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Suzuhara Lulu's updated model and new outfit. It's not the 3.0 update but she can affords more expression and head movement now. It's cute but pale in comparison to the impact of her new looks.

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A close up look. The ribbons and hair pins are the charm point of this new cut.

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The concept is "gamer girl" and "summer". Short hair Lulu has a nice refreshing feels and her outfit has a nice number of accessories and attachment. Also she was very happy about a matching hair cut with Lize now.

Her headphones is Saine mama original brand, personalized design for Lulu.
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Her coat has a nice asymmetrical design to it. Nijisanji on one side and Konlulu on another. Her sleeves also has different designs, unfortunately I was screenshoting these live and wasn't able to get a clear shot with both of them close up.
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It also comes with a cat ear hoodie. This was added after her adopting her cat Muku, so Saine mama decided to throw it in as a bonus. Thank you very much.
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Full body shot with hoodie.
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The hood and the camisole can be taken off for a more "summer" and less "gamer" looks. There's no camisole only version, but that's what the fan artists are for.
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I really like it. The hood is obviously nice but it's crowded in design. On the other hand you can easily see someone dressed in that one piece in the street.

It came with a variety of accessories for different activities too.
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The shark plushie, controller and glasses. Once again, all Saine original brand personalized for Lulu using her color palette. No need to guess who was mama favorite child because the writing is on the wall.

Everything sans the headphones. Cute.
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But that wasn't all. She got another hairstyle and it's another summer classic.
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The twintails and the one piece really captured the essence of summer. I like the short hair better when she was wearing her hoodie but twintails got my vote for the winner hairstyle overall. Lulu also said she really likes this one because it has a girly feels to it.

Bonus fanservice for the og crowds.
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Saine mama really hit a homerun with this new design here, and Lulu genuine excitement and happiness showing it off adds a lot to the viewer's satisfaction when seeing the reveal. It might not bring the most "wah" factor to the new outfit, but I can say this stream is the most enjoyable reveal I've watched in recent times. I'm grateful the love and care and the meticulous effort put in to make this a reality. That's all from me. Otsululu folks.
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I think greenlit is the wrong word here and would rather say forward. Reason being as that would imply it's the manager's fault Gura got the shaft when her manager is the same one that vetted the requests for two of the girls that got the most accessories. I'd honestly say Gura herself is the source here. She has accessories for her base model but never uses them. She knows this. She very likely knew she wasn't going to use accessories for the new model either so she saved everyone trouble and only asked for cat ears. And as boring as it is, it's the most sensible request cuz she spends 95% of her streams with just her head in the corner for games and zoomed in on her face for superchat readings.
What I'm saying is that there's a whole process for accessories before it reaches the person who does the rigging.

Ame literally said she proposed the gun idea and had to get the OK from EnMa and obviously have Nabi draw it. That's greenlighting it.

A lot of people responding to me have the belief that I'm defending the rigger when I'm not. There are clearly issues with the model that need addressing, and if you want to blame the rigger or Cover is neither here or there.

But to those who are criticising the accessories or plainness of the costume, that's moreso on Gura herself and the artist. There IS vitriol regarding that directed towards the rigger that doesn't belong there.

I don't care either way because I don't really watch her. Timezone issues notwithstanding, I prefer listening to Calli and Ina while I work from home.

And as I mentioned earlier, she's kind of stuck there until her base outfit gets an update. It doesn't matter who rigs the new outfit, they have to keep it uniform. That's why there are a handful of outfits on other members you rarely see and it's because they're stuck on the 1.0 model. The difference between Subaru's 2.0 and her 1.0 grey outfit is staggering.

That, too, is the fault of the original rigger. There is criticism to be directed at her for sure: just not a not-i consequential chunk of what is being said. Minority? Sure, whatever. Doesn't mean it isn't worth mentioning.
 
Looks like Fubuki try to damage control Gura's scuff Live2D by throwing some yuri content out there. Same with Gooruh.
If that's true then whoever doing the contracting with no quality control will be put on hot seat unless that person sucks YAGOO's dick so hard that nepotism kicks in.

Edit: Gooruh actually start to spend more time on social media now talking about various things from yuri baiting with FBK to comment on artist fanarts etc. Probably try to defuse the situation involve her subpar live2D. Thank goodness that the super innovate Ame’s costume reveal (with her pistol prop and butt scratching) can somehow divert those negative attentions to somewhere else.
 
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Ash Ketchum rapper is playing pokemans oh snaP!
She is praising to hell and back Amelia and telling all of us what we already knew, even when Ame doesnt have the same skills as the other 4 she compensate it by her ways to interact with chat, as a streamers Ame is the best of the bunch

btw Doggo blessed be her name and honored be her deeds is playing the remaster of Saga Frontier, i only played Saga Frontier 2 because the graphics were awesome


Fun fact, back in the day reviewers shitted in Saga because it was "to open world"
 
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But to those who are criticising the accessories or plainness of the costume, that's moreso on Gura herself and the artist. There IS vitriol regarding that directed towards the rigger that doesn't belong there.
All that fucking bullshit is much ado about nothing anyway. Anyone who's watched Gura all these months should know by now that she hardly ever uses her original accessories (when was the last time she showed her trident, faggots?). So much so that she routinely misplaces and forgets where she saves the overlays/accessories given to her (part of the reason why she uses that scuffed scribbled mic during karaoke streams). Bitch is as laid-back and non-complicated for being Cover's most subbed talent.

