The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

Zero Day Defense said:
How is DNA going to be irrelevant if it's because of said DNA that said cell collections are arraying themselves the way that they are?
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Because the mechanisms by which cells array themselves to make a person are not what gives the concept of personhood any value.

People are deserving of rights not because they are governed by DNA on the molecular level, but because they possess the ability to consciously appreciate and exercise those rights. It is our conscious experience which ultimately defines us as people, which is precisely how we can understand that identical twins are two separate people: each has a unique identity and experience from the other.

This is a self-evident truth that you appear to be trying to explain away with nominalism, and I think you're wasting your time.
 
Dyn said:
Feminists have nothing to do with it, the government is just afraid they'll have to spend more money on welfare if they can't force unwilling fathers to do it for them. If abortions cost the government money you can bet they'd be illegal as fuck.
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There are lots of things that cost governments money that aren't illegal. Welfare itself for example. Or if you want a more left-leaning example, tax exempt status of religious institutions.

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Different thought:

Feminists have nothing to do with abortion?
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
No punchline, it's entertaining. You were such a spaz that you got banned
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Generally speaking if someone gets banned it's because someone they made mad was being a spaz and called a janny. You hit the report button, you're the spaz.
Hellbound Hellhound said:
I don't support the death penalty, but I do recognize the right to self-defense, and in such circumstances, it is pretty clear to me that one's right to bodily integrity comes before another person's right to life when the two are forced to come into conflict. I see no reason why abortion should be an exception.
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Because your baby is not a complete stranger who walked up to you and just randomly jumped into your body. You put him there, he has no choice but to be there, and he's your child. You can't cite self defense against someone who isn't attacking you, who is only doing what you made them do. Also, it's your fucking child, you have a duty to it.
Hellbound Hellhound said:
People are deserving of rights not because they are governed by DNA on the molecular level, but because they possess the ability to consciously appreciate and exercise those rights. It is our conscious experience which ultimately defines us as people, which is precisely how we can understand that identical twins are two separate people: each has a unique identity and experience from the other.
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Hunt for the word "consciousness" in the declaration of independence, in Locke, in any text originating the philosophies of Natural Rights. You will not find it. Human rights are bestowed by virtue of Humanity, not by virtue of consciousness. You have rights when you are sleeping. You have rights when you are in a coma. You have rights when you are a fetus. You even have rights when you are a corpse. If you exist in any capacity at all and you are human, you have rights.
Hellbound Hellhound said:
A human being is a person
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This literally doesn't mean anything. It's like a dictionary definition where it just tells you a synonym.
Marshal Mannerheim said:
Even if that was true, not all abortions take place to save the woman's life.
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Essentially no abortions are to save the mother's life. Essentially all abortions are elective procedures with no justification other than "i dont want it, kill it."
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FEETLOAF said:
Generally speaking if someone gets banned it's because someone they made mad was being a spaz and called a janny. You hit the report button, you're the spaz.
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I didn't report you, retard. You got banned for tardraging at Null.

I know you have severe autism, which makes social interactions hard, but try not being so autistic
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
I am just saying why I care when people make socks. Unless you were banned, makign a sock is a pussy move
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What you're doing is what you've done dozens of times in this thread so far. When someone says something you can't come up with a response to, you say something that will cause 2 pages of retardation so that people forget the point you couldn't respond to.
 
FEETLOAF said:
What you're doing is what you've done dozens of times in this thread so far. When someone says something you can't come up with a response to, you say something that will cause 2 pages of retardation so that people forget the point you couldn't respond to.
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Nah, I was just asking who his main account was since he claimed to know my A&N posting history (although he was completely wrong in it). Posting from a sock is a pussy move. You asked why I cared he was a sock, so I told you why, and your diseased brain made you sperg out about that.

And at least I don't make up my own definitions of words because I have debilitating autism like you do.
 
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FEETLOAF said:
Make a thread with a poll, no balls.
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Why? Do you care that much that your spaztic brain makes people here hate you? Null even banned your ass for being such a retard once.

BTW, I recommend behavioral therapy. I feel real bad for any therapist that had to work with you, but it'd make you functional in the real world and you'd be able to hold down a job possibly and contribute to society
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
Why? Do you care that much that your spaztic brain makes people here hate you? Null even banned your ass for being such a retard once.

BTW, I recommend behavioral therapy. I feel real bad for any therapist that had to work with you, but it'd make you functional in the real world and you'd be able to hold down a job possibly and contribute to society
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Cope and seethe baby murderer
 
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