Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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So apparently Tom from Midnight's Edge, a lad who seems to be a decent bloke, is been cancelled by Mecharandom for the crime of saying that Anna that Star Wars girl isn't a kick arse artist. As someone who has backed Frog I do wonder why anyone would want to be associated with these drama queen clowns who endlessly embarrass him.

Hello. In the future, details are nice.

MechaRandom defends Anna "fixing" another artist's work because she's a "professional" and apparently a professional should be able to do that without criticism. Tom says a professional shouldn't do it anyway, just out of professional courtesy. This stirs up some drama as Tom says he and the WCBS crew have been distancing themselves from MechaRandom ever since she referred to Zack Snyder as "father of the year", which he thought was fucked up. He then leaves the stream and MechaRandom continues to run her mouth.

Thank you.

The channel in questions name is Midnight's Edge. It has a long ass history, but long story short, they get industry professionals who will come on their channel to to doing this so long. Tom is a recent addition, more a producer for Andre, the boss, and Robb, a broadcaster.

Tom is a member of the Gary Beekler wing of the Fandom Rejects. Cuckish and insisting how not a hate group they are all the time using human beings as props and generally making anyone right of Joe Biden socially feel like shit. Tom likely jumped at the chance for a bisexual deviant woman as a purse puppy. Mecha posted a video of the DMs, which shows Tom ranting about how Mecha 'abuses Tom' and about how Midnight's Edge can't associate with 'that', I'm assuming edgy jokes. I imagine he still happily sits on livestreams with Cecil and Ethan who make similar, edgy jokes.

I understand Tom's real objection. Despite Zach Snyder being a massive pussy that dunked on them, Snyder Bronies will autistically defend their cult leader to the death. Right now, ME is milking their despair over Warner Bros rejecting their edge lord messiah.

Tom meanwhile has treated this as a joke, despite coming off poorly in the DMs, in my opinion. Mecha comes off no better. She sounds like a drama whore looking for attention.

 

[Captain Manning]

So apparently Tom from Midnight's Edge, a lad who seems to be a decent bloke, is been cancelled by Mecharandom for the crime of saying that Anna that Star Wars girl isn't a kick arse artist. As someone who has backed Frog I do wonder why anyone would want to be associated with these drama queen clowns who endlessly embarrass him.

I like Midnight's Edge. Their Josh Trank Fantastic Four videos were great.

MechaRandom defends Anna "fixing" another artist's work because she's a "professional" and apparently a professional should be able to do that without criticism. Tom says a professional shouldn't do it anyway, just out of professional courtesy. This stirs up some drama as Tom says he and the WCBS crew have been distancing themselves from MechaRandom ever since she referred to Zack Snyder as "father of the year", which he thought was fucked up. He then leaves the stream and MechaRandom continues to run her mouth.

Oh wow.

This is pure cringe.

"AnNA is a PrOFEssIONaL ArTISt..."

Coincidentally, @VIkkiVerse was just saying the other night that she doesn't really follow Anna stuff. However THIS seems like pretty good fodder for D&V's next show. God damn.

 

[Newman's Own]

This is so stupid....

Anyone can analyze art. If Art is inalterable and immune from criticism than it is valueless. Mecha's point is dumb. Professional, not professional. Once you inject art into the public it takes on a life of its own growing beyond the creator.

While I'm happy to see the Fandom Rejects consume one another in Internet Autism, I can't believe what I'm listening to.

It's like some ass hole telling Kiwis they're missing the brilliance of Narzack's magnum opus "Four Hundred and Ninety Nine not Four Ninety Nine".

No, it's lazy trash that he'd join in running down if it was by Waid or say Kwanza.

I wonder if Narwhal could "draw a 22 page book in 2 hours".

 

[Captain Manning]

This is so stupid....

Anyone can analyze art. If Art is inalterable and immune from criticism than it is valueless. Mecha's point is dumb. Professional, not professional. Once you inject art into the public it takes on a life of its own growing beyond the creator.

Point #1

Anna is not a professional artist. She's a professional e-thot.

Point #2

You are correct that even if she were, it wouldn't really make an iota of difference. There's not separate rules for tumblrettes and non tumblrettes, and it's idiotic to see somebody... anybody... try to asspull some.

Based on what you said in your post above, Tom may or may not be a faggot. I dunno. But what Mecha said here was so fucking dumb, she deserves endless ridicule. If she weren't a chick, I would think she's thirsty like all the other fandom reject retards (unless she's a carpet muncher?).