She said she wanted one thing and got it: fucking cat ears. On a goddamn shark girl. And y'all still think she wouldn't have accessories if she wanted it?

All this fucking sperging about her rig or lack of accessories conveniently and proactively ignores the simple fact that Gura doesn't give a flying fuck about it anyway and has actually shown herself to have more fun with the scuffness of her first model.

All this REEEEEEEE chum-faggery only serves to reinforce how super-charged the autism of her fanbase is. Your oshi just wants to stream, sing and play games, faggots. The least you can do is be as chill and laid-back as she is.

At the very least, try to contain the autism and not be a fucking embarassment for her - she's already shown she's fully capable of dropping a massive fanbase without as much as a simple "Fuck y'all, BYE" when they prove to be too tiresome. Just ask all the pathetic Senzawa faggots still typing "She's back!" on her chat.
 
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All that fucking bullshit is much ado about nothing anyway. Anyone who's watched Gura all these months should know by now that she hardly ever uses her original accessories (when was the last time she showed her trident, faggots?). So much so that she routinely misplaces and forgets where she saves the overlays/accessories given to her (part of the reason why she uses that scuffed scribbled mic during karaoke streams).

Bitch is as laid-back and non-complicated for being Cover's most subbed talent. She said she wanted one thing and got it: fucking cat ears. All this fucking sperging about her rig or lack of accessories conveniently and proactively ignores the simple fact that Gura doesn't give a flying fuck about it and actually seems to have more fun with the scuffness of her first model. Y'all think she wouldn't have accessories if she wanted it?

All this REEEEEEEE chum-faggery only serves to reinforce how super-charged the autism of her fanbase is. Your oshi just wants to stream, sing and play games, faggots. The least you can do is be as chill and laid-back as she is.

At the very least, try to contain the autism and not be a fucking embarassment for her - she's already shown she's fully capable of dropping a massive fanbase without as much as a simple "Fuck y'all, BYE" when they prove to be too tiresome. Just ask all the pathetic Senzawa faggots still typing "She's back!" on her chat.
She's admitted she doesn't like the Trident due to it being a larger size than her, and the hoodie because someone told her it makes her look phallic and she can't unsee it. But I generally agree, I've complained about the rigger and stand by it that she deserves better. Having said that though, like you mentioned, with how Gura uses her model it really isn't going to change anything as long as the glaring bugs get fixed like the transparent spots.

Also for some people, I'm going to reiterate a point I made when Ollie started her break, people saying Hololive is on full-on damage control really forget that the chans and Kiwifarms are basically an echo chamber. I'm sure there were people upset and a handful of psychos went out of their way to send some schizo messages but that's pretty much business as usual. T-chan locking the Reddit thread was just to avoid it turning into some bitching thread.
 

Suzuhara Lulu's updated model and new outfit. It's not the 3.0 update but she can affords more expression and head movement now. It's cute but pale in comparison to the impact of her new looks.

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A close up look. The ribbons and hair pins are the charm point of this new cut.

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The concept is "gamer girl" and "summer". Short hair Lulu has a nice refreshing feels and her outfit has a nice number of accessories and attachment. Also she was very happy about a matching hair cut with Lize now.

Her headphones is Saine mama original brand, personalized design for Lulu.
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Her coat has a nice asymmetrical design to it. Nijisanji on one side and Konlulu on another. Her sleeves also has different designs, unfortunately I was screenshoting these live and wasn't able to get a clear shot with both of them close up.
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It also comes with a cat ear hoodie. This was added after her adopting her cat Muku, so Saine mama decided to throw it in as a bonus. Thank you very much.
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Full body shot with hoodie.
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The hood and the camisole can be taken off for a more "summer" and less "gamer" looks. There's no camisole only version, but that's what the fan artists are for.
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I really like it. The hood is obviously nice but it's crowded in design. On the other hand you can easily see someone dressed in that one piece in the street.

It came with a variety of accessories for different activities too.
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The shark plushie, controller and glasses. Once again, all Saine original brand personalized for Lulu using her color palette. No need to guess who was mama favorite child because the writing is on the wall.

Everything sans the headphones. Cute.
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But that wasn't all. She got another hairstyle and it's another summer classic.
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The twintails and the one piece really captured the essence of summer. I like the short hair better when she was wearing her hoodie but twintails got my vote for the winner hairstyle overall. Lulu also said she really likes this one because it has a girly feels to it.

