General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Diya]

And resident lesbo, Sukoya Kana, takes 9 month break starting from June due to studying for some kind of an exam.

https://twitter.com/sukosuko_sukoya/status/1393228398252548102

Damn, the girl is going places. If I recalled correctly, she's like a medical admin of sort, right? Is she going for a full nurse certification now I wonder.
Can't say I know much about her beside the thirst clip with her lesbo "friend", but I do find her endearing and cool. Happy for her really.

 

[Avokado]

Got some news that I don't think was posted here yet.

Remember that chuba with the godly model that can do things with her toungue? She and her company is now in hot water, so to speak.

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Little background for the company ProPro: when they were still small, they had this chuba, Yumesaki Mia that was getting clipped by some Taiwanese subbers. She thanked them and said 'I love Taiwan' on stream which was posted on mainland forums that resulted in her getting spammed by chinks. Taiwanese fans, in turn, supported the chuba and the company.

Now with their second gen Koinoya Mai , the established fanbase plus the high quality model and overall cute factor had her getting 100k subs in a month. She was Chinese subbed by her Taiwanese fans as always, but some translated vids were posted in Bilibili and got to like 1M views or something. This prompted her or her company to propose the idea of expanding to Bilibili for streaming, which expectedly angered the existing fans.

Pic above was the announcement stream that has chat that was filled with mainlanders mocking taiwanese fans, existing fans turning into antis and EOPs that for some reason are trying to become saviors.

Tldr: Chuba translated clips by tw fans got million views on Bilibili. Chuba or company (still not know whose idea) thought expanding to Bilibili is a good idea, essentially alienating the existing fanbase that supported them from the beginning. Everything imploded.

Gonna try and gather more info and verification on this one, but thats the gist of it.

There are some updates on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/nc7xzp/so_koinoya_mai_announced_that_she_will_make_her/

 

[SeaVulture]

I've been doing some digging to check what the state of the awareness surrounding vtubers is like in Spain and it's interesting how far ahead Latin American countries are.

First, today someone posted on Reddit a superchat analysis of Coco's Duolingo streams. As you can see, her earnings in Mexican, Chilean and even Colombian pesos dwarf those in euros, even though the latter are used in many more countries than just Spain.

r/HoloStatistics - Coco Spanish Duolingo streams: Superchat revenue analysis

58 votes and 9 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

I'm sure timezones are responsible for some of the difference, considering the variation in her donations in yen across them, but it still shows that unlike with live streamers, Spaniards aren't yet that plugged in to this market. For further proof I looked for articles about vtubers on Spain's largest videogame websites:

La nueva arma de Xbox en Japón: youtubers virtuales para promocionar Xbox Game Pass

Nada como juegos y waifus para conquistar a los jugadores japoneses. Si esta es la primera vez que leéis el término 'VTuber', no os culpamos por ello. Los youtubers virtuales son...

www.3djuegos.com

¿Qué son los Vtubers? Un repaso a los ídolos virtuales de Youtube y el dinero que generan

Los VTubers o youtubers virtuales son avatares 3D que publican contenido. De origen japonés, se están convirtiendo en un fenómeno mundial que mueve millones.

www.businessinsider.es

Una VTuber pide a Atlus durante una hora y media que le permita retransmitir Persona 3

250.000 personas han visto el streaming de Mori Calliope, una VTuber inglesa, pidiendo a Atlus que le deje transmitir Persona 3 en directo. La compañía japonesa asegura no haberle prohibido nada.

vandal.elespanol.com

Vtubers, avatares virtuales que ganan miles de euros en donaciones en YouTube y que se han convertido en una industria en Japón

William Gibson, el creador del género 'ciberpunk', hizo aparecer en su 'Trilogía del Puente' a un personaje llamado Rei Toei, el avatar de una inteligencia...

www.genbeta.com

Esta streamer virtual con casi 700.000 suscriptores es en realidad una programadora con un traje de captura de movimiento de 30.000 dólares

Su nombre es Miko y es una de las streamers virtuales más populares de Twitch. Pero detrás se esconde "The Technician", pseudónimo de la programadora que da...

www.xataka.com

As you can see, in most cases both the articles and the comments are still in the "What even is this" phase and all of them are recent, from late 2020 up to earlier this month. But it shows that people are starting to pay attention, the only problem is that there really isn't a lot of local talent for Hololive or Nijisanji to poach. Spain's also a pretty big market for manga and anime, the big new releases get published at the same or a faster rate than in English and IMO it's ahead in the publishing of classics like Tezuka, Umezu and the gekiga and Year 24 shoujo authors. In Europe I'd say it's number 2 behind France, so I'm not considering this a barrier of entry.

