his wife, along with personal insults. This came to a head when Curt decided to publicly out himself on another sockpuppet account (whose name I cannot find atm, sorry 'bout that guys, I'M WORKING ON IT I'll fix that later). This was extremely surprising because, while we did have contacts that were speaking with Curt, no one actually knew he was on the Farms, actually posting among us, until he came out and said it. Curt's outbursts were... rather passionate and eye-catching, leading to some silence from our favorite little Len. Len returned in full force, however, and knowing that Curt is legitimately on the Farms, Curt is the target of many doxxings. Due to continual harassment to himself and his extended family, Curt, as well as the OP of the topic and one of our contacts (that also actively engaged with Len), @Zim, both resigned from the topic in an attempt to lose Len's interest. While this has generally been ineffective because Len is a spaz and an asshole, most of Curt's doxxings are either on a Facebook page no one reads but us or are censored the minute they hit the Farms. If you're reading this, Curt, hope Len's stopped calling your family. And if he does personally call your house, tell him personally from me that he's a faggot.

Bob - Full name redacted for personal reasons. Bob is one of the former employees of the Colebrookdale Railroad that Len has a... colorful history with, and several Kiwis have been accused of being Bob. The longest holder of the Bob title, @Zim, was routinely bombarded with dox and accusations from Len, to which Zim replied by generally laughing and calling Len a faggot, the only real response that's worth doing. When confronted at the trial by Hy, Bob has confirmed that he does read us but does not actually post among us. We do hope that Len leaves Bob the fuck alone once this trial is concluded. If you're reading this, Bob, we got your back.

The Throttling - A bit after the First Doxxing Saga concluded, Len returned with another string of doxxes, including one that was... particularly significant. It was significant because it was the doxxing of our Dear Leader, Null. As it turns out, Len had gotten popular in the time since the First Doxxing Saga, and some w.eens had began to feed him some troll dox to both fuck with him and fuck with us. This is particularly significant because, as it stands, Null and the other mods don't really care much for Len, and at the very worst actually hate the thread because of all the autism and doxxing that needs to be modded. With Len being particularly autistic and, of all things, deciding to directly antagonize Null, Null decided to remind Len who had the leverage here on the site that he owns and throttled Len's IP, ensuring that any attempts that Len makes to access the Farms feels like he's trying to connect to us from Antarctica. This particularly slowed the pace of the thread down, as it would normally gain 10 to 30 pages a day because Len has no job or no life and feels the need to bug us all the fucking time. Because Len couldn't access us as readily, he showed a significant decrease of activity in the Farms, which mercifully saved our mods' livers. However, this leads into...

The Second Doxxing Saga - With a now-confirmed network of w.eens at his back and his connection throttled on the Farms, Len turned to Facebook, continuing more doxxing of us through the pages Internet Bullies and Taking Down Kiwi Farms. This was different in that these doxxes were primarily people in the Colebrookdale Railroad or related to the Colebrookdale Railroad, Len's attempt to consolidate the Lenspiracy to people that he could readily confirm and attack, along with the usual w.een shots of showing how Len is fucking retarded by doxxing one of us as Brianna Wu. This "saga" is currently ongoing, as Len still has several w.eens, as well as the aid of Kaufman, to try and take the piss out of us.

@PropaneAccesories - Ex-W.een and one of the designers of the Taking Down Kiwi Farms, Propane fed Len some fake dox and routinely spoke to him under the alias "Clara." While initially similar to the Kirby saga in that Propane would put up the doxxing that Len wanted, their relationship ultimately ended when Len kept trying to get information on Clara. Not because he was suspicious, mind you. It was because Clara was a girl, and Len was a fucking pervert. When Propane was linked to some poor girl's Facebook account, he ejected from the ruse and gave his reveal here in the hopes that Len would fuck off from bugging that girl on Facebook. Propane's reveal of the Second Doxxing Saga shows that Len is absolutely fucking obsessed with the Colebrookdale Railroad and us, believing genuinely that we are a front for the railroad and that he is at literal war with us. This is not an exaggeration - these are Len's exact words. Propane was actually more of the messenger than he was someone feeding details at Len, as Len would often come to Propane with a Kiwi in mind and, usually, one of the many people from Colebrookdale Railroad, saying something along the lines of "hey, you think X is Y?" Propane would give the nod and Len would tell him to put up the "dox," which was done. While Len still has an entire community of w.eens revolving around him to power the autism of this doxxing saga for longer, it's becoming painfully obvious that Len is continually feeding into his own delusion with these pages, looking for someone to confirm his own suspicions that we are all sockpuppets and members of the Colebrookdale Railroad.