Bonus fanservice for the og crowds.
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Saine mama really hit a homerun with this new design here, and Lulu genuine excitement and happiness showing it off adds a lot to the viewer's satisfaction when seeing the reveal. It might not bring the most "wah" factor to the new outfit, but I can say this stream is the most enjoyable reveal I've watched in recent times. I'm grateful the love and care and the meticulous effort put in to make this a reality. That's all from me. Otsululu folks.
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That artist sure loves her starry night theme.
Now all 3 sisters have matching outfits.
Caught a glimpse of short hair Lulu live. Sure hits different.
 
All that fucking bullshit is much ado about nothing anyway. Anyone who's watched Gura all these months should know by now that she hardly ever uses her original accessories (when was the last time she showed her trident, faggots?). So much so that she routinely misplaces and forgets where she saves the overlays/accessories given to her (part of the reason why she uses that scuffed scribbled mic during karaoke streams). Bitch is as laid-back and non-complicated for being Cover's most subbed talent.

She said she wanted one thing and got it: fucking cat ears. On a goddamn shark girl. And y'all still think she wouldn't have accessories if she wanted it?

All this fucking sperging about her rig or lack of accessories conveniently and proactively ignores the simple fact that Gura doesn't give a flying fuck about it anyway and has actually shown herself to have more fun with the scuffness of her first model.

All this REEEEEEEE chum-faggery only serves to reinforce how super-charged the autism of her fanbase is. Your oshi just wants to stream, sing and play games, faggots. The least you can do is be as chill and laid-back as she is.

At the very least, try to contain the autism and not be a fucking embarassment for her - she's already shown she's fully capable of dropping a massive fanbase without as much as a simple "Fuck y'all, BYE" when they prove to be too tiresome. Just ask all the pathetic Senzawa faggots still typing "She's back!" on her chat.
You are being too aggressive and also missing the point: after 4 fuck ups, the rigger should have never touched a holo again. But Cover, who claims to specialise on 2D tech, keeps on hiring them for some reason.

It doesn't really matter which EN it happens to, their fanbase will seethe with that quality. Western culture is very vocal with technical criticisms unlike the JOPs. And that isnt a bad thing, except even the constructive ones got labeled as an anti. Overall, this is just a jab on Cover's incompetence. There should at least be a basic QC on the outfits, specially if they claim themselves 'advance 2d tech company'.

Also, I like discussions like this, not too much of a hugbox like reddit and not too shitposty like the chans. But if you guys think stuff like this derails the thread, then sure, I'll go back to lurking and just post news whenever.
 
She's admitted she doesn't like the Trident due to it being a larger size than her, and the hoodie because someone told her it makes her look phallic and she can't unsee it.
She looked more like a missile, the only complain i had is that mechanically speaking it was dumb because you should be able to see the hoodie when she is not using it, instead her model without it remove it completely, it wass less than a hoodie and more like a oversized beanie

chans and Kiwifarms are basically an echo chamber
We are a sound proof room, we dont hear retardation from other sites like vtg or reddit unless someone bring it

Edit: did not they debutted that song during their collab? or is the debut of the pv?

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All that fucking bullshit is much ado about nothing anyway. Anyone who's watched Gura all these months should know by now that she hardly ever uses her original accessories (when was the last time she showed her trident, faggots?). So much so that she routinely misplaces and forgets where she saves the overlays/accessories given to her (part of the reason why she uses that scuffed scribbled mic during karaoke streams). Bitch is as laid-back and non-complicated for being Cover's most subbed talent.

She said she wanted one thing and got it: fucking cat ears. On a goddamn shark girl. And y'all still think she wouldn't have accessories if she wanted it?

All this fucking sperging about her rig or lack of accessories conveniently and proactively ignores the simple fact that Gura doesn't give a flying fuck about it anyway and has actually shown herself to have more fun with the scuffness of her first model.

All this REEEEEEEE chum-faggery only serves to reinforce how super-charged the autism of her fanbase is. Your oshi just wants to stream, sing and play games, faggots. The least you can do is be as chill and laid-back as she is.

At the very least, try to contain the autism and not be a fucking embarassment for her - she's already shown she's fully capable of dropping a massive fanbase without as much as a simple "Fuck y'all, BYE" when they prove to be too tiresome. Just ask all the pathetic Senzawa faggots still typing "She's back!" on her chat.
Hard agree, hit the nail on the head.

The best part of every sperg being mad on behalf of Gooruh is she most probably doesn't give a fuck and even likes her scuffed rig regardless.

No one likes fussy busybodies, those get a train ride to the funny farm.
 
the rigger should have never touched a holo again
It's a Live2D of a fucking anime girl. Fucking get over yourselves. I like Gura but hooooly-fuck chum-fags can be something else.


But Cover, who claims to specialise on 2D tech, keeps on hiring them for some reason.
The lot of hyper-focused spergs seem to be under the impression that what you and Cover considers as the definition of a "fuck up" are one and the same. It's a weirdass cat ear. It's an easy fix bug but goddamn would I love it if they just keep it as is and for Gura to keep using the model just for the pleasure of the hyperventilated REEEEEEEEEEEs from her fanbase.

Best part is she's probably giggling at the bugged ear rig anyway.
 
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