Jesus Christ, this thread is full of "alpacashwitz" jokes and stuff, but while I don't doubt that conditions aren't great, I did figure that they at least were getting sufficient calories since they have plenty of hay. Maybe I'm just displaying my utterly embarrassing ignorance regarding alpaca, but those two look seriously unhealthy. I know that healthy dogs have a visibly outlined rib cage (not that the ribs are individually visible, but that you can see the shape of the cage as a whole), but alpaca shouldn't have a belly that dips up like that, right? And their fur shouldn't be that matted right? Why are they even posting that?