 

[RiverBear]

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Gonna do meme review on her own then?
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That seems like Shinove, Holostars manager

EDIT:

Sora Birthday event with Kotone, Alice, AZKI and Aoi at 8 PM JST

 

[Avokado]

I wonder if this person clueless or something else

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/ncvysb/yt_algor_when_they_know_that_i/
probably not clueless

 

[Just a Basic Plebian]

I wonder if this person clueless or something else
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/ncvysb/yt_algor_when_they_know_that_i/
probably not clueless

happy birthday to our l-cup asmr knight though

 

[Rednax Kyuu]

I've been doing some digging to check what the state of the awareness surrounding vtubers is like in Spain and it's interesting how far ahead Latin American countries are.

First, today someone posted on Reddit a superchat analysis of Coco's Duolingo streams. As you can see, her earnings in Mexican, Chilean and even Colombian pesos dwarf those in euros, even though the latter are used in many more countries than just Spain.

r/HoloStatistics - Coco Spanish Duolingo streams: Superchat revenue analysis

58 votes and 9 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

I'm sure timezones are responsible for some of the difference, considering the variation in her donations in yen across them, but it still shows that unlike with live streamers, Spaniards aren't yet that plugged in to this market. For further proof I looked for articles about vtubers on Spain's largest videogame websites:

La nueva arma de Xbox en Japón: youtubers virtuales para promocionar Xbox Game Pass

Nada como juegos y waifus para conquistar a los jugadores japoneses. Si esta es la primera vez que leéis el término 'VTuber', no os culpamos por ello. Los youtubers virtuales son...

www.3djuegos.com

¿Qué son los Vtubers? Un repaso a los ídolos virtuales de Youtube y el dinero que generan

Los VTubers o youtubers virtuales son avatares 3D que publican contenido. De origen japonés, se están convirtiendo en un fenómeno mundial que mueve millones.

www.businessinsider.es

Una VTuber pide a Atlus durante una hora y media que le permita retransmitir Persona 3

250.000 personas han visto el streaming de Mori Calliope, una VTuber inglesa, pidiendo a Atlus que le deje transmitir Persona 3 en directo. La compañía japonesa asegura no haberle prohibido nada.

vandal.elespanol.com

Vtubers, avatares virtuales que ganan miles de euros en donaciones en YouTube y que se han convertido en una industria en Japón

William Gibson, el creador del género 'ciberpunk', hizo aparecer en su 'Trilogía del Puente' a un personaje llamado Rei Toei, el avatar de una inteligencia...

www.genbeta.com

Esta streamer virtual con casi 700.000 suscriptores es en realidad una programadora con un traje de captura de movimiento de 30.000 dólares

Su nombre es Miko y es una de las streamers virtuales más populares de Twitch. Pero detrás se esconde "The Technician", pseudónimo de la programadora que da...

www.xataka.com

As you can see, in most cases both the articles and the comments are still in the "What even is this" phase and all of them are recent, from late 2020 up to earlier this month. But it shows that people are starting to pay attention, the only problem is that there really isn't a lot of local talent for Hololive or Nijisanji to poach. Spain's also a pretty big market for manga and anime, the big new releases get published at the same or a faster rate than in English and IMO it's ahead in the publishing of classics like Tezuka, Umezu and the gekiga and Year 24 shoujo authors. In Europe I'd say it's number 2 behind France, so I'm not considering this a barrier of entry.

Spanish speakers always lag behind what internet culture is concerned: new trends, challenges, memes, they all arrive late but they do arrive at some point (why tf is arrive written with two r's).
So it will be no surprise that Vtubers will become mainstream in the spanish community as well. It's just a matter of when.
The big push will come either from a couple of the current spanish Vtubers becoming somewhat famous or a known company releasing ES spanish talent one day. Dunno which one is more likely, here's a case study of whats currently available, a little dated tho (Sep 2020)

As mentioned before there are huge Spanish internet personalities out there with millions of followers. The thing about Vtubing is that you have to start from 0 because of the ''I am digital" factor.

Oh and my personal take on the current spanish talent: not bad at all actually, some are witty, endearing and non-retarded which is a great start. I think finding decent talent won't be a problem but making them known will be the biggest hurdle.

PS: Happy Birthday Sora-chan!

