Gross Kelly Ronahan - Vampire Munchie Who Destroyed Her Own Legs

[Mothman's Hitlist]

Upon glancing through this thread and poll, an extremely autistic question came to my mind. If she was somehow magically able to keep her rotted, detached legs as a souvenir, do you think she would continue to pick at them or do you think she’d just move on to something else actually attached to her body? Fucking re.tarded question, I know. I’m just curious though.

It would be a nice talking piece at the dinner table

 

[Underestimated Nutria]

PL, but I've had a routine surgery where they gave me the max non-tolerant dose of fentanyl afterwards, and I was still in enough pain for several hours that I genuinely wanted to die to make it stop. Opiods do good at just knocking you the fuck out if you're hurting, and yes they also help dull pain, but they do not give you the ability to finger the inside of your leg with zero consequences. I'm figuring by the time it rotted to the point she was pulling chunks off, the whole thing had no sensation anyways.

Not unusual! When I was in school, "opiophobia" was frequently cautioned against/told that the tripling of opioid prescriptions in the last six or seven years in my jurisdiction were the still-inadequate response to the newfound appreciation that patients traditionally were being undermedicated for pain. This was admittedly silly since that correction, however necessary, probably had already long since been made, and there was no appreciation at all for long-term problems like hyperalgesia, but the reality is that only a tiny fraction of opioid-dependent patients who run into trouble get that way taking their scrips as prescribed. And it takes weeks or months to develop one's first dependency, so the idea of doctors creating addicts by practicing any sort of reasonable medicine is overstated.

Now in my jurisdiction there is a hard limit of 100mg/morphine/day without explicit governmental approval (i.e. civil servants with degrees in art history practicing medicine). Pretty absurd.

Opioids are mostly good for dull, aching pain, and to a large extent work by modifying your attitude to the pain (making you not care). At sufficiently high doses one is unlikely to ever be prescribed, about any sort of pain, physical or emotional, at all. So the dichotomy between abuse (taking it to feel good) and proper use (pain relief) is a little less real than one might perhaps like.

 

[Swagstika]

Maybe I can help clear things up a little bit about being able to lock people up in psyc...
I think most countries have a law that it's not illegal to be crazy. That doesn't force the system to do something about you. However, if being mental puts you at risk of harming yourself or others, the system needs to act. But there is a huge grey zone here, and you have to be really sure or you will be put through a lot of tiresome court stuff. Because like I wrote earlier: Liberal bleeding heart stuff about keeping people safe from making bad choices is worse than Hitler.
I have a good excample...
A woman arrives with the police one day at work. She has tried to kill herself, they say. We are all surprised because she has no bandages, no bruises. Nothing. Seems clear and normal too, so it's weird.
The police explains. She has laid down in the street wanting to be run over by a car. So a suicide attempt. But, the overdramatic idiot has done it in a slow down zone near a school. Eyeroll.
So the police on scene had picked her off the street, and were just going to stuff her in her car and tell her to take her weird drama somewhere else. There is no way they could have taken that weird drama serious and been allowed to act on it seriously without getting in trouble themselves.
No law against being stupid, or over dramatic, or "suicidal".
But as they take her to her car, they find it full of drugs. The overdramatic idiot is an addict and has decided to kill herself over staying an addict.
So suddenly it's a case they actually can act on because drugs. Such is the law, and it's stupid.

 

[Fucking Pardon?]

Am curious about the head IVs I've never seen that done on anything but infants.

am not a medfag but my guess would be poor circulation? one of the vets said previously that she’s had all sorts of problems with her immune system and blood flow since she started picking away muscle and hacking up her shin bones.

also, in that same picture we’re referencing, i can see a scab on Kelly’s lip. wonder if she’s already started biting at it and we’ll see chunks missing soon.

edit: could also be bruising from intubation during surgery.

 

[DX10]

Based on the previous post, I wont be surprised if she keep ripping off the IV needle from her hand. So the Doctor ordered the nurse to stick the IV needle to her forehead

Not how it works. They'd just restrain her if she was actively tearing needles out of herself. More likely it's due to circulation issues & her ongoing sepsis.

 

[Mason Verger]

I wonder why she can't access any of her social media accounts? It's not as though they take your phone away in the recovery ward.

Fuckin hell. I know I’m screaming into the void here, but yeah, after a double above the knee amputation, social media should really be your first concern. Gotta collect those ass-pats while you still got an ass to pat I guess.

 

[Goyslop Muncher]

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[DX10]

Not how it works. They'd just restrain her if she was actively tearing needles out of herself. More likely it's due to circulation issues & her ongoing sepsis.

And uh, to elaborate on this: I know someone's gonna tell me that restraints generally have to be court-ordered. Yes and no. Immediate restraint is acceptable if someone is a threat to themselves or others, and yanking an IV line out of yourself is basically tantamount to taking a knife to your wrist in many ways (and in the eyes of any doctor who didn't get his degree at Hollywood Upstairs Medical College) and no doctor would be held liable for restraining a patient if they were doing so. In some cases it's also possible to get post-fact court order to justify prior-applied restraint, though where this can be applied is fuzzy.

