Lolcow Leonard F. Shaner II - Discussion Edition and Now With Less Autism (see the OP)

[onionman]

I'm @Flxible and I'm not Hy or anyone listed in this or the main thread.

Given that Hy's a lawyer, it's probably important for you all and the mods to know that you have your guess wrong so I made the effort to cloak a bit and create this second account.

The post which said my IP matched Shaner's was also just plain wrong (as was later proved by the mods/admins post and the subsequent guess about Hy based on geography).

The IP trace to Chester Springs is correct but it is not Hy's. It's a coincidence that Hy lives in the same general locale.

For the record, I am not any of the people involved and my opinions and posts were/are mine alone.

So I'll go back to lurking and leave you all be.

 

[CatParty]

I'm @Flxible and I'm not Hy or anyone listed in this or the main thread.

Given that Hy's a lawyer, it's probably important for you all and the mods to know that you have your guess wrong so I made the effort to cloak a bit and create this second account.

The post which said my IP matched Shaner's was also just plain wrong (as was later proved by the mods/admins post and the subsequent guess about Hy based on geography).

The IP trace to Chester Springs is correct but it is not Hy's. It's a coincidence that Hy lives in the same general locale.

For the record, I am not any of the people involved and my opinions and posts were/are mine alone.

So I'll go back to lurking and leave you all be.

you will be banned for making an alt account

 

[Chaosbandit]

I'm @Flxible and I'm not Hy or anyone listed in this or the main thread.

Given that Hy's a lawyer, it's probably important for you all and the mods to know that you have your guess wrong so I made the effort to cloak a bit and create this second account.

The post which said my IP matched Shaner's was also just plain wrong (as was later proved by the mods/admins post and the subsequent guess about Hy based on geography).

The IP trace to Chester Springs is correct but it is not Hy's. It's a coincidence that Hy lives in the same general locale.

For the record, I am not any of the people involved and my opinions and posts were/are mine alone.

So I'll go back to lurking and leave you all be.

This sock isn't as funny as the other ones...

 

[Kiwi Koala]

Alas, I don't have as much time to play today. That said, some parting advice prior to your likely banning. Up your game, if you're a True and Honest sociology student, then if you lay down some some weak arguments like last time in your dissertation, you're gonna be torn to shreds. That said, this isn't about you, there's a whole section where you can likely go to discuss this board, and its merits, or lack thereof, if you so choose.

 

[GREEDY FIREMAN]

Given that Hy's a lawyer, it's probably important for you all and the mods to know that you have your guess wrong so I made the effort to cloak a bit and create this second account.

Why is this so important?

 

[Kiwi Koala]

Why is this so important?

Doesn't want to be seen as badgering, or instigating, when Hy brings down the wraith of god on the kiwis. You know, for our, apparent, connection to terrorist groups, the massive conspiracy, the fact that we have a judge and officers of the law in our pockets, or that we're diabolical masterminds, stroking cats and planning world domination, etc.

 

[Goofy Logic]

I'm @Flxible and I'm not Hy or anyone listed in this or the main thread.

Given that Hy's a lawyer, it's probably important for you all and the mods to know that you have your guess wrong so I made the effort to cloak a bit and create this second account.

The post which said my IP matched Shaner's was also just plain wrong (as was later proved by the mods/admins post and the subsequent guess about Hy based on geography).

The IP trace to Chester Springs is correct but it is not Hy's. It's a coincidence that Hy lives in the same general locale.

For the record, I am not any of the people involved and my opinions and posts were/are mine alone.

So I'll go back to lurking and leave you all be.

You sure seem stuck up on these two threads, and is still suspicious.

If you are truly not part of the trio, go PM your powerlevel to a moderator and he can set the record straight.

 

[Kiwi Koala]

I see three possibilities, assuming the information given is true. From most, to least likely:

They're someone working with Hy, or that he knows, doing info gathering.

They're someone who has, or is, working with Len, from the area. They might mean well, but lack the full story. They're likely working in a professional/semi-pro capacity.

They're someone who is from the area. Part cool guy, part white knight.

