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My grandparents are experiencing some issues with the vaccine.
Pops has the shits and grandma suddenly couldn't string a sentence together(she's not demented and very with it). Second day after the second shot.
I hope it will blow over. There is also this case where a demented women we know suddenly went delirious after the shot. Don't know which brand.
I like that they won't be hospitalized because of covid, but I also don't want them to go all cooky.
I know someone who's in the ICU because the shot gave him allergy. He can't swallow and has a feeding tube now.
All anecdotes but it doesn't put me at ease.
My grandpa was really sick for two weeks after the vaccine. He pulled through okay.

Actually, now that I think about it, they just notified us last week that he's gone into end-stage kidney failure and may croak any day. (He's refusing dialysis.) It's the expected progression of issues he's been fighting for years, but now that I'm typing this I'm wondering about the timing. He had Covid twice (?) without any symptoms so I ever found out the shot was what got him, I'd be pretty grumpy.
Dude, I was all excited about that but then it's a white supremacist thing? In my neck of the woods that's just exchanging one method of loosing your job for another. Is there some kind of hippy-dippy druid homeopathic religion we can all join?
 
I think questioning the official narrative has been shunned for a long time. If you question the narrative around 9/11 still people think they’re a conspiracy theorist or if you question central banking. Any time you get close to asking the right question they shut that shit down real fast.
People just called the "jet fuels can't melt steel beams" crowd a bunch of crazies and moved on. You can still find people discussing it on the internet like you always have. Prominent celebrities question the official story on 9/11 and aren't met with constant screeching about how awful they are and how they need to be deplatformed ASAP. Nobody ever calls them dangers to society and demand their extermination or imprisonment. There were never massive PR campaigns meant to convince them they're wrong. People were always free to question the narrative and debate it because that's always been considered an essential part of a democratic society, that sometimes the government might be wrong.

Maybe the reason this (and the 2020 election) is so protected from questioning the truth and why they're so desperate to convince people of the narrative is because there's a lot more truth to those two than the bog standard 9/11 conspiracy theory or even a criticism of central banking (being called a "crypto-antisemite" for bringing that up is nowhere near as bad as the mass deplatforming and hate mobs that come after you for criticizing COVID-19 vaccinations or the legitimacy of the 2020 election). I mean I think the single most offensive thing you can say on the internet right now is "The COVID-19 vaccine is not safe and people shouldn't take it, and by the way Joe Biden is an illegitimate president who used voter fraud to steal the 2020 US presidential election."
was this a poster in this thread?

Man Films Himself Stealing Vial of COVID Vaccine to 'Test,' Says it's 'Poisoning People'​


AMinnesota man posted a video of himself that appeared to show him stealing a vial of the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine in order to "test it at a lab."

The man, who has been identified by his social media accounts as Thomas Humphrey, filmed himself at what appeared to be the beginning of a COVID-19 vaccine appointment at a CVS pharmacy on Thursday.

He can be heard saying, "I just want to read it. I just—you know, I'm taking the vaccine, I just want to read it," he then reached across a counter and grabbed a white box."

A woman who appeared to be a CVS employee tried to take the box back, saying, "Sir! Sir!" While he opened the box and pulled out a vial and presented it to the camera. "This is the vaccine in there? Thank you. I will be taking my vaccine here guys. We're gonna go test this, we're gonna bring it to the lab," he continued walking while CVS employees called for assistance.

Humphrey explained to the staff and to the camera that he was not going to be getting "his vaccine" in his arm, he was going to be taking an entire vial, which likely contains closer to enough doses for five people, with him to be "tested."

"I'm gonna investigate. Here, we'll trade. You can take the mask and I'll be taking the vaccine here. Don't touch me. This is my vaccine guys...this is poisoning people, so uh just taking my vaccine...We outta here."

The video continued while Humphrey got into his car to drive away from the CVS: "Glad they didn't lock the doors on me. She didn't wanna let me get it. But I got it again guys! It's the Johnson & Johnson one. I had to finesse that one a little bit." He seemed to be referring to a possible previous vaccine theft, which there are mentions of on Twitter, but Newsweek was not able to confirm this with video evidence at press time.


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"Seems like they were expecting me or something. Praise the lord guys, I got a full vial this time. Full vial. And uh they're definitely calling the cops. But uh, let's check it out... yep Janssen COVID vaccine. Alright. To the lab we go," Humphrey continued.