 

[ClownShoes]

Gonna do meme review on her own then?
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Looks like she’s got her “boyfriend” on. I guess she’s going to use voice lines from the game.
Honestly her “solo” meme reviews are kind of fun every once in a while. She doesn’t have to pander to the guest and she can get a better variety

 

[Just a Basic Plebian]

K-Cup Takoppaiyakis wtf

 

[Sound]

One thing to keep in mind is that Hololive doesn't just look at previous vtubers when recruiting, iirc most talents do not have a vtuber background. As long as there is a pool of reasonably talented spanish speaking weeb singers/artists/personalities/japanese speakers auditioning, they can convert them into vtubers and kinda create an ES vtubing market from scratch if they play their cards right, like they did with EN.

 

[Style]

[...]still shows that unlike with live streamers, Spaniards aren't yet that plugged in to this market. For further proof I looked for articles about vtubers on Spain's largest videogame websites:

As you can see, in most cases both the articles and the comments are still in the "What even is this" phase and all of them are recent, from late 2020 up to earlier this month. But it shows that people are starting to pay attention

TBF videogames audience in Spain isn't usually weeb, so that reaction is to be expected. Ramenparados is where the weebs gather (and koinya and Deculture back in the day, miss those two). Not sure if there's more.

 

[Diya]

Big yab from Coco. She try to show off the golden youtube plate thing and accidentally show her hand. Wouldn't be bad, if the hand isn't so easily identifiable.

 

[augment]

I've been doing some digging to check what the state of the awareness surrounding vtubers is like in Spain and it's interesting how far ahead Latin American countries are.

As you can see, in most cases both the articles and the comments are still in the "What even is this" phase and all of them are recent, from late 2020 up to earlier this month. But it shows that people are starting to pay attention, the only problem is that there really isn't a lot of local talent for Hololive or Nijisanji to poach. Spain's also a pretty big market for manga and anime, the big new releases get published at the same or a faster rate than in English and IMO it's ahead in the publishing of classics like Tezuka, Umezu and the gekiga and Year 24 shoujo authors. In Europe I'd say it's number 2 behind France, so I'm not considering this a barrier of entry.

Does this mean that, if HoloES becomes something, it most likely be composed of mexican and/or US-based latinos. I know from experience latinos are based but I think mexicans have been somewhat been soyfied through US influence.

 

[Scuttle]

Big yab from Coco. She try to show off the golden youtube plate thing and accidentally show her hand. Wouldn't be bad, if the hand isn't so easily identifiable.

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I mean to be fair her hand is only identifiable to people who watch KSON and at that point you have to be a special kind of retard to not put 2+2 together.

 

[Avokado]

Update on MyHoloTV from Reddit

Then I found this old news, just in time with HoloES topic

 

[Cubanodun]

I know from experience latinos are based but I think mexicans have been somewhat been soyfied through US influence.

US Whitexicans have tendencies to get into the soy culture, original mexicans believe whitexicans are faggots and that the trannies should be minecrafted from orbit making them incompatible

, here's a case study of whats currently available, a little dated tho (Sep 2020)

Nimu is there, wonder how she is doing after pulling a Roa and getting blasted to hell and back

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K-Cup Takoppaiyakis wtf

Japan is really missing selling merch with the K size joke about her, wasted merchadising potential

Manami got her 3D. She had been at it for two years. Peculiar thing is that I'd say she is another proof that booba sometimes isn't the easiest way to get subs.

Finally Itou life daughter get the recognition she deserved, i started following her when she played Xenogears

Edit: Ollie made TT on Indonesia by having a legendary fight against 2 cockroaches, killed 1 but the other is on the loose because it flies

 

[Str8Bustah]

I've been doing some digging to check what the state of the awareness surrounding vtubers is like in Spain and it's interesting how far ahead Latin American countries are.

unsurprising tbh, spics have always been one of the biggest weeaboo hordes on the planet ever since the days of Siant Seiya, of course they'd have jumped on the VTuber train long before the spaniards, and they'll probably stay on it the longest too.

 

[Thomas Talus]

Mio already putting those full SE permissions to work with TWEWY.

 

[ice_cream_cone]

So in todays member stream, Kiara mentioned that she got permissions to maybe collab with vshojo and also Coco.

I have mixed feelings.

EDIT: Yes, at her rebroadcast. She was there typing in chat and talking in the mic. She also apologized for saying the n word. Apparently some people were mad?

EDIT 2: fixed the confusing wording. She already got the permission.

 

[Tatsunoko]

So in todays member stream, Kiara mentioned getting permissions to maybe collab with vshojo and also Coco.

I have mixed feelings.

During the rebroadcasting of her Karaoke? And it's incredibly lame that they need "permission" to collab with Coco.