I do relish some sanity coming from Len, and/or his supporters, but it doesn't make for good comedy, that's for sure. I originally posted this to @Rin, in response to the original poster's profile, but it was too long, and I felt it needed to be said. TL: DR version, no laughs, nothing to see here folks.

 

[GS 281]

I wish I could get paid to survey this website full-time and create doctored reports for HyLen.

 

[manuhiri]

I see three possibilities, assuming the information given is true. From most, to least likely:

They're someone working with Hy, or that he knows, doing info gathering.

They're someone who has, or is, working with Len, from the area. They might mean well, but lack the full story. They're likely working in a professional/semi-pro capacity.

They're someone who is from the area. Part cool guy, part white knight.

I do relish some sanity coming from Len, and/or his supporters, but it doesn't make for good comedy, that's for sure. I originally posted this to @Rin, in response to the original poster's profile, but it was too long, and I felt it needed to be said. TL: DR version, no laughs, nothing to see here folks.

I suspect that you all are overcomplicating the analyses of @Flxible / @onionman identity. If you look back at the original postings and q and a, consider: parent or family member of child with autism hears about Colebrookdale's autism train that was scheduled for August 14th (but then cancelled) and who was researching a trip there. Google for Colebrookdale and autism leads to Len's Facebook page hating on Colebrookdale and kiwifarms.net which leads to the Shaner threads. When confronted with @Zim 's first page and the quote: "We're all familiar with autism. It's half the attraction of this forum. However, there's a place where autism is rampant and that's trains. Rail fans, a.k.a. foamers, can be some of the most autistic and horrible people you can meet." said person dives into the thread and possibly searches Colebrookdale in the thread. Finds out from the thread that one of the Colebrookdale volunteers has doxed himself here as @Pocket_Sand! and decides to wade into the thread. No relation to anyone involved except possibly interested in a trip on a Colebrookdale train with an autistic kid.

 

[Kiwi Koala]

That's a very valid point. However, if that was the case, why make three accounts regarding the fact? I say three, only under the assumption that you're another one. Why use the line, "Asked and answered" in regards to a question, especially when it was known we were discussing a lawyer. Why not simply say what you just said.

That's a whole lot of pages to wade through, even hitting ctrl f, and searching for Colebrookdale, considering PS didn't out themselves for well over a month, and almost 600 pages.

Now, what you're saying isn't impossible. As a matter of fact it might even have been the case, if you're the individual question then you're welcome to enlighten us. That said, we generally apply Occam's Razor here, and when someone shows up from the same area as a lawyer that called this place out in an open court of law, and on facebook (allegedly) that seemed the most likely scenario at the time.

 

[Frank Rizzo]

I suspect that you all are overcomplicating the analyses of @Flxible / @onionman identity. If you look back at the original postings and q and a, consider: parent or family member of child with autism hears about Colebrookdale's autism train that was scheduled for August 14th (but then cancelled) and who was researching a trip there. Google for Colebrookdale and autism leads to Len's Facebook page hating on Colebrookdale and kiwifarms.net which leads to the Shaner threads. When confronted with @Zim 's first page and the quote: "We're all familiar with autism. It's half the attraction of this forum. However, there's a place where autism is rampant and that's trains. Rail fans, a.k.a. foamers, can be some of the most autistic and horrible people you can meet." said person dives into the thread and possibly searches Colebrookdale in the thread. Finds out from the thread that one of the Colebrookdale volunteers has doxed himself here as @Pocket_Sand! and decides to wade into the thread. No relation to anyone involved except possibly interested in a trip on a Colebrookdale train with an autistic kid.

I love the irony seeping out of this post...

 

[Kiwi Koala]

Let's say, best case scenario, that your version of events are true. What you should take away from all of this is, almost none of us, PS included, has a disdain for people with developmental disabilities. Just because someone is different, has issues fitting in socially, or has a mental illness or developmental disability doesn't mean they're a lolcow. Heck, just about everyone here has at least some social issues, look at us, and the laws of the land are pretty clear cut when it comes to making fun of someone based solely on that one facet of their being, or taking things too far, or becoming angry.