Generally speaking, you would only need a court order for hard restraint, IE leather/metal restraints, round-the-clock restraint-and-sedation. That sort of shit. Posey-vest/belting is pretty standard, especially for the elderly (whom Poseys were invented for)

In general, the application of restraint in medicine is always somewhat fuzzy in regards to ethics, and precedent cases for it are surprisingly rarer than you might expect, since a lot of the people being restrained are legally incompetent or lack the mental wherewithal to create a case about it. The ancient meme of every mental health facility being a straitjacket fashion show with drooling lobotomites is not true but aside from key precedent cases you don't hear a lot about restraint in MH in the USA because when it's applied, the person suffering it usually doesn't have a lot of recourse, whether because of fiscal disadvantages or mental or otherwise. The few key cases where people've kicked shit about it have usually resulted in justified ass-kicking.

There is an ongoing issue of psychiatric restraints being abused in prisons, and I'm sure it goes on in both hospitals and mental health facilities too, but by and large it's not brought up as much as say, the abuse of Solitary.

And to bring it back to the topic, as we all know (as of today when newfags like myself came into the thread), Kelly is very much definitively a threat to herself, so no doc would balk at strapping her down if she was tearing medical equipment out of her flesh.

 

[Ruin]

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Dammmmmmn. She already looks like Mason Verger.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Strangely I enjoyed the influx of new hand wringers and pearl clutchers wondering why this train wreck isn't locked up. But I'm a veteran heavy duty psyciatry nurse and have to work with the bleeding heart liberal bullshit idea of how inhumane it is to lock people up to keep them from doing stupid shit. So, yea, kind of strangely nice to see people react to this, I guess? Some times I forget that the majority of the world isn't completely fucked up, and normal people don't just shrug things like this off.

You'd be hard pressed to find someone in the San Francisco Bay Area who doesn't think that closing the asylums under Ronald Reagan was a huge mistake.

Tendies and Connect Four at Napa versus screaming yourself hoarse on Market Street while covered in your own shit? Which is the more humane and dignified treatment of the mentally ill?

To take it back to Kelly, I can see how for someone who can feed herself, dress herself, stay housed, and generally exist in the world, there's room for discussion about what the humane treatment option is.

People on Death Row in California are put in single-occupant cells where they can have their own belongings and they can communicate with other prisoners and people outside, so it's not like being thrown in the hole for the rest of their lives. Serial killers at Vacaville (which is where the mentally ill murderers are, like in Mindhunter) are not thrown in the hole. Uncle Ted is in the hole but he's allowed to write, read books, and use his hands. Hell, Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs was in the hole and he was allowed books and art materials.

Kelly would have to be put in some kind of restraints for months if not years. She'd have to be fed, have her ass wiped, and watch whatever was on TV in the day room 'cause she couldn't turn the pages of a book.

People hurt themselves every day. Putting this chick into long-term restraints "for her own good" is not humane and no psych hospital would do it.

 

[Dog Prom 3D]

Should still make you a little MATI, considering bitches like her and her ~*~mysterious blood disappearing disorder~*~ (she takes it out through her armpit) is wasting what's probably amounted to at least a couple gallons of donor blood and other finite medical resources. Like the rare but still existing assholes who are lucky enough to get a donor heart then kill that one too.

No, because she's got Munchausen's, not some OCD sort of compulsion to pick. Picking at a detached bit wouldn't give her the doting asspats of the "poow wittwe sick ballewina".

I doubt it. Sometimes you can but it's incredibly rare, AND these doctors know who she is (she's obviously a "frequent flyer")

Wow, I missed that she bled herself through her armpits.

I always wondered where she bled herself from. The girl detectives on lolcow figured she was bleeding herself from between her toes but it always seemed to me that location wouldn’t let her lose as much blood as she needed, especially when she was in the hospital and being observed. There’s only so much blood you can squeeze out of the tiny vessels between toes when the nurses are watching you like a hawk.

How do we know it was indeed the armpit?

I wish all the Canadian news channels that ran the heartwarming “Ballerina with Rare Blood Disorder Dances Through Her Transfusion” stories would do a follow-up. The best part of her blood saga was when she showed up at a blood drive to give people gift bags she made to thank them for saving her life. The news ate that shit up but the people who were donating blood were absolutely unnerved by her behavior. Surely a story about a legless ballerina would tug at heartstrings.

 

[Iron Hamster]

I wonder why she can't access any of her social media accounts? It's not as though they take your phone away in the recovery ward.

There's a tablet right in front of her in the one pic.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Wow, I missed that she bled herself through her armpits.

I always wondered where she bled herself from. The girl detectives on lolcow figured she was bleeding herself from between her toes but it always seemed to me that location wouldn’t let her lose as much blood as she needed, especially when she was in the hospital and being observed. There’s only so much blood you can squeeze out of the tiny vessels between toes when the nurses are watching you like a hawk.

How do we know it was indeed the armpit?