 

[VIkkiVerse]

"So, are are you, are you trying to say, like, when an artist like Anna redraws somebody's artwork that it's basically like when the SJW's get upset and they, and they put too many clothes on something and they redraw it? Because she's an actual professional artist and not like a little tumblr..."

 

[Mecha]

The Ethot Professional Artist qualified to fix artwork unsolicited
Vs
The Chad 4 Hundred Ninety Nine

With this Mecharandom nonsense Im reminded of how much a reaction this thread had to what back then was considered bad or Controversial artwork.

499 is clearly worse. Congrats Zack. You took Anna's crown of being the worst crowdfunded piece of art and did it for 64pgs.

Anna somehow being qualified to fix art is a weird thing to argue. I can't imagine anyone singling out Anna for the task other than trying to worm their way into the inner circles of the FM.



Also what the fuck is her Youtube Channel? Is her response really that epic she had to describe it in the third person, without anyone else's endorsement?

 

[Captain Manning]

"So, are are you, are you trying to say, like, when an artist like Anna redraws somebody's artwork that it's basically like when the SJW's get upset and they, and they put too many clothes on something and they redraw it? Because she's an actual professional artist and not like a little tumblr..."
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You don't get it, Vikki!

She has enormous amount of professional talent! It's contained in her mammaries!

Christ. This is just like the time you went off on Martina. You can't even do long division! Shut up, you jealous old CUNT.

Anna somehow being qualified to fix art is a weird thing to argue. I can't imagine anyone singling out Anna for the task other than trying to worm their way into the inner circles of the FM.

Either everybody can do it, or nobody can. Her argument is dumb on its face, but the fact that she resorted to the ludicrous premise that Anna is a professional is just icing on the cake.

Mind you, Tom's argument is also kinda dumb. I am not sure I buy that "professionals" should absolutely abstain from modifying artwork. His main failing was not hammering her on the ludicrous premise she started with. I know several people here, and elsewhere, that would have had a lot of fun fucking with Mecha's diatribe if they were on that stream.

Tom committed misdemeanor retardation, and might have come across as a bit of a pussy, but Mecha's was a full on felony.

 

[NasserRabadi13]

liam's tree house burned down...
... and Smiller was inside

 

[No dignity]

MechaRandom defends Anna "fixing" another artist's work because she's a "professional" and apparently a professional should be able to do that without criticism. Tom says a professional shouldn't do it anyway, just out of professional courtesy. This stirs up some drama as Tom says he and the WCBS crew have been distancing themselves from MechaRandom ever since she referred to Zack Snyder as "father of the year", which he thought was fucked up. He then leaves the stream and MechaRandom continues to run her mouth.

This argument is just dumb. What gives a person the merit of being a "professional" in this standard? If it's the quality of their work, then that would mean guys like Narwhal are pros based on the glowing praise he's given for pumping out sketches. But as we've seen over the last few days opinions are pretty mixed on his work, so who's going to be the final judge on someone being a professional then? MechaRandom (literally who?) sounds retarded.

But at the end of the day who gives a shit if someone """fixes""" your drawing. Just ignore it lmao.

 

[COMMI3 MARK]

Lol Dan Slott. No, i dont think we will

 

[glib]

Exactly.

END. PETER. PARKER'S. STORY.

Come up with something else. There was a "getting there" for DECADES.

I don't know why endings are such an anathema to American comic books. "All good things..." and whatnot. It's not like people will stop buying PP era Spiderman shit just because the comic isn't published anymore. People buy all sorts of crap for old franchises they loved.

https://youtu.be/gDKqQPbXSzY

It's been suggested that comic writers have no fucking clue what to do when given a married couple to work with.

Which is weird, because I know some of them are married.

And while many comic readers might not be married, I'm sure some of them aspire to be.

Conflict drives stories.

 

[Mecha]

Either everybody can do it, or nobody can. Her argument is dumb on its face, but the fact that she resorted to the ludicrous premise that Anna is a professional is just icing on the cake.

She's actually got it backwards. Professional Artists should refrain from unsolicited critique if they are in the same field.

To put it in perspective, If you are in the same field and you're telling someone's potential customer their art is shit, it could potentially cost them sales. Which shouldn't be any part of Art critique. Artists are poor as it is, they shouldn't be making it harder on each other to earn a living.

I remember this question was posed to Mike S. Miller on why he didn't try to do some video's critiquing modern comics ala ya boi zack and he wouldn't do it. He's in the same creative space making comics and he expressed that it was rather taboo or in poor taste to critique another's art without solicitation. Which is where I first discovered the concept. This must have been when Mike First started his comics related channel and even before the first DnQ however.