@Gook Choy - One of Len's former co-workers at Sears, and a Lentorian with a lot of personal history of Len back when he worked in retail at Sears. Gook Choy has shared numerous stories, and I'll probably work on hunting them all down and compiling them into their own post. As it stands, though, anyone who is interested in hearing about Len's insanity can search him up on the main thread and read the stories he puts there. Many of Gook's stories have turned into regular memes on Len, and the more popular stories will be listed later on in this list.

@TopHat - Another Lentorian who has a repository of stories on Len. Again, I'll probably compile and list all of his stories later on, but he also has revealed a couple of things about Len that will be mentioned later in the list.

"The Cranberry Farms" - One of Len's more insane delusions that he's cooked up. I actually had to double check to make sure I didn't accidentally make this up in a fever dream because I couldn't find the source for this after skimming through his sites, but I found it, courtesy of based @Kirby. Here is Len's description of the Cranberry Farms. According to Len, it is a secret bullying forum (secret even to us) owned by Null's older brother, Neo Null. Password is 420blaze. Also according to Len, this is a terrorist site.

Len and Shit, Pantyhose, and Pillows - This was actually part of the title as a joke, but it's horrifying how true this actually is. Len has routinely shit his pants. Stories from Gook Choy have said that Len worked in retail, but during the later hours of his shift where he couldn't be assed to work, Len would actually shit himself to get out of work. Yes, a grown man would shit his pants so that he wouldn't have to work. This became even more horrifying in a later Len story talking about his... antics with shit. Gloria is Len's mom, and she is rather ill, ill enough that a public service worker has to come in and check up on her. In one of Gook's stories, this woman ended up walking in on Len fucking a pillow in nothing but pantyhose, having shit himself. Len looked up at this woman and said YOU'RE NOT WORKING TODAY, which caused her to flee the house in literal terror (like any sane person would have). This story is the primary reason a lot of people like to bring up Len shitting his pants, having a pantyhose fetish, and fucking pillows. ... Because it's all true, and it's all horrifying.

Len and Journey Up My Ass Productions - Len, autistic sperg that he is, has a box of... questionably insane productions. One of the things he used to do back in retail was bring this box of insanity to work and try to get people to play their contents. One time, to fulfill this crazy desire of his, he ended up taking a VHS player that was on reserve for a customer and using it to play its contents, and Len being Len, the tape that he put in got jammed within the VHS player, effectively destroying it and causing a bit of a hassle with the customer whose product was now a very fancy paperweight. One of our fellow Kiwis ended up shopping the phrase Journey Up My Ass Productions to a box of VHS's that they attributed to Len, and thus the meme was born. They are currently set to produce the 8th Star Wars film. Prepared to be disappointed.

Len, Fucking Creeper - Len, as you could guess from the entry on Propane, controls himself about as well around women as our Loveshies do. Maybe even worse than them. Reports from our Lentorians have spoken of Len taking pictures of women back when he was at the Colebrookdale Railroad, going so far as to actually hide under the floorboards of the railroad and take upskirt shots of the women. Even underaged girls. Classy man, he is. A Gook Choy story spoke about a female employee at Sears that was retiring and was fairly well-liked among the staff. She went around giving the staff a personal sendoff, ranging from hugs to some small kisses. Len, being... the weirdo that he is, got a hug, but tried to turn it around into a huge kiss. She responded by slapping him in the face. btw if you happen to be reading this, I need to buy you a drink. Len has also gone on record on personally looking for "female railfans," showing that he seems to really, really, really want to get his hands on a girl. For the sake of all women everywhere, keep your distance from Len.

Right now, that's all I can think of. If you guys have any other questions or things that should be noted about Len, feel free about mentioning them and I'll add them in the next installment. Also, all of the people I've tagged are fucking awesome people that did God's work in contributing to all of this information. Thank them, and buy them a drink if you ever meet them.