Janssen COVID-19 vaccine

Man Films Himself Stealing Vial of COVID Vaccine to ‘Test’, Says it’s ‘Poisoning People." Here, doses of the Johnson & Johnson Covid-19 vaccines are seen at a vaccination event in Los Angeles, California.FREDERIC J. BROWN//GETTY
Shortly after Humphrey posted his initial COVID-19 vaccine theft video, he posted an additional video with the headline "My kidnappers have set me free."

He was arrested, booked, and then released from the Anoka County Sheriff's office with a charge of obstructing an investigation. The Anoka County Sheriff's department did not immediately respond to inquiries from Newsweek.

ince posted photos of what appears to be two vials of COVID-19 vaccines in shipping materials to a Facebook account with this caption: "God is so amazing. We bout to find out what's in these vaccines. Just overnight them to an MD who has his own diagnostic laboratory. He will be taking a few samples out of each vile and sending it off to his friends for them to sample it as well..."
No. Posters in this thread would be smart enough to take every vial they can find and smash it right then and there, and save only one or two for laboratory analysis.

But honestly, I really don't care if people take a questionable vaccine. It's their health that's on the line, not mine. My wish is that people were able to come to an informed decision based on weighing the risks of the vaccine versus the disease. It can be hard to find information on the latter (especially information like the risk of long-term effects of COVID-19, which get little attention outside of fear mongering--thank god for this thread) given the media fear propaganda but it's out there and readily accessible. Good information on the vaccine is a lot more hazy because it's promoted as an uncritical good and any assertions to the contrary labeled dangerous and shut down with unprecedented fury.
That's it. I'm starting my own religion so I can claim religious exemption. What are the requirements in the US again?
Pretty difficult, like hippies tried to copy the Native American Peyote Church and use peyote (and other psychedelic drugs) as sacraments but the courts still banned them from using it since only Injuns get exemption from laws like that (because of treaties with Indian tribes and Supreme Court rulings on said treaties, basically the same reason Red Man can run a casino but White Man can't in many states). So if you want to violate some dumb vaccination law based on religion you're probably fucked. Especially since they already screw antivax churches over, which IMO is good when it comes to actually dangerous diseases like measles or shit but not so good when the same logic is applied to a mostly harmless virus like Wuflu where unlike measles, the vaccine lasts a couple of months rather than many years.
 
People just called the "jet fuels can't melt steel beams" crowd a bunch of crazies and moved on. You can still find people discussing it on the internet like you always have. Prominent celebrities question the official story on 9/11 and aren't met with constant screeching about how awful they are and how they need to be deplatformed ASAP. Nobody ever calls them dangers to society and demand their extermination or imprisonment. There were never massive PR campaigns meant to convince them they're wrong. People were always free to question the narrative and debate it because that's always been considered an essential part of a democratic society, that sometimes the government might be wrong.

Maybe the reason this (and the 2020 election) is so protected from questioning the truth and why they're so desperate to convince people of the narrative is because there's a lot more truth to those two than the bog standard 9/11 conspiracy theory or even a criticism of central banking (being called a "crypto-antisemite" for bringing that up is nowhere near as bad as the mass deplatforming and hate mobs that come after you for criticizing COVID-19 vaccinations or the legitimacy of the 2020 election). I mean I think the single most offensive thing you can say on the internet right now is "The COVID-19 vaccine is not safe and people shouldn't take it, and by the way Joe Biden is an illegitimate president who used voter fraud to steal the 2020 US presidential election."
I think that, if information could travel as fast in 2001 as it does now, we would have seen a lot more clamping down on conspiracy theorists over 9/11. Back then the loud ones telling truth could be ignored/shushed long enough to get the official story firmly in the public's minds. Now? How can TPTB get their narrative out to everyone and make sure it isn't questioned if others keep poking holes in their fairytales?

I had Covid back in October. It sucked. I got part 1 of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday. There are side effects and they also suck. So far I have not felt the need to post online about what a hero I am for getting vaccinated though. Maybe that comes with the second dose? That might be when I'll get the urge to attack anyone not getting vaccinated too, because so far I feel pretty live-and-let-live about it.

I wish this shit would stop. New normal, like New Coke, is not good.
 
Why on Earth would you get a vaccine for a disease you already had
I dunno. I ask myself that sometimes. In the past 24 hours or so especially.

I didn't rush out to get it when the vaccine first came out, partly to see how many people dropped dead after getting it and partly because I didn't feel I needed it as much as others might. I had already had the Coof so I likely had antibodies already, and I didn't want to hog it if there was a short supply since I don't have to work with the public.