Looking at @FROG 's Brutally Honest portfolio reviews he opened them with the disclaimer that he "Only going to do portfolios from adults with thick skin who are actually intending to get somewhere in this business" He also notes that the person who submitted the portfolio gave him permission to do the video. I think one of these guys in the Brutally Honest Portfolio Reviews ended up getting a book funded?

Even looking at Ya Boi Zack after he started making his own comics he's been hesitant to talk about indiecomics except in praise, and I can't think of a single video he's done on a competitor in comicsgate that was critical. It's a code of ethics or professionalism or something of that nature.

This is Completely foreign to the fandom menace. Since they don't produce anything besides clickbait videos, weird music videos or stuff that will likely result in a cease and desist as we saw during the launch of lady alchemy with the bounty hunter network guy.

Either everybody can do it, or nobody can.

So should Anna be fixing art? Is she trying to help the person in question? Did they ask for it? if the answer is no to either or both of those she shouldn't be "fixing" anything. Being a "Professional" means that Anna especially shouldn't be offering unsolicited critique.

J Scott Campbell didn't ask for NonBinaryFinn's critique, and NBF certainly wasn't trying to help, which is why he had every right to turn it around on the critic.

 

[Captain Manning]

This argument is just dumb. What gives a person the merit of being a "professional" in this standard? If it's the quality of their work, then that would mean guys like Narwhal are pros based on the glowing praise he's given for pumping out sketches. But as we've seen over the last few days opinions are pretty mixed on his work, so who's going to be the final judge on someone being a professional then?

I dunno. Merriam Webster?



Okay, YES... she's ostensibly done some art stuff for financial gain. That fucking Vampirella variant cover, for sure.

I sincerely doubt that is Anna's primary income source though. I rather think Anna's income comes from certain other "innate talents" which are on full display during her stream appearances. They are about chest high. I am not a professional technician just because I help my elderly neighbors with their electronic devices now and again, and they toss me a couple of bucks in thanks.

I know a lot of people here don't like @FROG, but he's way more of a professional than Anna simply because comic books are his fucking day job. Surely even his most ardent critics could agree with that.

 

[glib]

She's actually got it backwards. Professional Artists should refrain from unsolicited critique if they are in the same field.

To put it in perspective, If you are in the same field and you're telling someone's potential customer their art is shit, it could potentially cost them sales. Which shouldn't be any part of Art critique. Artists are poor as it is, they shouldn't be making it harder on each other to earn a living.

I remember this question was posed to Mike S. Miller on why he didn't try to do some video's critiquing modern comics ala ya boi zack and he wouldn't do it. He's in the same creative space making comics and he expressed that it was rather taboo or in poor taste to critique another's art without solicitation. Which is where I first discovered the concept. This must have been when Mike First started his comics related channel and even before the first DnQ however.

Looking at @FROG 's Brutally Honest portfolio reviews he opened them with the disclaimer that he "Only going to do portfolios from adults with thick skin who are actually intending to get somewhere in this business" He also notes that the person who submitted the portfolio gave him permission to do the video. I think one of these guys in the Brutally Honest Portfolio Reviews ended up getting a book funded?

Even looking at Ya Boi Zack after he started making his own comics he's been hesitant to talk about indiecomics except in praise, and I can't think of a single video he's done on a competitor in comicsgate that was critical. It's a code of ethics or professionalism or something of that nature.

This is Completely foreign to the fandom menace. Since they don't produce anything besides clickbait videos, weird music videos or stuff that will likely result in a cease and desist as we saw during the launch of lady alchemy with the bounty hunter network guy.


So should Anna be fixing art? Is she trying to help the person in question? Did they ask for it? if the answer is no to either or both of those she shouldn't be "fixing" anything. Being a "Professional" means that Anna especially shouldn't be offering unsolicited critique.

J Scott Campbell didn't ask for NonBinaryFinn's critique, and NBF certainly wasn't trying to help, which is why he had every right to turn it around on the critic.

"Fixing" art is a click-bait move for attention.
The issue is that theres a divide in the "community" and the constructive criticism becomes dunking on someone you don't like.
Cancel Culture and the Culture of Critique has ruined professionalism.
It's divide and conquer and the readers are the ones who suffer.

 

[Miniluv]

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Also what the fuck is her Youtube Channel? Is her response really that epic she had to describe it in the third person, without anyone else's endorsement?