Apologies if any of this information is inaccurate. With the exception of Kaufman (whose full name I forgot) and the Cranberry Farms (the details of which I actually forgot and had to look up to make sure I wasn't fucking that up), I'm typing most of this stuff up from memory. Decide for yourself if that makes me more autistic than Len that I remember all of this shit.

That's all I can think of, at any rate.

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Found Curt's second account where he made Shaner shit himself for the Info dump: It was @The Rock Island Bastard .

And here's a decent amount of stuff Gook Choy wrote up on Len: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/leona...ile-foamer-shitlord.9940/page-476#post-833187

And here's some more links for more info on Shaner:

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/leona...ile-foamer-shitlord.9940/page-775#post-889063
(How Shaner talks and how he argues)
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/leona...ile-foamer-shitlord.9940/page-771#post-888300
(Shaner tantruming at a child who thought his hat looked dumb)
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/leona...ile-foamer-shitlord.9940/page-768#post-886536
(Len breaking some poor kid's expensive train model out of jealousy and autistic rage)
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/leona...ile-foamer-shitlord.9940/page-767#post-886242
(Len trying to game the raffle system because he's a greedy fat faggot)
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/leona...ile-foamer-shitlord.9940/page-764#post-885217
(Len is a literal bastard. Gloria fucked the milkman/salesman)
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/leona...ile-foamer-shitlord.9940/page-766#post-885937
(Shaner has actually harrassed Sears due to his conspiracy theory)
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/leona...ile-foamer-shitlord.9940/page-832#post-898540
(Shaner fucking likes loli... but only with d cup titties)
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/leona...ile-foamer-shitlord.9940/page-744#post-874922
(DURR HOW DOES DA PRINTER WORK? *SHITS PANTS*)
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/leona...ile-foamer-shitlord.9940/page-739#post-872689
(Moar info on Len at Sears courtesy of @Gook Choy )
 
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Semper Fi to @Adamska for all that info, especially finding that one sockpuppet. I couldn't remember what bloody page it was and the Search results were not helping me so I eventually just gave up there.

I dunno how I remembered to mention TopHat but I forgot to mention the story where Len smashed a model train. Guess that's what I get from going purely by memory and being sleepy.
 
Guessing he was just hunting for more pics after seeing your avatar.
He actually hitted on me like 2 minutes after I changed my avatar (that would be 5 minutes after he dox me) and maybe afterwards he decided to get more pics of Anita to paste them over his trainfus, but then he realized what happened, felt a bit dumb for the dox... and fap to Anita anyway.
 
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/leona...ile-foamer-shitlord.9940/page-767#post-886242
(Len trying to game the raffle system because he's a greedy fat faggot)
I think this one deserves retelling, because everything works out perfectly!
Len Shaner in "Raffle Kerfuffle!"

Like many businesses in the area, we had a fishbowl at customer service and near the exit where a customer could put their business card or personal information inside so they could win a various prize. Sometimes it was half-off a big ticket item or a really good deal on closeout items. One time it was free delivery and in-home appliance set-up. Len, trying to scam, would fill out real names on these cards but Len being Len, he would put his home number on them. Better yet, if it was someone he didn't like, he would scratch off the phone number provided and scribble his own underneath.

Customer Service almost instantly caught on since he kept signing the same stupid number in chicken stratch and decided to play a prank on Len. Picking one of his cards, Customer Service called Len at home. They asked "Is this Mister Such-and-Such?" When Len said yes, Customer Service informed him that he had won a free microwave. They gave the option to ship the microwave to him but if they did, he would have to pay for the shipping costs. Len, believing himself to be a master of disguise, said that would be fine but to ship the microwave to his "home address" and not the one on the business card. They then duct taped a box together and filled it with trash. And when I say trash, I mean trash. Bottom dumpster scrapped trash. The kind of old, wet, dirty diaper sludge that makes you heave.

Days later Len came in visibly angry and would only say he was in a bad mood. There was no one to complain to about trying to game the system. I imagine he could not rid his house of the smell of that box for weeks. We managed to find the real customer Len tried to impersonate and they were delighted to have a new microwave, free of charge.
As always, Semper Fidelis to @Gook Choy and the many others who have brought us this fine feast of lolcow.
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