I think I got it for the same reason I get flu shots if they're convenient. Kind of a "Fuck it, why not" sort of thing.

If I don't get superpowers or some other cool benefit from this, I plan to shitpost about it online quite a lot. QUITE a lot.
 
Found this today. No good link available.

Top 10 Absurdities of the COVID Pandemic

PF Whalen, The Blue State Conservative, 5/1/21

President Joe Biden and the Democratic Party may be in denial, but the truth is unavoidable. For all intents and purposes, the COVID-19 pandemic which has ravaged our country and our economy for fourteen months is over. As we prepare to close the book on the nightmare it has been, let’s pause for a moment with the Top Ten list for the Month of May to reflect on some of the most ridiculous aspects of the handling of the coronavirus outbreak.

#10 – One-way traffic rules in supermarket aisles –

At the beginning of the pandemic – when we were still making jokes about coronavirus and Corona beer – there was a lot of confusion. As the magnitude of COVID became clear, people were erring on the side of caution; fair enough. But over a year into this thing, we can still see signage in stores telling us which direction to push our carts. If anyone ever abided by these rules, it was only for a short while, and that was a long time ago. If you were one of those people who tried to scold me for going the wrong way down an aisle last June, to which I told you, “shut the hell up,” I’m still not sorry. Here’s a prediction: no one will bother to conduct a study on exactly how many lives were saved by one-way supermarket traffic. And if an accurate analysis does come along it will arrive at this conclusion: Zero.( I never paid any attention to that stupid shit, either. - JS)

#9 – COVID is Trump’s fault –

Throughout the presidential campaign, the left and their media hammered away at this point. If Trump had acted properly, the pandemic never would have happened. Trump is responsible for every death. There are hundreds of thousands dead because of Trump. Somehow, a substantial portion of the electorate bought into the nonsense. It’s a virus, and a highly infectious one at that. Trump did what he could, and in fact initially received praise from just about every Democratic governor in the country. If anyone is to blame for COVID, it’s China and the World Health Organization. But perhaps nothing better illustrates the ridiculousness of this claim than when Joe Biden, less than a week after taking office, explained, “There’s nothing we can do” about the virus. Well, I’ll be darned.

#8 – Teachers can’t go back to work, but everyone else can –

From virtually the very beginning of the pandemic, it was clear that school-aged children were far less susceptible to infection and severe symptoms, and probably not vectors of transmission. Statistically, kids are the least in danger. But while the rest of us were back working in stores or driving trucks, and subjecting ourselves to genuine risks, teachers’ unions across the country continued to push the narrative that it’s too dangerous for teachers and kids to return to school. Like every other industry, at-risk kids and teachers could have been allowed to stay at home while the rest went back to normal. Instead, we inexplicably kept schools closed, gave students a significantly inferior education, and took away opportunities for social interactions that will never come again.(Believe it could take as long as two years for certain students in certain places to catch up. This is speaking as someone with considerable online learning and distance learning management experience. - JS)

#7 – It was xenophobic for Trump to halt travel from China –

The media would prefer that we all forget their accusations, but we mustn’t. They called President Trump “xenophobe in chief” for his actions, and Nancy Pelosi went to San Francisco’s Chinatown in February to tell everyone how safe things were. Trump had suspended travel from China at the end of January, and in retrospect the only legitimate criticism you could make of Trump is that he waited too long. But to categorize his actions as xenophobic was absurd from the beginning. The virus came from China, and that’s a fact; and it’s not racist or xenophobic to point it out or to act accordingly.

If your policies don’t work, just call the other guy (who happens to be married to an immigrant) a xenophobe.

#6 – Fifteen days to slow the spread –

The idea itself isn’t absurd at all, and in fact it originated with the Trump White House. We didn’t know the trajectory of the disease in mid-March 2020 when the initiative began; we didn’t want to overwhelm hospitals, and we needed to “flatten the curve.” It took closer to 30 days to reach the goal, but we succeeded, and we achieved those objectives. There wasn’t a location in the country where COVID patients couldn’t access care, and we indeed flattened the curve. What’s absurd is that the approach has continued for almost 400 days now in some places. Many states such as Texas, Florida and Mississippi have been essentially back to normal for months, but other states (mostly of the Blue variety) can’t bear to let go of that power, as lockdowns and mask-mandates continue.