She's an ugly dangerhair aping all the hallmarks of TFM outrage clickbait. Capitalizing negative words in video titles, bold colored angry text in the thumbnails, dumb faced selfies with the addition of her terrible pasty cleavage and the occasional riding crop to make desperate simps click even harder. Whatever takes the focus off her hammy ass arms, I guess.

TLDR - MechaRandom is fat and I would not have sex with her.

 

[Absurdity]

I always take time to click on these links and look at these campaigns to see what's out there and why there are so many projects that fail to fund. I used to think it was just failure to promote properly or maybe it was just the crowdfunded comics market being somewhat oversaturated. But no. The vast majority of them are just garbage.

Hexwood looks absolutely terrible and I can't understand for the life of me what made the creator of that book think people should or would pay $20 for it. In his last update, he says he wants to focus on building up his outreach and generating interest in his projects. That's all well and good, but it's not going to improve the way the book looks, even if the premise of the story is OK. Comics are visual. If the look doesn't grab you and make you want to spend $20, you're done.

I'm not trying to single Hexwood out, just commenting on it because it's the newest failure on the ever growing list of failures. There are plenty that are worthy of derision. Every time Smug posts these updates, I come back to the campaign for Everlasting Survivors for a nice laugh because not only is Jeff Hicks a subpar artist, the dialog is unintentionally hilarious:

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Looking at the quarter bin in any comics shop will tell you that indie comics have never been about the greatest art or stories, but even during the 80s and 90s the books were priced comparably to mainstream books. If you're asking for $15-$20 for a floppy, you better raise the quality bar above the bullshit level of most of these things.

That's not to say there aren't some interesting looking books that failed to fund. Columns of Creation looked pretty good and Evermatter has a nice Bruce Timm like quality to it. Maybe those would have benefited from more promotion, who knows? In any case, almost all these books are total shit and it's no wonder they don't get funded.

Very memeworthy!

 

[Captain Manning]

She's an ugly dangerhair aping all the hallmarks of TFM outrage clickbait. Capitalizing negative words in video titles, bold colored angry text in the thumbnails, dumb faced selfies with the addition of her terrible pasty cleavage and the occasional riding crop to make desperate simps click even harder. Whatever takes the focus off her hammy ass arms, I guess.

You forgot that she's fucking delusional.

If Exhibit A, in claiming that Anna is a professional, doesn't clinch it for you...

Well... here's Exhibit B:



"I look 15 years younger than Bree." (sic)

Source:

r/moviescirclejerk - Mecharandom42: a YouTube reactionary with no self-awareness whatsoever

108 votes and 34 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

She might actually be thread worthy.

 

[Unverified]

I'm not trying to single Hexwood out, just commenting on it because it's the newest failure on the ever growing list of failures. There are plenty that are worthy of derision. Every time Smug posts these updates, I come back to the campaign for Everlasting Survivors for a nice laugh because not only is Jeff Hicks a subpar artist, the dialog is unintentionally hilarious:

Yep, that reads a lot like your average CG book. Sub-high school level.

 

[Mecha]

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Lol Dan Slott. No, i dont think we will

They used to call him Slotto Blocktavius, if Graded Point 5 and Charlies are surprised that he's running a block bot I encourage them to catch up. This might have been noteworthy in 2017-2018 but its been years. This isn't new.

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone and frankly the mainstream industry pros are doing CG a favor by blocking them. They don't want your money, and they've given you a really easy way to find that out. Also lol at Charlie's being a female Immigrant with mixed parents. Identity politics are something CG is against I thought? Is she really broken up about not interacting with a mainstream comic pro? Especially this one?

ComicsGate is never going to grow up getting mad at Blocktavius and J Scott Campbell not liking them. CG is supposed to have evolved past that and there's enough titles, artists, and writers to stand on its own merits now. There's a real network of people calling itself CG at this point you don't need the mainstream.

Does anyone think Slotto Blocktavius is going to change his mind on Comicsgate at this point? Stop wasting your time.

 

[COMMI3 MARK]

CG is supposed to have evolved past that and there's enough titles, artists, and writers to stand on its own merits now. There's a real network of people calling itself CG at this point you don't need the mainstream.

Does anyone think Slotto Blocktavius is going to change his mind on Comicsgate at this point? Stop wasting your time.

I couldn't give a shit about him or any of the other pros who have me blocked (I probably deserved some of them for trolly reasons) but what I enjoyed about this interaction is that even Slotto Blocktavius in his safe space on the other side of his block wall has heard of our little clique.