I wish all the Canadian news channels that ran the heartwarming “Ballerina with Rare Blood Disorder Dances Through Her Transfusion” stories would do a follow-up. The best part of her blood saga was when she showed up at a blood drive to give people gift bags she made to thank them for saving her life. The news ate that shit up but the people who were donating blood were absolutely unnerved by her behavior. Surely a story about a legless ballerina would tug at heartstrings.

We don't know for certain, but medkiwis have hypothesized that's the easiest place, good veins and easy to miss.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Kelly would have to be put in some kind of restraints for months if not years. She'd have to be fed, have her ass wiped, and watch whatever was on TV in the day room 'cause she couldn't turn the pages of a book.

One of the students I worked with was like Kelly in a way. They were kept in belt cuffs which can be changed to have allowance slack to allow enough movement to do basic needs. He was in them since he liked to scratch himself up and others up and since he was HIV positive that was a serious risk to us and himself.

They also can't keep somone restrained 24/7 that is not allowed. Ususally people will be kept on observation near the nurses station if they are like Kelly and only restrained when they are actively caught doing something. Pretty much in a psych ward setting there'd be a nurse up her ass at all times which probably would be something she'd enjoy since she loves attention.

 

[Iron Hamster]

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That's the look of being told "yes.......they are gone".

 

[El Gordo Ramsay Sex Dwarf]

If she does keep going, she can take Adam Buxton's role in the Canadian version of the Crystal Maze -

 

[Mason Verger]

Hey what do you call a girl with no arms and no legs?

Carrie.

 

[SpaceAce]

The most interesting thing about Kelly, aside from her being the worst case of Munchausen syndrome most medical professionals will ever encounter, is how absolutely fucked her sense of pain must be to able able to do this sort of thing. She has to have become accustomed to the worst pain a human can endure.

New fags, please stop all the hand-wringing. Read the goddamn thread, not only because it’s entertaining but also because it will save you the effort of being all, ”how on earth did she do this/why isn’t anyone getting her help/why isn’t she locked up?”

But since none of y’all will actually read it all, please read this before sharing your opinions about what should be done about Kelly:

She’s been destroying herself for years. She’s been institutionalized several times. She‘s been receiving lots of help, but she’s too fucking sick for it to matter. Her mental illness is not anything that will cause harm to others, she’s grounded to reality and knows what she is doing can hurt her, and there’s no real protocol for dealing with something like this because this is some outlier shit right here. How many people who aren’t drug addicts in 2012 Russia have you ever seen in such bad shape? Very few, if any, and because Kelly is one of the worst, no psychiatric system anywhere is set up to deal with her or give her help.

Yeah, she wastes resources better used on other people. That’s true everywhere but this is Canada, not Calcutta. No one is going to die because of Kelly hogged all the medical care. Canada’s got all kinds of waste going on with just Chantal and all her ER visits because she can’t breathe and it hurts to pee. It would cost Canada millions to develop a program to deal with Kelly, possibly more than it costs them to react to what she does to herself and because this is North America no one can just lock her up to save her life. Yet culturally we‘re not ready to just let her rot to death. Her docs will continue to do the bare minimum to keep her carcass afloat and little more, but they have to help her because this is a society, etc.

As appalling as it may seem, it is not illegal to pick your flesh off your bones, her mental illness isn’t delusional or psychotic, and she poses no immediate threat to anyone but herself. And because she’s dying on the installment plan you can’t even section her as a suicide risk because she does not want to die. She’s not overtly trying to kill herself. She just wants lots of attention.

If we could copy this into the amputation post linked from the front page somehow that would be amazing and hopefully slow down the tidal wave of comments screaming about psych wards.
Maybe something too that says "No, she's not a compulsive picker, just a munchie. Here's the album of her wounds yes we know its gross and your scarred for life and/or have seen worse."
My @ing seems to be busted though so I'm afraid I can only wish for now.

Any updates on the cat? Is that poor critter okay?

The great thing about following munchies is that if something goes wrong they will milk it for all its worth, so if something happened to Chompy (and Kelly knew about it, hard to say what news gets to her right now) we would def hear about it. She's been on about how even doctors acknowledge that she's obsessed with her cat in the past, she'd never pass up the chance to be the mourning cat mom.

Why in the actual fuck would you find time to post mother fucking images on social media at a time like this is beyond me...

Social media was a fucking mistake.

The best part is that someone else had to take that first picture. You know she spent time posing for it and probably picking the most woe-is-me shot. It's easy to forget how calculated a lot IG addicts photos are and hilarious to think of all the set up and fussing just to look sleepy or sad.

I wonder why she can't access any of her social media accounts? It's not as though they take your phone away in the recovery ward.

She's still pretending she was hacked and either didn't have time to wrap up that storyline before her operation or its part of her plan to spread her story to new eyes and ears by having mutuals post it all on their accounts.


EDIT: Looking through the album I'd forgotten how much of this started out with her burning herself. For anyone curious how even deep circular burns can become this mess the answer is a pair of scissors and the fact that they found fecal matter in her wounds.
And she herself posted both of these facts.

 

[Vi0l3t]

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Pupils the size of saucers, looks like the corner of her lips bruised.

 

[SquishThatCat]

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Holy shit, you can just see how absolutely zonked off the pain meds she is.