#5 – President Joe Biden: “Help is on the way” –

The claim came in December before he took office, and much of the rhetoric was focused on the economic impact on COVID, but Biden repeatedly made assertions that he would “fix” the federal government’s handling of COVID. By the time Biden was inaugurated, there were already one million vaccinations occurring each day, and one of his first promises was to achieve 100 million vaccinations in the first 100 days, which would have meant actually decreasing the trend graph for vaccines. Way to set the bar low, Joe. Essentially the only issue in which the Biden Administration has approached COVID differently from Trump is with their authoritarian fixation on masks. That’s it.

#4 – The response by The World Health Organization –

Prior to COVID, most Americans were only vaguely aware of the WHO and their efforts. If we heard, “The WHO,” we would immediately think of Roger Daltrey swinging his microphone and Pete Townshend smashing his guitar. Once we learned how they screwed the pooch with the early days of the pandemic, and of their coziness with China, everyone started paying attention. The virus likely originated at the lab in Wuhan – though probably unintentionally – and China thoroughly mishandled the initial infections. Once the virus began spreading, the WHO provided cover for the Chinese by downplaying the extent of the spread and China’s role in it. The organization which gets much of its funding from our tax dollars was in bed with China and covering up their incompetence. President Trump was absolutely correct in pulling our funding, and if Biden had an ounce of integrity he’d do the same thing.

#3 – Blue states did it better –

The media spent the first six months of the pandemic essentially engaging in journalistic copulation with Democratic governors like New York’s Andrew Cuomo, while simultaneously vilifying and openly rooting against Republican governors like Florida’s Ron DeSantis. DeSantis would “have blood on his hands” they told us, while concurrently paving the way for issuing an Emmy Award for Cuomo. In reality, the performances were the exact opposite of their narrative. Cuomo was dreadful in his handling of nursing homes in New York, and it was clear from the beginning he was covering up the results; a scandal which may eventually result in his removal from office. Meanwhile DeSantis was stellar in managing the virus in a state with the second oldest population in the country. The worst four states in the country for deaths-per-million are all blue states (#1 New Jersey, #2 New York, #3 Massachusetts, and #4 Rhode Island), and Florida is in the bottom half of that list and going lower. Democrats, unsurprisingly, were absolutely horrible in their handling of COVID, whereas Republicans did pretty well overall.

#2 – Get the vaccine, but keep doing all of the other stuff –

This is some of the most bizarre messaging we’ve ever seen. We were blessed with three miracles: the vaccines by Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J. All three are not only highly effective at stopping infections, with efficacies of between 75% and 94%, they’re almost 100% effective at preventing hospitalization and death in the unlikely scenario you are infected. So what did Biden and the Democrats do? They told everyone that even if you’re vaccinated you need to keep social distancing and keep wearing masks. Those communications begged the question: if I have to keep doing all that stuff, then why should I get the shots? None of it made any sense. If you get vaccinated: 1) it’s highly unlikely you’ll get infected, 2) you’re almost definitely not going to be hospitalized or die from it if you do, and 3) you will not be able to transmit the disease. In other words, if you get the vaccine you can go back to normal.(Nope, STILL not getting the shit. - JS)

Democratic Party propaganda, brought to you by their sycophants in the media

#1 – Wear two masks –

The beginning of the pandemic was chaotic, and it would have been understandable if Dr. Anthony Fauci had simply made a mistake when he told us we didn’t need masks. But it wasn’t a mistake. He lied to us and admitted doing so. Fauci justified his deceit by claiming concern that masks might not be available for health care professionals. Then Fauci decided to stop lying to us and told us to wear masks, but wouldn’t even follow his own directive. Fauci threw out the first pitch at the Washington Nationals opening game last year, and forget that he threw the ball like a little girl; which, if anything, is insulting to little girls. He was wearing a mask despite the nearest person being sixty feet away. He then proceeded to sit in the stands directly next to a friend, at which point he removed his mask. Then late last year Fauci decided that it would be.


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Hey, got my "Recall Newsom" sweatshirt today, should have "Recall Newsom" mask Monday.
 
But honestly, I really don't care if people take a questionable vaccine. It's their health that's on the line, not mine. My wish is that people were able to come to an informed decision based on weighing the risks of the vaccine versus the disease.
This.
If you weigh the risks (or lack thereof) of the virus and the risks and/or "social responsibility" of the vaccine, the choice is yours. If you're fat and old you should probably take the vaccine. If you're young and healthy you honestly don't need to get the vaccine.
Shit if you're fat and old and you want to risk COVID? Not my fucking problem.
If you're young and healthy and want to get the vaccine? Still not my fucking problem.

Just don't tell me what to do.
#6 – Fifteen days to slow the spread –
*Laughs in Georgia*
 
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