What we do here is chronicle, and laugh at, the eccentric (sometimes with them, sometimes at them), and call out hypocrisy and bullshit when we see it. Are we good people? No, but we're also not a terrorist organization, a conspiracy, and, for the most part, not a hate group.

 

[Frank Rizzo]

Manuhiri says: "U GUIZE ARE TOTES OVERCOMPLICATING THIS!"

Manuhiri proceeds to write overly elaborate, complicated way in which Flxible/onionman discovers forum thread.

 

[Kiwi Koala]

My question is, how many random people from Pennsylvania, not extensively into art, would be interested in, and know Maori deities? I had to look up the translation on the screen name, but I should note, I've been studying religion, the occult, etc. for almost 2 decades at this point. Now, for those that don't know, the Maori are the peoples of New Zealand.

 

[manuhiri]

That's a very valid point. However, if that was the case, why make three accounts regarding the fact? I say three, only under the assumption that you're another one. Why use the line, "Asked and answered" in regards to a question, especially when it was known we were discussing a lawyer. Why not simply say what you just said.

That's a whole lot of pages to wade through, even hitting ctrl f, and searching for Colebrookdale, considering PS didn't out themselves for well over a month, and almost 600 pages.

Now, what you're saying isn't impossible. As a matter of fact it might even have been the case, if you're the individual question then you're welcome to enlighten us. That said, we generally apply Occam's Razor here, and when someone shows up from the same area as a lawyer that called this place out in an open court of law, and on facebook (allegedly) that seemed the most likely scenario at the time.

Well the creation of a second account could have had to do with the speed at which we banned the first one. I'm not the third, your assumption there is false. As far as the short retorts, although lawyerly in language, maybe they were just angry and short given what they were seeing. Search answers your second paragraph. Guessing that any further enlightenment from two banned accounts is unlikely at this stage. And while your scenarios are likely, the one I'm postulating is just as likely.

 

[Kiwi Koala]

I disagree that it's just as likely. It may be possible, but someone who has made contact will always be the more likely culprit than someone who hasn't.

P.S. if I'm wrong about your identity, I'll gladly eat some crow. I also enjoy the screen name, regardless.

 

[Frank Rizzo]

Well the creation of a second account could have had to do with the speed at which we banned the first one. I'm not the third, your assumption there is false. As far as the short retorts, although lawyerly in language, maybe they were just angry and short given what they were seeing. Search answers your second paragraph. Guessing that any further enlightenment from two banned accounts is unlikely at this stage. And while your scenarios are likely, the one I'm postulating is just as likely.

I'll pose the same question to you as I did to Flxible.

What exactly are you trying to gain out of this? You're apparently some person in New Zealand, why do you care?

 

[Rin]

Well the creation of a second account could have had to do with the speed at which we banned the first one. I'm not the third, your assumption there is false. As far as the short retorts, although lawyerly in language, maybe they were just angry and short given what they were seeing. Search answers your second paragraph. Guessing that any further enlightenment from two banned accounts is unlikely at this stage. And while your scenarios are likely, the one I'm postulating is just as likely.

Does it really matter even if we did misidentify them?

 

[AnOminous]

I suspect that you all are overcomplicating the analyses of @Flxible / @onionman identity. If you look back at the original postings and q and a, consider: parent or family member of child with autism hears about Colebrookdale's autism train that was scheduled for August 14th (but then cancelled) and who was researching a trip there. Google for Colebrookdale and autism leads to Len's Facebook page hating on Colebrookdale and kiwifarms.net which leads to the Shaner threads. When confronted with @Zim 's first page and the quote: "We're all familiar with autism. It's half the attraction of this forum. However, there's a place where autism is rampant and that's trains. Rail fans, a.k.a. foamers, can be some of the most autistic and horrible people you can meet." said person dives into the thread and possibly searches Colebrookdale in the thread. Finds out from the thread that one of the Colebrookdale volunteers has doxed himself here as @Pocket_Sand! and decides to wade into the thread. No relation to anyone involved except possibly interested in a trip on a Colebrookdale train with an autistic kid.

And he just happened to also have an apparent boner for Hy Mayerson, wanted to warn us about how wonderful Hy Mayerson is, and concluded his posts with a legal disclaimer.

Sure.